00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2024-11-23 00:00 UTC: Games: 1414, Asc: 8, Scum: 1166. 1272824 turns, 27086873 points. 14d 21:20 gametime. (43%Wiz), (56%Hum), (50%Cha), (53%Mal), 7d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 -!- Azoxey has quit [Quit: client quit] 00:00 [US] ChongLi (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:58670 00:01 -!- Furey85 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:02 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:03 [US] [D]: PigInZen (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3007 points, 3347 turns, killed by a giant spider 00:03 [US] elron (Arc Dwa Fem Law) removed ais523's blessed +1 orange dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:11242 00:06 [US] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:3728 00:08 <@recuerdo> bathroom goofiness: one of my canadian friends thinks "bathroom" is too vulgar, so prefers "washroom," until once, when traveling abroad, she asked for a washroom and was presented with a room that had a sink and... that's it. 00:09 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4801 points, 3388 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 00:10 [US] eitbrad (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse", on T:39092 00:10 it is funny when euphemisms require euphemisms, because they simply aren't euphemisms anymore 00:10 [US] [D]: allanb (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1378 points, 7480 turns, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food 00:10 and your friend is right, right? 00:11 like, the dog can "go to the bathroom" on the rug, or whatever 00:12 <@recuerdo> unfortunately, yes 😉 00:12 [EU] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:43917 00:12 [US] eitbrad (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:39110 00:14 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 13346 points, 9527 turns, killed by an invisible nalfeshnee 00:14 nooo 00:14 <@recuerdo> oooooooh 00:14 <@recuerdo> I was wondering what that was 00:14 oh man 00:15 <@recuerdo> oh well, it's THE WEEKEND so I can try for a good one 00:15 [EU] [D]: Haudegen (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2386 points, 3327 turns, killed by an Elvenking 00:15 to be fair, you died to one of the few monsters that is occasionally dangerous even in Gehennom 00:15 [US] [A]: eitbrad (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1989064 points, 39137 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbrad/tnnt/dumplog/1731987590.tnnt.html 00:19 gg 00:19 congrats, eitbrad 00:20 "You caitiff! You hit bleeko the Champion with the cockatrice corpse. Bleeko the Champion is slowing down." 00:20 "Bleeko the Champion quaffs a potion. Bleeko the Champion has a very bad case of stomach acid. Bleeko the Champion seems limber! Bleeko the Champion zaps herself with a wand of speed monster! Bleeko the Champion is suddenly moving faster." 00:20 "You caitiff! You hit bleeko the Champion with the cockatrice corpse. Bleeko the Champion is slowing down. Bleeko the Champion turns to stone." 00:21 relentless 00:22 $lastgame recuerdo 00:22 tinklebear: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/recuerdo/tnnt/dumplog/1732308182.tnnt.html 00:22 !oAcid to cure stoning, don't see that often, probably even less often when it's a monster 00:22 apparently monsters pick up globs of green slime in case they need to cure stoning, but are generally too scared to actually use them (unless they're immune) 00:23 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 357 points, 1363 turns, killed by a giant mimic 00:24 <@recuerdo> OH that explains it 00:24 <@recuerdo> What do you want to use or apply? [abknprHOQRV-Y or ?*] 00:24 <@recuerdo> You produce a strange whistling sound. 00:24 <@recuerdo> A nalfeshnee appears in a cloud of smoke! 00:24 <@recuerdo> It hits! 00:24 <@recuerdo> It hits! 00:24 <@recuerdo> It bites! 00:25 <@recuerdo> Something casts a spell at you! 00:25 <@recuerdo> Your helm turns to dust and is blown away! 00:25 <@recuerdo> You hit it. 00:25 <@recuerdo> The nalfeshnee hits! 00:25 <@recuerdo> The nalfeshnee hits! 00:25 <@recuerdo> The nalfeshnee bites! 00:25 <@recuerdo> The nalfeshnee casts a spell! 00:25 <@recuerdo> The nalfeshnee suddenly disappears! 00:25 <@recuerdo> It hits! 00:25 <@recuerdo> It hits! 00:25 <@recuerdo> It bites! 00:25 <@recuerdo> You kill it! 00:25 <@recuerdo> I thought I had killed the nalfeshnee; I didn't realize there were two 00:25 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:38705 00:26 [US] recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered Skinderelly, his faithful pony, on T:143 00:26 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 90 points, 175 turns, killed by a sewer rat 00:27 woah. what happened that time? 00:27 <@recuerdo> don't worry skinderelly I didn't outlive you 😭 00:27 <@recuerdo> I killed Skinderelly trying to untrap her from a bear trap + then I got bear trapped :(((( 00:27 oh, those traps. 00:27 <@recuerdo> alternately: I just got home and I'm not playing as careful as I should lolllllll 00:27 lol 00:27 [US] [D]: ChongLi (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1099002 points, 59545 turns, killed by a touch of death (with the Amulet) 00:29 monster picking up slime: "You never know. I might turn into a salamander!" 00:29 -!