00:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:13860 (2:10:46)
00:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 122 points, T:836, killed by Mr. Midyat; the shopkeeper
00:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13483
00:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Mon Hob Fem Law), 9952 points, T:3833, killed by the Rat King, while helpless
00:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Fla Dop Mal Neu), 246 points, T:603, killed by a gnome
00:25 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:40838 (12:54:18)
00:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 290 points, T:470, killed by eating an egg
00:34 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:41187 (13:03:25)
00:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:17703 (2:55:20)
00:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8302
01:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:7747
01:04 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 silver shield of mobility", on T:41854 (13:33:10)
01:23 <Moult> Arseniy: that's a super cool video. is billdacat you?
01:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10829
01:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6006 (2:55:22)
01:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed +3 Staff of Aesculapius", got "a quarterstaff named the Staff of Aesculapius", on T:464
01:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 118 points, T:468, killed by touching The Staff of Aesculapius
01:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:21785 (3:43:40)
01:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 6610 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Njezjin's liquor emporium, on T:11140
01:42 <Moult> this usage of the drawbridge up/down to kill off the castle denizens is ridiculous. is it commonly done or only in speedruns? i've always fought my way through, often going through the back door
01:54 <Moult> also this same-race sacrifice when chaotic to get peaceful yeenoghu/juiblex is just... always a good thing to do?
01:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 2562 points, T:1475, killed by a baby red dragon
01:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3829
01:59 <Moult> also in this run he writes elbereth as a mind flayer then attacks wraiths surrounding him. isn't that not allowed (to attack) when standing on an E square?
01:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10064 points, T:6140, killed by a piranha
02:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4992 points, T:3981, killed by a Mordor orc
02:04 <Moult> i can't believe how he's just waltzing through VotD and genennom as a master mind flayer with only 36 max hp, can't you die immediately if you get surrounded with that type of hp? i mean he's at 3hp and still walking around not even waiting to heal
02:04 <Moult> speedrunning strategy makes absolutely no sense to me
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02:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:11751
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02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 222 points, T:1267, killed by a gas spore's explosion
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02:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 59 points, T:29, killed by a rabbit
02:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1759 points, T:1572, killed by a wallaby
02:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Quinlan (Mon Hum Mal Law), 366 points, T:1240, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
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02:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Sam Hum Mal Law), 43 points, T:253, killed by a jackal
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03:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2004
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03:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2831 points, T:2454, killed by a tiger
03:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] maneatingcow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:104332
03:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] maneatingcow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with spellbook of finger of death, on T:104332
03:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16521 points, T:17477, killed by an ape, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
03:45 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1032 points, T:2323, killed by a rothe
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03:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 172 points, T:416, killed by a white unicorn
03:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1071 points, T:1558, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping
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03:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:189
03:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Drago512 (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5360
04:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:15653
04:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 851 points, T:1481, killed by a gas cloud
04:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1040 points, T:1569, killed by a pony
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04:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Drago512 (Val Hum Fem Law), 6566 points, T:6576, killed by a wand
04:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Arc Hum Mal Law), 691 points, T:1071, killed by a gnome lady
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04:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful chameleon, on T:17940
04:21 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Kni Hum Mal Law), 272 points, T:286, killed by a gnome
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04:33 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Hea Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1316
04:34 <aoei> Arseniy: wathced some of the vid just now, some nice commentary on BilldaCat's run; re: Elvenking btw I think you also get the extra weapon attack per turn and a bit of extra damage (real Elvenking's hit twice per turn), so it's almost like double damage and then some, but not 100% sure  now that I'm thinking about it
04:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 296 points, T:1416, killed by a giant bat
04:37 <Umbire> it also lets you two-weapon, I think?
04:37 <Umbire> also hi aoei 
04:37 <aoei> nah polyforms can never two-wep
04:37 <aoei> im p sure of that
04:37 <aoei> go wizmode check it for me tho pls
04:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2795
04:38 <Umbire> can do it easy 
04:38 <Umbire> but that's for a valk
04:38 <aoei> but valk can two-weapon anyway?
04:38 <Umbire> I just said that, yes
04:39 <Umbire> I have a 3.4.3 wizgame that's a healer
04:40 <aoei> You can twoweapon while polymorphed only if your polymorphed form has two weapon attacks, regardless of role restrictions.[2] Most monsters with this property are not valid polymorphable forms. The complete list of polymorphable monsters that can twoweapon is: 
04:40 <aoei> ok apparently you're right, and it also bypasses role restrictions
04:40 <Umbire> dw checking anyway
04:40 <Umbire> it's good habit
04:40 <aoei> neato
04:41 <aoei> but you're checking 3.4.3 :V
04:41 <aoei> we need more up to date info
04:41 <Umbire> I know
04:41 <Umbire> anyway it did bypass there
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04:42 <Umbire> very incidentally, I was going over the Elvenking article real quick
04:42 <Umbire> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/uhitm.c#L2396
04:42 <Umbire> https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/include/mondata.h#L131
04:42 <Umbire> had the foresight to cite that
04:43 <Umbire> had been looking over the Monk article before that
04:46 <aoei> now im wondering if my statement earlier was even correct: if single-weaponing, do you actually hit twice with your main, or just once, as Elvenking or other monter with 2x weapon attack? :thonk:
04:46 <Umbire> You hit twice, yeah
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04:46 <aoei> nice
04:47 <aoei> ah yeah its in the code you linked isn't it
04:47 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 19140 points, T:17346, killed by a leocrotta
04:47 <Umbire> probably
04:47 <Moult> :(
04:47 <Umbire> if you mono-weapon with two weapon attacks it hits twice, if you twoweapon you use each one
04:47 <aoei> lol, the comment even asks, "is this really desirable?"
04:47 <Umbire> Moult, no sleep wand?