- jientho has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:30 [US] a1 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:31105 00:31 to be fair, in the NetHack universe, stoning is probably a preferable death to sliming – maybe a friend can come and stone-to-flesh you later 00:33 [US] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8029 00:34 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38957 00:34 $lastgame ChongLi 00:34 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/C/ChongLi/tnnt/dumplog/1730906410.tnnt.html 00:35 -!- Stumpfenstiel has joined #tnnt 00:36 ouch. they had MR cloak, too. but were wearing the robe instead 00:37 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:39308 00:38 The game was wishless though, which explains the robe 00:38 how so, Arseniy? 00:38 nothing to recharge wand of death with 00:39 relied on fingering rodney instead, but then missed twice 00:39 [US] [D]: nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 43794 points, 9135 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 00:39 ah F 00:39 drank a potion hoping it was some sort of healing 00:39 ... it was paralysis 00:40 thanks for explaining, Arseniy. interesting 00:40 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 552 points, 2034 turns, killed by a kobold lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:44 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39907 00:44 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39908 00:44 they nearly shot themselves: "The death ray whizzes by you!" 00:44 [US] [D]: spleen (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3213 points, 3860 turns, killed by a quasit 00:44 I am surprised at how often rays miss me when I don't have reflection 00:44 [US] haldisse (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20701 00:44 a disint ray missed me in a recent game – I forget whether or not I had disint res at the time 00:45 I had enough armor to survive, but rebuilding could have been awkward 00:45 excitement and adventure 00:47 I should look up how hit chance works for wands and the like, at some point 00:51 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:30706 00:52 [US] elron (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed recuerdo's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:17150 00:53 tinklebear: (backscroll) I'm still coming for you! Just at continental drift pace ATM 00:54 -!- Stumpfenstiel has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 00:55 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 642 points, 2241 turns, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 00:55 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 751 points, 2823 turns, killed by an imp 00:55 -!- Stumpfenstiel has joined #tnnt 00:55 -!- Stumpfenstiel has quit [Changing host] 00:55 -!- Stumpfenstiel has joined #tnnt 00:56 lol, Bleeko. it was eitbrad who double-tapped you with the chicken 00:57 i can't take credit for that 00:59 [US] OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a rothe corpse on an altar of Raijin, on T:13073 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2024-11-23 01:00 UTC: Games: 17, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 147401 turns, 3162388 points. (53%Kni), 7d 22:59 remaining. 01:00 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:40441 01:00 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 01:02 [EU] Furey (Ran Orc Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:43053 01:04 -!- Grassy has joined #tnnt 01:06 [US] elron (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:18430 01:06 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:07 [EU] Furey (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed scheijan the Warrior in a deathmatch, on T:43155 01:07 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:32001 01:08 [US] [D]: eitbrad (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 704 points, 926 turns, killed by a gnome 01:08 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:09 Whew, got a CoMR in the arena. That was a major vulnerability. 01:10 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32392 01:10 you went into the arena *before* you had MR, Furey? 01:10 yup. 01:10 That's pretty ballsy 01:10 probably had reflection? 01:10 yes, reflection. 01:10 still, wow 01:10 they aren't golden nagas. 01:11 NPC won't spellcast 01:11 yea, true 01:11 [US] charlie14690 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:35001 01:12 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:41238 01:12 [US] [D]: Staengia (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 186 points, 1991 turns, killed by a jackal 01:12 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41240 01:12 npc won't zap polymorph, either, I suppose 01:12 they *should* 01:13 * tinklebear harrumphs 01:13 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1032 points, 2323 turns, killed by a rothe 01:14 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:41406 01:15 just make the npc a little speedier and watch the blood flow 01:15 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:33012 01:16 they could read cursed create monster, and voila golden naga 01:16 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:17 [US] charlie14690 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed darkhosis the Lord in a deathmatch, on T:35092 01:18 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:41601 01:18 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41608 01:19 they could read cursed create monster if they had one in inventory 01:19 * Bleeko makes notes for next run 01:20 oh yeah. those leftover ?oCM from astral ach's? curse them, carry them in open inventory when you ascend. 01:20 Grasshopper ascended with like 30 of them 01:20 :D 01:20 lol 01:21 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33654 01:21 [US] Prowler (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:33656 01:22 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 29 points, 179 turns, killed by a jackal 01:23 https://hardfought.org/userdata/F/Furey/tnnt/dumplog/1700426386.tnnt.html 01:23 I - 48 cursed scrolls of create monster 01:24 noice 01:24 :D 01:25 "that's not a stack. THIS is a stack" 01:27 [US] a1 (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:32616 01:29 [US] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:39729 01:32 [US] tsowell (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 141 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42901 01:32 [US] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:211347 01:33 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:43372 01:33 [US] [D]: eitbrad (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 560 points, 1824 turns, killed by an invisible dwarf king 01:35 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered Jabba, her faithful kitten, on T:3281 01:36 [US] [D]: elron (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 48016 points, 21878 turns, poisoned by a quasit 01:36 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:27828 01:36 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27830 01:36 [US] tsowell (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:43089 01:36 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 01:38 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1871 points, 3376 turns, killed by a hill orc 01:39 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5583 01:39 [US] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic harp", on T:211435 01:39 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a long sword on an altar, on T:3781 01:41 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:42 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:43620 01:43 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:43671 01:44 [US] spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:43725 01:46 [US] [A]: spazm (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2095224 points, 43755 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spazm/tnnt/dumplog/1732294238.tnnt.html 01:46 [US] charlie14690 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker named i NEED more scrolls of identify aaaaahrg!", on T:35721 01:47 [US] mracich (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of polymorph", on T:79066 01:49 [US] [D]: levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3700241 points, 99552 turns, petrified by tasting cockatrice meat (with the Amulet) 01:49 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 531 points, 1332 turns, killed by a brown mold 01:53 [US] [D]: eitbrad (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3962 points, 1363 turns, killed by a gnome 01:53 <@spazm9000> I think with that last ascension i completed the dev null full monty 01:53 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 944 points, 3355 turns, killed by a dingo 01:54 all 3.4.3 conducts, roles, races, genders and alignments? 01:55 [US] tsowell (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 157 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43658 01:55 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3229 01:56 <@spazm9000> yes 01:56 <@spazm9000> i think so 01:56 <@spazm9000> can someone confirm that i did it? 01:57 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3241 01:57 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 7027 points, 5397 turns, killed by a warg 01:58 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:3257 01:58 heh, I just got a scroll of mail from eitbrad (thanks, it checks off "spam spam spam") 01:58 but I have no idea how to send one! 01:58 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:59 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:3266 01:59 eitbo: 1) ssh to hardfought, 01:59 2) login, 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2024-11-23 02:00 UTC: Games: 13, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 2d 02:35 gametime. (46%Cha), 7d 21:59 remaining. 02:00 3) watch someone's game 02:00 4) hit 'm' for "mail" 02:00 cool, thanks! So I can't really reply to the mail scroll(s) I've received, it seems 02:00 unless they are also playing a game at some point 02:00 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:3287 02:01 [US] naf (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:37893 02:01 yeah, sending mail in-game doesn't seem to be a thing we can do 02:01 receiving mail from spectators, that can be done 02:01 but the player can't send mail out from their own game 02:01 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29205 02:01 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:3288 02:02 even a "reply?" after reading it would be kinda cool. But yeah, I can see how sending mail out is a different coding issue 02:02 it would 02:02 you can open a second ssh session and watch somebody else's game while you're playing and send mail that way 02:02 *would be cool 02:02 (y) 02:03 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:1047 02:03 what players often do is hit '#' to begin an extended command, and then type their reply 02:03 ...but it isn't ideal. and you don't really know if the spectator was watching... 