04:47 <aoei> devteam already thinkin about a nerf at that point
04:47 <Umbire> or anything similar
04:48 <Moult> Umbire: you're right i should've
04:48 <Moult> Umbire: i just button mashed. i was pretty disappointed at stumbling across the quest portal, and instantly getting my armor and cloak disintegrated
04:48 <Umbire> the first thing I try to do if I'm squishy and a leo spots me is to immobilize the bastard
04:48 <Umbire> ah that's rough
04:48 <Moult> i didn't even do anything, just wham instant black dragon
04:49 <Moult> serve me right for exploring before finishing soko and potentially getting the "oR
04:49 <Umbire> I try to uncover the magic portal if I find its floor before actually going through it
04:49 <Umbire> easier to weigh choices that way
04:49 <Umbire> brutal luck though :/
04:49 <Moult> it was a pretty promising healer otherwise.
04:49 <Moult> Umbire: how do you uncover the magic portal without goign through it? usually i don't have scrolls and whatnot identified by then
04:50 <Umbire> confused gold detection
04:50 <Umbire> detect unseen
04:50 <Umbire> secret door detection
04:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1677 points, T:1771, killed by a dingo
04:50 <Umbire> good old fashioned searching
04:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4884 points, T:3941, killed by a gray unicorn
04:50 <Moult> i had a unihorn, AC-5, not great, but a cloak of invis, but i had the luckstone and identified a ton of potions and scrolls
04:51 <Moult> i think i need to watch some ttyrecs of some really skilled, careful players who reliably ascend
04:51 <Moult> not speedrunners with insane risky tactics, just regular careful play
04:52 * Moult goes through some post-death mourning
04:53 * Umbire pats
04:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Kni Hum Mal Law) became literate by naming Sting, on T:349
04:53 <Moult> Umbire: whoah, looking at your stats on nhscoreboard you've nearly played 1k games
04:54 <Moult> Umbire: 5 months of your life of playtime
04:54 <aoei> also d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e asking in chat about arch lich in the context i think of polyforms, nyope, crappy polyform
04:54 <aoei> for one thing they're speed 9 or some shit
04:54 <aoei> they also suck as pets
04:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Kni Hum Mal Law), 149 points, T:506, killed by a brown mold
04:54 <aoei> Moult: oooh do mine
04:54 <Moult> aoei: 6 months 22 days
04:54 <Umbire> they're Fine™ as pets
04:54 <Umbire> just surprisingly underpowered considering
04:55 <Moult> aoei: yet 3k games, so you... play fast?
04:55 <Umbire> 3.7 buffs them
04:55 <aoei> Moult: i do :3
04:55 <Umbire> they're not walled by cold resistance anymore, and by extension neither is the polyform
04:55 <Umbire> you don't get weapon attacks though
04:55 <Moult> aoei: why does it say your first game is 1970-01-01, glitch?
04:56 <aoei> Moult: I believe that's unix epoch 0
04:56 <Moult> aoei: yes, but why
04:56 <aoei> either that or i'm older than i thought i was :3
04:56 <Umbire> but as pets and polyforms I maintain they're both very good if you want a pet/morph that's highly unlikely to die
04:56 <aoei> Moult: fuck if i know
04:56 <Umbire> shit, you can give 3.7 liches white DSM
04:56 <Umbire> for extra not-dying
04:56 <Umbire> (slow digestion source)
04:56 <aoei> wait why would you give them *white* DSM?
04:56 <aoei> oh
04:57 <aoei> oh right 3.7 did weird stuff to the DSMs
04:57 <Umbire> as the local pet enthusiast I have to consider these angles
04:57 <aoei> i rly need to check in on 3.7 at some point, im so out of touch with current
04:57 <Umbire> (odd that I've never run a pacifist game considering)
04:57 <aoei> Umbire: yeah tbh my opinions on pets probably aren't worth all that much given i ... hate pets
04:57 <aoei> and play petless frequently
04:57 <Moult> aoei: you average 1.58 hours per game
04:57 <aoei> Moult: im just built different
04:58 <aoei> anyway, i gotta run sweeties! meeting some friends at a café~
04:58 <Moult> Umbire averages 3.87 hours, and I average 4.18
04:58 <Umbire> later!
04:58 <Moult> aoei: seeya :)
04:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1872
04:59 <Umbire> yeah I want to do speedruns eventually and I feel I'm very capable but it's not something I'm in the habit of 
04:59 <Umbire> much more of a "scenic route" guy
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04:59 <Moult> Umbire: are you able to reliably ascend?
04:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 1106 points, T:1877, killed by an owlbear
04:59 <Moult> i feel as though "reliably ascend whilst playing safely" is a good first goal for me before trying trick shots
04:59 <Umbire> I have a lot of ascendable vanilla games but I'm not exactly anal about rates and such
05:00 <Umbire> also I've done a weaponless vegan monk with like
05:00 <Umbire> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/tnnt/dumplog/1698837560.tnnt.html
05:00 <Moult> Umbire: well an ascension rate of 4.9% is already pretty awesome
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05:01 <Umbire> polyselfless too
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05:01 <Moult> Umbire: throwing shuriken counts as weaponless? neat
05:01 <Umbire> yes, weaponless = no wielded weapons
05:02 <Moult> surely samurai would be more roleplay-suitable to throw shuriken
05:02 <Moult> i wonder what might suit a monk?
05:03 <Moult> in my mind i visualise a dagger to be identical to a knife :)
05:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 372 points, T:1117, killed by a coyote
05:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, T:30, killed by a falling rock
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05:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:22904
05:06 <Umbire> most people picture that I think
05:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1900
05:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2033 points, T:2191, killed by a giant beetle
05:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 66 points, T:114, killed by a jackal
05:28 <Moult> is there a name for nethack post death feeling
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05:34 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 161 points, T:842, killed by a bat
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05:44 <Umbire> idk lol
05:47 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1317
05:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1545 (0:20:37)
05:56 <Arseniy> There doesn'tn appear to be any bonus damage in elvenking form, just the weapon damage.
05:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2307
05:57 <Arseniy> combined with no AC bonus and mediocre hit points, I still don't think it's a particularly strong polyform
05:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Drago512's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2487
06:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4048 points, T:2528, killed by a fire ant
06:01 <Arseniy> also the double attack only applies to one-handed weapons
06:02 <Umbire> yeah we went over the double attack stuff already
06:02 <Umbire> the 'bonus' was referring to the weapon damage
06:02 <Umbire> should rephrase for wiki
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06:09 <Moult> ok i've just learned there is actually a minetown where monkeys live
06:10 <Moult> i now hate bazaar town
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06:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4812 (0:44:21)
06:15 <Moult> DL3 and i already have a +3 leather jacket and +2 shirt. AC-9. neat!
06:17 <Umbire> yay
06:17 <Umbire> also yeah bazaar town sucks dick
06:18 <Umbire> orc town low-diffs it
06:19 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3419
06:19 <Moult> Umbire: low diffs?
06:20 <Umbire> bit of online slang related to power scaling lol
06:20 <Umbire> low diff(iculty), no diff, etc.
06:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4072 points, T:5588, killed by a mumak
06:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 696 points, T:1422, killed by a pony
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06:23 <Arseniy> Moult: that dragon hit you after you spend one turn applying unihorn, you'd have saved your armour if you noped out immediately
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06:29 <Umbire> ...which I'm not sure is possible unless he un-confuses himself
06:29 <Umbire> was he still on the portal's square?
06:30 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:42004 (13:41:26)
06:30 <Arseniy> yes, and did actually sit on it to get out on the next turn
06:30 <Umbire> ah
06:31 <Umbire> avoidable then, but still very unfortunate
06:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 329 points, T:770, killed by a dart
06:40 <Arseniy> As for the leocrotta, spotting one without having decently negative armour is an emergency. You cannot fight them.
06:41 <Arseniy> Engraving E while blind also doesn't really work.
06:46 <Arseniy> I've made a whole video series on playing a 13-game streak and the leitmotif was, one needs to recognize the danger (and act) immediately, as one turn later may be too late.
06:51 <Umbire> yeah, sharpening instincts is a big factor in ascending semi-consistently
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06:54 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:42377 (14:06:08)
06:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:93164 (1 day, 18:58:14)
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07:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Fire Brand by Anhur, on T:83783
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07:15 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:42842 (14:26:33)
07:15 <Moult> Arseniy: hmm yeah if you check the ttyrec timestamps you'll see I was button mashing
07:15 <Moult> How do I break that habit
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07:17 <Umbire> as I often say, you have infinite time to move :B
07:18 <Moult> Umbire: i know, but it's a habit to treat it like a real time FPS
07:18 <Moult> Arseniy: where can i find this video series?
07:19 <Moult> Arseniy: also let me know if you find any more bugs on pyttyplay :)
07:19 <Moult> what counts as "decently negative armor"? is this just through experience or is there a way to wiki-calculate this?
07:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:93252 (1 day, 19:21:38)
07:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:93253 (1 day, 19:21:47)
07:20 <Umbire> it's an experience thing
07:21 <Umbire> leocrottas I prefer to have like -5 AC give or take
07:21 <Umbire> in an ideal scenario
07:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a silver saber named Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:11784
07:21 <Umbire> (but as always, you plan for worse than ideal)
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07:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 435 points, T:1888, killed by a large spider
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07:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1729 (0:06:57)
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Sectumsempra (Kni Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baphomet, on T:44132 (14:54:44)
07:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:93278 (1 day, 19:29:11)
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07:52 <Arseniy> Moult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHTxAEsGT7o&list=PLChC_Y8sQL22nRplbXNjpyu7rYd-PoIfc
07:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7763 points, T:5133, killed by a white unicorn
07:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 174 points, T:25, killed by a gas spore's explosion
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07:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1956 points, T:3386, killed by a hill orc
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08:03 <Arseniy> I'm not aware of any bugs but loading time is an issue. There is also flickering during playback of your own ttyrec (2024-12-22.08_34_13.ttyrec.gz), screen visibly goes all blank momentarily
08:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1803 (0:08:43)
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08:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35319
08:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35320
08:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 28 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35588
08:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 16 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35589
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08:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:93453 (1 day, 19:52:39)
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08:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 483 points, T:1427, killed by a gnome lord
08:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3563 (0:19:39)
08:17 <crunchbubba80> reading scrollback, I see discussion I triggered. so fun watching the commentary yesterday (for me yesterday)
08:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:93480 (1 day, 19:57:12)
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08:20 <crunchbubba80> I should watch again. a few things struck me, Arseniy. those runs were not perfect, like "I have no idea why I was carrying those daggers", "I didn't notice that my boh was not blessed", "I forgot I had a mattock and kept looking for my pickaxe" was one. "you don't have to be perfect" was the takeaway
08:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:93484 (1 day, 19:59:22)
08:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:93484 (1 day, 19:59:30)
08:21 <crunchbubba80> that polyself is sort of an amulet of lifesaving was a new concept although I knew you reverted to your original form
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08:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 927 points, T:1272, killed by a dingo puppy, while helpless
08:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 14648 points, T:5768, poisoned by a stone dart
08:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed kingfollower's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2415
08:33 <crunchbubba80> Arseniy , I also need to watch your blind samurai game. is there a commentary version of that?