02:04 ...at the moment you typed your reply 02:05 [US] OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17486 02:05 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1419 02:06 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1015 points, 1985 turns, killed by a kitten 02:06 [US] bleeko (Ran Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4283 02:09 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 908 points, 1354 turns, killed by a small mimic 02:10 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1539 points, 1819 turns, killed by a Mordor orc 02:10 [US] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12290 02:10 [US] disperse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:11905 02:12 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:14 spazm, I don't know what the old school official 3.4.3 conducts were, or even how many there were 02:15 but I can verify the role-race-gender-alignment part 02:15 [EU] Furey (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:47127 02:15 according to the "character" column under your ascensions listed here: https://tnnt.org/player/spazm 02:15 <@spazm9000> afaik these... but i might be missing something 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have gone without food. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have been an atheist. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have never hit with a wielded weapon. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have been a pacifist. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have been illiterate. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have never genocided any monsters. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have never polymorphed an object. 02:16 Mars, please hold all artifacts until you receive sacrifices from a *high* altar. Thank you. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have never changed form. 02:16 <@spazm9000> You have used no wishes. 02:18 fwiw in the mean time: it is clear from the character column on that page that you have ascended 13 roles, 5 races, 2 genders, and 3 alignments 02:19 <@spazm9000> thanks yeah that part seems so, its the conducts part that i really want to verify 02:20 huhn, I'm trying to extinct woodchucks, and I just burned through 31 rev gen scrolls, quite darn sure that I just killed more than 120 of them 02:20 <@spazm9000> i have 3.4.3 installed im just going to see what it lists the conducts as 02:21 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Cloudmillion's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1478 02:21 <@spazm9000> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1309705338366328933/image.png?ex=67428da5&is=67413c25&hm=46f97538b227a7208cefa2e0db68dc01ce053a85fa82bb52c71333628af8f539& 02:21 well, time to make a few more genocide scrolls and see how many more pop in for a visit! 02:22 there are 12 conducts in 3.4.3: foodless/vegetarian/vegan, wishless/artiwishless, pacifist, illiterate, polyselfless, polypileless, atheist, genoless, weaponless 02:22 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 119 points, 683 turns, killed by a newt 02:23 I think those nine lines imply all 12 conducts 02:23 <@spazm9000> yes they do imply 12, because foodless implies vegetarian and vegan 02:24 [US] OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Raijin, on T:18429 02:24 <@spazm9000> im pretty sure i did get them all 02:25 [US] efot (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:22097 02:25 how many of the 3.6 and TNNT conducts are you planning to do? 02:25 <@spazm9000> but there is no trophy for it so i just wanted to make sure im not missing something 02:26 eitbo, you can get lowballed enough on revgeno 02:26 hmm, you just reminded me of how weird the definition of "with bells on" was 02:26 <@spazm9000> yeah i didnt do it with bells on 02:26 just making it "within a single streak" would be much easier to understand, and more lenient 02:26 <@spazm9000> that is a next level challenge 02:26 Umbire I'm pretty sure none of them produced less than 4, and I was counting - I got to ~125 02:26 it was possible to get a full monty with bells, while missing a grand slam with bells (although IIRC this never actually happened) 02:28 <@spazm9000> i dont know if i will do any extra tnnt or 3.6 conducts, im dont usually focus on conducts at all. this is the first time ive ascended with several of these for the full monty. 02:28 (now I'm trying to remember whether a full monty with bells on ever happened) 02:28 <@spazm9000> the wiki says it did once 02:28 fair enough 02:28 <@spazm9000> by Marvin 02:29 <@spazm9000> and the other 4 times have been without bells on 02:29 <@spazm9000> well 5 times now if i got it 02:29 Marvin makes sense – good enough to pull it off and with a playstyle that's compatible with conducts 02:30 <@spazm9000> im not sure i could ever do it with bells on, maybe if it was still 3.4.3 with the good elbereth 02:30 <@spazm9000> even then it seems quite challenging 02:31 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 357 points, 1120 turns, killed by a bat 02:31 3.4.3 elbereth was so broken 02:31 <@spazm9000> it was absolutely OP 02:31 I found an old strategy guide I wrote for low-resource valkyrie, but it was somewhat designed around the OP version