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08:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3249
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08:42 <Umbire> in a very loose sense polyself is an "extra life" but it's not something you want to lean on too much, if at all
08:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nndnh] zor (Hea Ent Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2219
08:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Kni Hum Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:14724
08:49 <crunchbubba80> I was just struck by very low HP not being a concern
08:51 <Umbire> it means that form dies quicker, which means you get returned to normal quicker and typically lose a bunch of current HP in the process
08:51 <Umbire> and if that form made you drop important armor/weapons/everything, well,
08:52 <crunchbubba80> he was cycling between human (IIRC) and vampire lord and master mind flayer, so all the stuff didn't change (again IIRC)
08:53 <Umbire> yeah, it's very much down to the forms you choose when it comes to controlled polymorph
08:54 <crunchbubba80> I think billdacat was using minotaurs, so that would make the armor a thing to worry about
08:58 <crunchbubba80> during tnnt, I needed to gain levels, so did the new-to-me vault farming for potions, but it took me a lot longer because I didn't think of cutting and pasting the sequence, so I did a lot of typing. that is something I will have to use, someday
09:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vinyl (Cav Gno Fem Neu) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Ishtar, on T:42244
09:03 <crunchbubba80> and despite Areseniy saying it about 50 times, I still have no idea how to pronounce "aoei"
09:04 <Glasshopper> sounds like a bunch of vowels crammed in together
09:04 <aoei> I thought I was the minotaur user
09:05 -!- Glasshopper is now known as Grasshopper
09:05 <aoei> and there is no canon way to pronounce the name aoei
09:05 <aoei> she's just aoei
09:05 <aoei> pronunciation varies
09:05 <Grasshopper> it sounds like it reads
09:05 <Grasshopper> which is subjective by definition
09:05 <Umbire> hi Grasshopper 
09:05 <aoei> Grasshopper: basically that
09:05 <Grasshopper> hi Umbire 
09:06 <Grasshopper> hi aoei 
09:06 <aoei> hey :)
09:06 * aoei will resume watching the video in a moment
09:06 <Grasshopper> <3 aoei 
09:06 <aoei> i was out with friends having brunch and so on
09:06 <Grasshopper> sounds nutritious
09:06 <Grasshopper> and good fun
09:07 <aoei> i consumed a good amount of food, will not go hungry today
09:07 <Umbire> satiated
09:07 <Umbire> yay
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] griffs (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1822
09:09 <crunchbubba80> perhaps it was you. I watched it over a few days, and may be confused. that happens a lot. he only briefly covered your speedrun, saying that he thinks you will do your own commentary
09:12 <Grasshopper> today I replaced the light fitting in my office/lab, where I usually play nethack and a few other things
09:12 <Grasshopper> 3x light according to specs, but old one was failing anyway
09:13 <Grasshopper> anyways, now I can see how much crap and dust has accumulated in here over last year or so since last major clean
09:13 <Grasshopper> <gulp>
09:17 <Grasshopper> gonna need a bigger vacuum
09:24 <aoei> oof ouch, BilldaCat's run just before t5k losing two poly wands to a chest trap
09:24 <aoei> brutal
09:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Amulet of Yendor", on T:108
09:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached the Plane of Earth, on T:109
09:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:110
09:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 884960 points, T:111, ascended, in debug mode
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Regalia/nhfourk/dumps/2024-12-22%2014%3A27%3A25%2C%20wizard-Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt
09:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Amulet of Yendor", on T:1
09:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) reached the Astral Plane, on T:2
09:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1094470 points, T:2, ascended, in debug mode
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Regalia/nhfourk/dumps/2024-12-22%2014%3A29%3A46%2C%20wizard-Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt
09:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "unicorn horn", on T:103
09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1356 points, T:454, quit, in debug mode
09:32 <rld> <@hackemslashem> I feel like explore mode should suppress livelogs
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +300 broad pick", on T:1
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "gauntlets of power", on T:2
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09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "15 blessed potions of gain ability", on T:16
09:35 <Umbire> this is wizmode but yeah
09:35 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3420
09:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "", on T:44
09:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+20 blessed rustproof Grayswandir", on T:44
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "15 blessed potions of gain ability", on T:1
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "gauntlets of power", on T:1
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "10 blessed potions of full healing", on T:3
09:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "10 blessed potion of gain energy", on T:18
09:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a long sword named Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:15260
09:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+50 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:25
09:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+50 blessed fireproof cloak of magic resistance", on T:29
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+20 blessed Grayswandir", on T:30
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:30
09:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+20 blessed rustproof Sting", on T:31
09:49 <Umbire> @hackemslashem is that you btw or someone else
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "The Orb of Detection", on T:31
09:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the gnomish race by travelling via magic portal, on T:90
09:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed potion of holy water", on T:122
09:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 198 points, T:555, killed by a coyote
09:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 65 points, T:55, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9 points, T:131, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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09:56 <rld> <@hackemslashem> Not it lol
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "", on T:170
09:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:26, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 54 points, T:69, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of magic breath", on T:187
09:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5 points, T:60, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of teleportation", on T:187
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 0 points, T:32, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:00 * aoei finished watching BilldaCat's run, reviewed by DoktorL aka Arseniy
10:00 <aoei> will watch the next lil segment on my own run, altho apparently it's "just the start of the run" bc i am goign to (probably) do my own
10:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Ill Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph
10:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:80, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (Regalia) (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:286
10:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 20 points, T:1, killed by a boiling potion
10:02 <aoei> does anybody want to watch me stream a post-run commentary of my #2 TNNT TC run next weekend on Saturday?
10:02 <aoei> like maybe 1700 CET would be a good time for me
10:03 <Umbire> sure, if I can make it
10:03 <aoei> i guess it's late enough in the day for me that it'll be day time for you
10:03 <aoei> I'm unsure how much prep time I need tho
10:04 <aoei> I will probably do Arseniy's trick of playing the ttyrecs with ttyplay, screen recording that, and then using mpv or vlc for the actual stream so i can instant-replay stuff
10:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 314 points, T:507, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] n (post163) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a system shock
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9681 points, T:33, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1228 points, T:58, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
10:07 <aoei> btw Arseniy i really enjoyed the blooper highlights XD
10:07 <aoei> like the self-poly that went awry (i have also done this, but not sure if that was in my tc run or a different game), and the choking
10:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Gno Nbn Neu), 0 points, T:1, zapped themself with a wand
10:08 <Arseniy> I would definitely watch the stream
10:08 <aoei> I'm curious now how much of my run you actually covered, but will continue watching the video in a while, taking a break to do some chores around the house and so on :)
10:09 <aoei> paused now at https://youtu.be/GaFCp7BqN0Q?t=4722 which is pretty much where you finish off the review of BilldaCat's run
10:09 <Arseniy> I have watched BilldaCat's and the beginning of your run just so I would know what to skip past and where to skip to. My own run wast still fresh enough in my memory that I did no preparation beyond screen-recording the video of it.
10:12 <aoei> "beginning" means up to Castle WoW or so? :P
10:13 <Arseniy> Less than that, ended shortly before reaching castle
10:15 <Arseniy> crunchbubba80: there are no narrated versions of my zen runs. I have three of them, one in 3.7 and two in TNNT. All made it past the early game but the first two were ended by giant with wand of death and arch-lich at the castle, respectively.
10:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
10:17 <aoei> you won a zen run? :o
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10:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2746
10:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Giantslayer by The Lady, on T:2824
10:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 820 points, T:944, killed by a small mimic
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10:24 <Arseniy> Yes, it was part of the teamwork to get all achievements but then I went ahead an ascended as well.
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10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Hops, his faithful kitten, on T:1162
10:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", got "2 scrolls labeled ZLORFIK", on T:3093
10:25 <aoei> nice, pog
10:27 <Arseniy> it's not particularly hard, I've since done pacifist in 3.7 and that took way, way more attempts, even excluding the prolific start-scumming
10:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:3094
10:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 71 points, T:64, killed by a gnome zombie
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10:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4158 points, T:5426, killed by Mr. Kabalebo, the shopkeeper
10:35 <crunchbubba80> no worries, Arseniy. I will try to watch the zen slowly to figure out what you're doing
10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:02)
10:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:153205
10:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6780 (1:09:45)
10:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Arc Hum Fem Law), 814 points, T:1127, killed by a giant bat
10:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", got "a greased bag", on T:4864
10:45 <Arseniy> There are two main components to it: 1. if you run back and forth on a level of monster difficulty 3 or just above loung enough, you will eventually find a floating eye and 2. blessed potions of object detection reveal appearance of all objects on the level, including your inventory and inside containers.
10:46 <aoei> :O
10:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1298 (0:07:01)
10:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vinyl (Cav Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wayfarer (level 14), on T:50524
10:48 <Arseniy> also while you cannot type-name scrolls etc. you don't know appearance of, you can still individual-name them, those names won't show up in inventory but you can see them again by individual-naming that item again
10:50 <crunchbubba80> (cuts and pastes)
10:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:7616 (1:21:10)
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10:52 <Arseniy> Bying and selling in shops also reveals appearance, but that's less potent because your gold is finite (and if you rely on your pet to steal things back then that make take toll on your mental health).
10:53 <Arseniy> So that's how you deal with inventory, and for monsters you can't see, no big surprise there, you just bash them whenever you bump into them
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3022
10:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Lucifer, on T:93625 (1 day, 20:20:10)
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2030 (0:13:43)
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 6146 points, T:3256, quit
10:59 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:3 (0:00:03)
11:01 <rld> <@hackemslashem> And blessed potions of object detection are amazing
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1833 points, T:1612, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
11:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 262 points, T:866, killed by Ms. Tsjernigof; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
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11:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2334 (0:23:37)
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11:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) entered Purgatory, on T:93638 (1 day, 20:22:31)
11:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] df (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 23162 points, T:4469, quit
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:23976 (4:24:22)
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mikew999 (Pri Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2415
11:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 90 points, T:664, killed by a jackal
11:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4546
11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3924 points, T:4561, killed by a gargoyle
11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1244 (0:06:58)
11:15 <crunchbubba80> I did not know that blessed potions of object detection ID'd things in inventory (open inventory, I assume)
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11:15 <Umbire> it treats items detected as though you'd handled them personally (i.e. while not blind)
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11:15 <Umbire> so you get object appearances (and thus objects IDs if you know thos)
11:15 <Umbire> those*
11:16 <paxed> "seen up close"
11:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Dragonbane by Anu, on T:33153
11:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2778 (0:36:29)
11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:4426 (0:33:41)
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11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 2248 points, T:4442, zombified by a kobold zombie
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11:20 <crunchbubba80> oic, you don't get the thing ID'd, but you know it's smoky or labelled KO BATE
11:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1719 points, T:1401, killed by an invisible gnome lord
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76598
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76600
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9797 (1:47:23)
11:24 <Umbire> mhm
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11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered Biter, her faithful purple worm, on T:76819
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:76820
11:27 <aoei> ha i got to the bit where DoktorL gets to the big scroll shop on dl3 and said out loud "ohh! :o"
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:76939
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1956 points, T:1091, killed by a gnome
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:76945
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2847 points, T:3476, quit
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:02)
11:33 <crunchbubba80> several things were amusing about that, like that the entire thing was unplanned as a speedrun
11:34 <crunchbubba80> and caveman limited spells seem limiting for that goal
11:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10638
11:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical bag called holding containing 55 items on an altar, on T:10040 (2:00:55)
11:36 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:932 (0:04:40)
11:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Ixoth), on T:27111 (4:56:00)
11:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Ixoth), on T:27113 (4:56:06)
11:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:27114 (4:56:12)
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27116 (4:56:15)
11:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4101 (0:59:46)
11:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:153425
11:42 <aoei> "I patched it to eliminate long pauses" I would like your patch please Arseniy 
11:42 <aoei> crunchbubba80: barb, not cav
11:42 <crunchbubba80> my bad. those are still comingled in my brain
11:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:27609 (4:59:02)
11:45 <Arseniy> https://pastebin.com/UM1vx1bB
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11:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone staff on an altar, on T:3188 (0:17:17)
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11:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 18315 points, T:13782, killed by an air elemental
11:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 59039 points, T:8811, killed by a priest mummy, while praying
11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Thief (level 30), on T:77419
11:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 5647 points, T:3850, killed by a piranha
11:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:90, killed by a jackal
11:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 123 points, T:429, killed by a marid
12:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:31640 (5:16:18)
12:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:77501
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5042 points, T:3643, killed by a bat, while fainted from lack of food
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:94638 (1 day, 21:11:29)
12:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:39693
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12:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:94639 (1 day, 21:12:16)
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12:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4505
12:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Njezjin, the liquor emporium proprietor, on T:29269
12:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1276
12:05 <aoei> and im applying that to what, https://github.com/mjording/ttyrec ?
12:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1323 points, T:2742, killed by a piranha
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:11259 (2:33:45)
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1664 points, T:4675, killed by a gray ooze
12:10 <Arseniy> Yes (that's one of the places this exact version of the source can be found)
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12:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:77794
12:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nirol0 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:77796
12:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mikew999 (Pri Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4705
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12:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "+2 blessed greased silvered fixed acid-coated Vorpal Sword", on T:2909
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12:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7033 points, T:6634, killed by a giant cockroach
12:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Werebane by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55078
12:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 0 points, T:45, killed by opening a silver container
12:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2699
12:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 23135 points, T:4160, quit
12:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41972
12:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2719
12:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 294 points, T:576, killed by a crossbow bolt
12:28 <aoei> oki
12:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 3193 points, T:2997, killed by a killer bee
12:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2114 (0:22:06)
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12:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 828 points, T:2345, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping
12:39 <aoei> im greatly enjoying your run commentary
12:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3427 (0:31:55)
12:39 <aoei> right now you're at 1965 turns at the castle wand
12:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13391 (3:03:26)
12:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3925 (0:41:45)
12:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:33801
12:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:34590
12:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8588 (2:13:49)
12:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:16774
12:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an iron lock pick on an altar, on T:4616 (0:49:43)
12:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1476
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Epoch's Curve, on T:45768
12:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 20910 points, T:9119, killed by a chameleon imitating a saber-toothed tiger
13:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:55803
13:00 <Arseniy> glad you like it, that's what it's there for, for folks to enjoy <3
13:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was given Hellrider's Saddle, on T:45981
13:02 <aoei> also very funny seeing in full detail what i only had clues about before back when i was starting my run... i was, i admit, fooled partly by hubris, but also partly by not expecting how much great luck and shenanigans you combined together...
13:02 <aoei> "ah, whatever, he's not a 'proper' speedrunner, so he probably can't beat us"
13:02 <aoei> "oh lol he's playing Barbarian? no chance"
13:02 <aoei> little did i know :)
13:03 <aoei> hubris! arrogance!
13:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3007 (0:22:46)
13:04 <aoei> pride, too -- I refused to use bones or swapchest
13:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 8564 points, T:4227, killed by a hill orc
13:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3612 (0:27:22)
13:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:35200
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13:10 <Arseniy> I think you were in the IRC chatting when the bot announced I took the potions from the chest but with all the bot noise it must have been hard to notice
13:11 <aoei> oh LOL that was livelogged? i didn't see it until you took them from your bag
13:11 <Arseniy> all donations taken are livelogged
13:11 <aoei> I have some custom filters for Beholder/Croesus anyway
13:12 <aoei> making it even harder for me to notice stuff like that
13:12 <aoei> and for a while I didn't even know you were DoktorL
13:12 <aoei> so I knew you were talking about your run but I hadn't realised your run = DoktorL's run
13:12 <aoei> only later I grepped my behold_less buffer for DoktorL livelogs to see when you got to certain milestones
13:14 <aoei> not sure *when* you did your potion shenanigans, the part that would have been livelogged, relative to my game, like, would i have done anything differently? maaaaaybe
13:14 <aoei> depending on how early on i noticed it, i could have tried to copy the cheese
13:15 <Arseniy> It was when you were somewhere in gehennom, before sanctum
13:15 <aoei> at that point i would have had to go back to the Valley in order to do it i suppose
13:16 <aoei> there's no sanctum swap chest, is there? just the valley and mines end
13:16 <Arseniy> no there isn't, only those two
13:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 55 points, T:260, killed by a jackal
13:16 <aoei> couple of things i noticed on your commentary by the way, which I believe are misconceptions
13:17 <aoei> on Medusa's level you mentioned being afraid of landing on an island
13:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown, on T:4387 (0:35:50)
13:17 <aoei> I'm quite sure that never happens, you land always on the same island as the stairs
13:17 <aoei> the upstairs
13:17 <aoei> also, I'm pretty sure the passive attacks of monsters like red F never destroy items
13:18 <aoei> so there would have been no need to drop scrolls for that
13:18 <Arseniy> Do they not? I still threw weapons at that mold to be safe.
13:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vinyl (Cav Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful garter snake, on T:59689
13:18 <Umbire> it does not
13:18 <Umbire> only active attacks can
13:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4468 (0:37:19)
13:18 <Umbire> the most passives can do is burn vulnerable weapons that hit it
13:19 <Umbire> to my knowledge, anyway
13:19 <aoei> ah yeah like if you attack an acid blob with a corrodable sword, it may corrode
13:19 <aoei> but that's cos you're literally hitting it with that sword
13:19 <Arseniy> I'm pretty sure you can corrode your armour, even if doesn't happen often
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:4680 (0:38:39)
13:21 <Arseniy> The Medusa thing though, I still had my flying polyform at that point so I got all confused it seems
13:22 <aoei> > 50% chance of an acid damage. If this succeeds, there's a 1/30 chance that your armor is subject to corrosion
13:22 <aoei> you're right, at least about acid blobs
13:22 <aoei> i think that's unusual though and perhaps only happens with acid
13:22 <aoei> rust monster's passive can affect both gloves as well as sword, tho
13:23 <Arseniy> yeah acid only, not cold or fire or black pudding
13:23 <aoei> finding a source on the Medusa thing might be less straight-forward but i think basically it's the same mechanism that some other special levels have for where you first land if you are levelporting or falling down, like e.g. coming to the castle from above you *never* land at the back side
13:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 330 points, T:1328, killed by a large mimic
13:25 <Arseniy> That's true of the medusa variants with big starting island, but the one with dragons I think you can land on another
13:26 <aoei> i could be wrong... but i would be surprised
13:26 <aoei> the lua files would say for sure, but i don't really know how to read them
13:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nndnh] zor (Hea Ent Mal Neu), 21209 points, T:3529, killed by a warg
13:27 <aoei> might be easier to ask someone like, i dunno, paxed or ais523, or aosdict, i expect those folks would know how this mechanic works and/or how the lua files determine this
13:28 <paxed> -- Teleport: down to up stairs island, up to Medusa's island
13:28 <paxed> des.teleport_region({ region = {01,01,05,17}, dir="down" })
13:28 <paxed> des.teleport_region({ region = {26,04,50,15}, dir="up" })
13:28 <Arseniy> They all seem to define single rectangular region for where you arrive when coming in particular direction
13:28 <paxed> yup
13:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 443 points, T:695, killed by a giant bat
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:3200
13:33 <aoei> looks like on the way down you will indeed always land near the stairs, same island
13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dyriade (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2045 points, T:8216, killed by a gas spore's explosion
13:34 <Arseniy> On the other three variants, yes. But on the dragon level stair region and arrival region almost coincide and both cover multiple islands
13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1631 points, T:3543, killed by a hill orc
13:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Und Hum Fem Law), 447 points, T:865, killed by a boiling potion
13:35 <aoei> oh do they, i perhaps didn't look closely enough at that one
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13:36 <aoei> oh yeah true that region is huge
13:37 <aoei> so it's unlikely but can happen in a few edge cases
13:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 138243 points, T:37487, killed by a troll
13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "bob", on T:5964 (1:34:07)
13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] t8erboi (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 217 points, T:645, killed by falling down a mine shaft
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13:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:94958 (1 day, 21:55:19)
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the White Horse, on T:94962 (1 day, 21:56:09)
13:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Ice Dop Mal Neu), 1210 points, T:1458, killed by an imp
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law), 372 points, T:928, killed by a crossbow bolt
14:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2294 points, T:3306, killed by a dwarf
14:09 <aoei> "aoei will be delighted to know i spent 600 turns trying to get Cleaver" lmao
14:09 <aoei> yes i laughed a great deal about this
14:10 <aoei> TBH i've made the mistake of trying to sac for Magicbane on the wizard quest on a tc run and it's just... not a great idea (i got it quickly *once* but it wasn't worth it, and most of my best runs just ascended with quarterstaff i think)
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 8650 points, T:6159, killed by a bolt of fire
14:14 <aoei> amuses me also how BilldaCat choked on a hellhound corpse while *wearing a fire res ring* and you seem quite interested in fire res
14:14 <aoei> and i just... ascended without it entirely :p
14:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 848 points, T:1158, killed by the Goblin King
14:14 <Umbire> means not having to stress as much about fire traps and other assorted shit
14:14 <aoei> pffff
14:15 <aoei> it's not really that bad
14:15 <aoei> not like NetHack 1.3d where you instadie entering Gehennom
14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] hack85 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1013 points, T:1858, killed by an iguana, while helpless
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14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] W (fsbt490) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 507 points, T:1838, killed by an elf zombie
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3492
14:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an arrow on an altar, on T:3672
14:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) put the invisible Death down for a little nap, on T:95041 (1 day, 22:19:47)
14:25 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:95046 (1 day, 22:21:35)
14:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4239
14:31 <Arseniy> You (as well as billdacat) were also polymorphed all the time, and then fire traps don't do much at all
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2128 (0:16:20)
14:32 <aoei> i got to the point where you're at the valley swap chest and im dying of laughter now
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Law), 6339090 points, T:95071, ascended
14:32 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1734198015.evil.html
14:32 <aoei> mobileuser: pog
14:33 <mobileuser> thx :-)
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Pri Hum Fem Cha) was bestowed with Demonbane by Offler, on T:1923
14:34 <Arseniy> for me who doesn't have much in the way of range attacks, though, it's nice being able to smash fire vortices
14:35 <aoei> honestly it's rare that there is any reason to smash a fire vortex
14:35 <aoei> but you also don't have a scare tool right
14:36 <Arseniy> ah yes, keep forgetting those still work in 3.6
14:36 <Arseniy> I did pick up bugle at the castle
14:36 <aoei> ah you did on the second castle visit? i missed that probably
14:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2913 points, T:4503, quit
14:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3087 (0:22:20)
14:38 <Arseniy> yeah all the soldiers were out of their cages I had to make my way though them anyway
14:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mikew999 (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 2612 points, T:9052, killed by a blue jelly
14:39 <aoei> also nice description of the vault guard farming, i had understood the broad strokes from what you mentioned in IRC but not the details like tame purple worms and the curse whistle to get more of them quickwer
14:39 <aoei> omg the loot pile in the farm video lmao
14:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2711 points, T:2677, killed by a water moccasin
14:41 <Arseniy> One of my clanemates went crazy with it in their game, they got like 10 markers by polypiling those cursed whistles
14:42 <aoei> do they really carry magic ones?
14:42 <aoei> i had assumed you were mistaken and it was just cursed tin whistles
14:42 <Arseniy> no, but given enough whistles at the input, they don't have to be magic
14:42 <aoei> ah ok
14:42 <Arseniy> when I said magic whistles, I misspoke
14:43 <aoei> <Unit327> Why take the juiblex express when you can take willy Wonka's magic elevator
14:43 <aoei> lol
14:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1739 points, T:4334, quit
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Kni Vam Fem Cha), 2686 points, T:2341, killed by Mr. Boyabai; the shopkeeper
14:50 <Arseniy> a well-armed archon will also delete the guards fast enough so the strat can be marketed to pacifists
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14:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2169 points, T:2362, killed by a human zombie
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14:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Nec Dop Fem Cha), 24 points, T:103, killed by a fox
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14:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1117 (0:05:14)
15:01 <Umbire> Remind me exactly how long worm bites work in 3.7
15:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] zor (Tou Dop Mal Neu), 16 points, T:111, killed by a jackal
15:02 <Umbire> I know it can hit multiple times, or at least it did when I was wizmode testing one for the tail-cutting, but the how and why escapes me
15:04 <Umbire> and in general I don't know much at all about long worm mechanics beyond the most basic stuff
15:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 5314 points, T:6160, killed by a gnome lady, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:17575
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3680 points, T:2972, killed by a dwarf
15:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vuin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 528 points, T:3022, killed by a cave spider, while fainted from lack of food
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15:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] PigInZen (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 462 points, T:1596, killed by a hobbit
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2567 points, T:2278, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze
15:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2104
15:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:18061 (3:55:38)
15:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2310 points, T:2989, killed by a black unicorn
15:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1386 points, T:1618, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5763 (0:38:53)
15:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Rog Vam Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8833 (3:08:42)
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:20027
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1078 points, T:1891, killed by a giant ant
15:44 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 288 points, T:1531, killed by a small mimic
15:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4813 points, T:3107, killed by a spotted jelly
15:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", got "an uncursed magic marker", on T:35605
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15:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1113 points, T:1804, killed by a giant bat
15:50 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Arc Hum Fem Law), 266 points, T:870, killed by an elf zombie
15:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10714
16:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] jugglingotaku (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2305
16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] ttiger11 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 138 points, T:185, killed by Mr. Carignan; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:8520 (0:58:41)
16:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic whistle", got "a blessed whistle", on T:36151
16:24 <Umbire> !tell ais523 when you get a chance, I'd like to walk through and document as much of the long worm-relevant code as possible
16:24 <Beholder> No worries, Umbire, I've got this!