of elbereth 02:32 I didn't use it nearly as heavily as many players, but burned and dusted were both primary choices for escaping difficult situations 02:32 <@spazm9000> absolutely, i used it a lot 02:32 more recently I try to play without it and use consumable escapes, instead – this gives a better idea of what the balance of the game is really like 02:33 (although I once did have to resort to it to rescue an otherwise losing game – I was in an unwinnable fight but somehow had all the components to make DSM on me, although the ?oEA was unidentified) 02:33 <@spazm9000> i really miss being able to burn elbereth in geheonom when a mindflayer was on me 02:33 (so I burned an E and crafted in the middle of a fight) 02:33 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:25151 02:33 ooh! so *that's* why mind flayers are so much more annoying in 3.6 02:33 I had noticed that mind flayers were more of a problem, but not why 02:33 <@spazm9000> oh yeah 02:33 speaking of elbereth, i'm playing e-less conduct this game 02:34 <@spazm9000> i did go elbereth-less in my illiterate game 02:34 <@spazm9000> other than that i dont think i went fully E-less 02:34 huh, given that I play it by default, I get surprised when I discover that other people don't 02:34 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2793 points, 4188 turns, killed by a dwarf 02:34 beyond the early game scrapes, only trouble was evading foocubi before i had a bugle to shoo them away 02:34 but yes, illit implies E-less 02:35 [US] a1 (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34000 02:35 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed erodeproof +2 shield of reflection", on T:30289 02:35 [US] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:15061 02:35 spazm: if you can do atheist you can almost certainly do permadeaf, the primary drawback of that is being unable to talk to priests 02:35 <@spazm9000> oh yeah, to really capture the full monty experience, i dont think i used bugle in any of my ascension 02:35 [US] a1 (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34008 02:35 <@spazm9000> i didnt evne know permadeaf was a thing 02:35 it isn't a true subset conduct like illit and E-less, but it's close 02:36 there are some other things that don't work, like stethoscopes and vault sounds 02:36 [US] disperse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13409 02:36 <@spazm9000> perma deaf doesnt sound too bad 02:36 but most of them aren't hugely relevant 02:38 [US] eitbrad (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful shark, on T:203 02:38 [US] [D]: eitbrad (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 363 points, 330 turns, killed by a grid bug 02:39 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed epiksalad's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:5668 02:39 my holy grail: hallu x deaf 02:39 [EU] Furey (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:47218 02:40 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5717 02:41 (i mention it because hallu makes deafness very relevant) 02:41 tinklebear: I wonder how that compares with foodless + atheist for bad conduct combinations 02:41 "bad"? 02:41 :D 02:42 ok now I'm up to ~155 woodchucks (minimum) by reverse genocide; a total of 37 revgen scrolls so far 02:42 as in it makes the game significantly harder both compared to either individually and in an absolute sense 02:42 (compare to wishless + polypileless which is significantly harder than either individually but still easy enough that I've done it multiple times) 02:42 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 3765 points, 3978 turns, killed by a soldier ant 02:43 I'd term your "bad" ones the "good" ones, and vice versa, I think 02:43 wishless+polypileless is a lot of fun unless you don't find an MR source, then it sucks 02:43 I've got pretty much everything else besides ; extinct, those woodchucks have got to die. 02:44 MR-less doesn't suck. it is fun too 02:44 <@spazm9000> i probably could have went polypileless in my wishless game i just did, but it was my last one i needed for the fully monty and i didnt want to fuck it up 02:45 -!- Haudegen has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 02:45 I'm not well-placed to evaluate the food conducts, or compare their difficulty to others 02:45 [US] naf (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38865 02:45 I have an AceHack wishless+polypileless game parked pre-Gehennom 02:45 ...I'm only now trying a vegetarian run 02:45 cool, ais 02:45 there are like 4 or 5 different ways to fairly easily do foodless on its own (if you aren't combining with other conducts), although I think all of them involve startscumming for =oSD 02:46 I wasn't sure whether to continue without MR or grind for it 02:46 and in the end, just stopped playing NetHack altogether for several months 02:46 <@spazm9000> i def didnt startscum for foodless 02:46 -!- Haudegen has joined #tnnt 02:46 well, all the easy ways involve =oSD startscum, there are harder ways too 02:47 <@spazm9000> i probably got luck with my prayer timeout though 02:47 <@spazm9000> then i wished for slow digestion when i found a magic lamp in minetown 02:49 that's interesting, spazm. no scumming, just prioritising slow digestion 02:50 <@spazm9000> yeah if you wait until you are fainting, usually you will make the pray timeout 02:51 <@spazm9000> but yeah you need to find that slow digestion asap 02:52 cool 02:53 <@spazm9000> i was lucky there was a magic lamp 02:53 :D 02:55 -!- Stumpfenstiel has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 02:56 my current game is wishless and pileless, but I've found three markers so it feels... not as constrained as the combination seems to imply 02:57 <@spazm9000> 3 markers! 02:57 yeah... 02:57 lol 02:57 <@spazm9000> you are all set 02:57 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:6757 02:57 I know. it's all mine to lose 02:57 gon die 02:57 <@spazm9000> nah you got this 02:57 I appreciate your vote of confidence :D 02:58 lol 02:59 <@spazm9000> did you do the castle already? 02:59 yeah. just have to get the death wand from Orcus, and get the book of the dead 02:59 pretty sure I'm ready after that 03:00 <@spazm9000> sounds like you are all set then 03:00 we'll see. never know what'll come up 03:00 [US] recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:4497 03:00 [AU] HungryMotu (Mon Hum Fem Cha) averted death (poisoned by Demogorgon), on T:40598 03:01 <@spazm9000> true anything can happen 03:01 [US] [D]: k2 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 3991 points, 4092 turns, poisoned by a vampire bat (and 4 other games not reported) 03:01 [US] naf (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a marilith, on T:39360 03:03 -!- fadein has joined #tnnt 03:03 oh, for example, yeenoghu could happen. so far no free action 03:04 I could kick more sinks, but I kind of want to see if I can just...not do that 03:04 <@spazm9000> oh yeah he can be trouble with no free action... but 3 markers of AC will kind of mitigate that 03:05 ah. I'm nudist, as well. and atheist 03:05 <@spazm9000> oh my not that is something 03:05 it is a lot of fun 03:05 <@spazm9000> what are those markers even good for then lol 03:05 hahahaha 03:05 :D 03:05 <@spazm9000> reverse geno nurses 03:06 I ... kind of don't like overdoing that stuff? 03:06 <@spazm9000> what are you writing with them then? 03:06 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "fixed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:26018 03:07 what I like to do: play knight, bet everything on the horse and jousting 03:07 [AU] HungryMotu (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:40772 03:07 <@spazm9000> first thing i do is throw the lance away 03:07 heh 03:07 it's so cool there are such different paths to take 03:08 <@spazm9000> one of the cool things about nethack is so may ways to play 03:08 [US] efot (Arc Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:24523 03:08 totally 03:09 pre-quest I kept hitting poly traps, so now I've got a good horse plus like four former horses that I can't ride anymore, but sort of guard the flanks or whatever 03:10 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:26221 03:11 [US] recuerdo (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed recuerdo's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:6454 03:12 -!- Haudegen has quit [Quit: Bin weg.] 03:14 [US] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided woodchuck, on T:215117 03:15 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 03:15 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:26370 03:15 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 03:16 [US] johnnyteapot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:58889 03:16 [US] [D]: rebrane (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1136 points, 1465 turns, killed by a rothe 03:18 [US] disperse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:15818 03:18 [US] johnnyteapot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:58921 03:21 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:21 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) bribed Dispater with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:26695 03:21 markers for charging mostly, I guess. poly wand getting a lot of use, and I like to cast spells 03:22 [US] Bartlem (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:26727 03:25 [US] naf (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:39854 03:26 [US] [D]: k2 (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1626 points, 3426 turns, killed by a gnome mummy (and 2 other games not reported) 03:27 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2568 points, 3031 turns, killed by a rothe 03:27 [US] jackbunny (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3622 03:28 [US] [D]: TeagueasaurusRex (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 124 points, 1052 turns, killed by a jackal 03:28 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:29 [US] [D]: rebrane (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1193 points, 1647 turns, killed by a gnome lord 03:30 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 158 points, 479 turns, killed by a large mimic 03:31 [AU] Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered Jabba, her faithful kitten, on T:313 03:31 [US] [D]: jackbunny (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 3639 points, 4057 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 03:32 [US] allanb (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:8664 03:34 -!- jmcunx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:37 [AU] [D]: Cloudmillion (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1106 points, 1127 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:38 "You smile at the Nazgul seductively. You seduce the Nazgul and he starts to take off his clothes." 03:38