16:25 <Umbire> !tell ais523 ("as much as possible in a sitting" is perfectly fine of course :B)
16:25 <Beholder> I'm on it, Umbire.
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of flight", got "a blessed triangular amulet", on T:36152
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of flying", got "a blessed spherical amulet", on T:36155
16:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3451
16:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 11599 points, T:2356, killed by a white unicorn, while being terrified of a ghost
16:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", got "a blessed greased cloak of magic resistance", on T:36185
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a blessed greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:36185
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 129064 points, T:34154, killed by an energy vortex, while attempting to cheat Death
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Rog Vam Mal Cha) had Bat from Hell bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:11353 (4:06:18)
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16:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 23 points, T:137, killed by a sewer rat
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16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Noah (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:36592
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16:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2787 points, T:2883, killed by an ettin zombie, while moving through the air
16:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2051 points, T:4396, killed by a tortle shaman
16:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8221 (3:44:42)
16:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Loggers (Wiz Eth Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:9562
17:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law), 233 points, T:861, killed by a bat
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17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1112
17:13 <Moult> aoei: have you tried my new little ttyrec player? (which supports rewinding?)
17:15 <aoei> i have not, and i do not have time to experiment, i think Arseniy's approach with the very basic ttyplay + screen-capture and video playback with a "proper" video player is the simplest and lowest-risk appraoch
17:15 <aoei> i will just do that
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17:16 <Moult> aoei: ok, if you do have python installed it's just a matter of running a python script
17:17 <aoei> and a matter of trusting you enough to run your script, trusting that it will work without any surprising bugs, or taking the time to test it out...
17:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 739 points, T:1668, killed by a gold arrow
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17:18 <aoei> tell me, how thoroughly have you tested this?
17:18 <Moult> aoei: definitely don't do it on anything critical, but Arseniy has been testing it and at the moment has run out of bugs
17:19 <Moult> aoei: https://thinkmoult.com/pyttyplay-nethack-player.html
17:19 <aoei> consider: I'm streaming on Saturday in less than a week, and before then is the xmas holidays etc. so i will be super busy
17:19 <aoei> your code may well be fantastic but i don't want to risk it
17:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Fukka (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:15153
17:20 <Moult> sure, but just FYI if you were looking for a little player that could also instant rewind etc.
17:21 <aoei> perhaps i'll give it a try some time, right now im more focused on concrete and immediate goals and not so much on exploring new things, is all
17:24 <Moult> aoei: cheers, if you do get a chance, let me know how it goes and if you have any suggestions for improvements
17:26 <Arseniy> aoei: I've run it a lot and look at the code, there doesn't appear to be any rm -rf $HOME in it
17:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] lispwitch (Brd Hlf Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:33720
17:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 74909 points, T:16226, suffocated by a water elemental
17:28 <Moult> Arseniy: are you experiencing flickering on a particular file where it's very bad? at the moment i only see the occasional flicker when a lot of frames occur at once (since the code refreshes the entire screen, unlike vanilla ttyplay which just emits the sequence which is incremental)
17:29 <aoei> Arseniy: XD
17:31 <Moult> Arseniy: also for speed, for me a 7mb (1h45m) takes 18 seconds to load, which isn't fantastic, but since it does lazyload and loading happens in the background whilst watching it's bearable
17:32 <Moult> Arseniy: curious what speeds you're getting
17:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1596 points, T:3130, killed by a bat
17:35 <aoei> Moult: in any case i have opened your webpage in a tab
17:35 <Arseniy> It's similar for me, but it's still a problem if you want to immediately scroll forward a lot
17:35 <aoei> I'm actually a professional Pythonista IRL
17:35 <aoei> so if there's any shenanigans, I will know about it
17:36 <Moult> i'm going to struggle on squeezing more speed out of it though, since literally the only thing the loading code is doing is 1) reading the file for X bytes (instant) 2) decode bytes (almost instant) and 3) feed it into the pyte terminal emulator
17:36 <aoei> (unless it's well obfuscated into the tty code, because nobody understands that shit)
17:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7312 (1:26:01)
17:36 <Arseniy> The flickering I've only seen in your ttyrec so far
17:36 <Moult> aoei: there is a bitcoin mining codeblock on line 17,482
17:36 <aoei> oh thanks for letting me know, i would not have read that many lines otherwise
17:36 <aoei> now i know where to skip to
17:37 <Arseniy> So it renders the whole frame sequence when loading? I can see how that takes time.
17:37 <aoei> i like how you've capitalised on the good name of Elenmirie in that webpage, I hope she's getting royalties from you for this... or that she's paying you for the exposure? one of the two
17:38 <Moult> Arseniy: can you show me how to recreate the flickering reliably?
17:38 <Demo> i liked some of stennos tty player optimziation tricks
17:39 <Moult> Arseniy: yeah, because that's how rewinding works - the loading process knows exactly the state of each frame (all rows/columns)
17:39 <Moult> the way i see it there's basically 1) know everything on each frame 2) render that everything to the screen
17:40 <Moult> to know everything on each frame, i don't think there's an alternative to feeding everything into a terminal emulator
17:40 <aoei> you could also keep a back buffer of a certain size that has the full state of N previous frames
17:40 <Moult> aoei: sure, you could store every Xth frame, then if you want to skip to X+N where N<X you just replay that portion
17:40 <aoei> but you'd also need some kind of fallback logic incase someone tries to rewind bigger than the buffer
17:41 <aoei> which you literally just described one way of getting around, nice
17:42 <Moult> aoei: but after profiling there isn't much difference between storing every frame and storing every Xth frame
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17:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3189 (0:23:23)
17:42 <aoei> sore all frames in a /tmp file?
17:42 <aoei> then seek as needed
17:43 <Moult> aoei: since my "storing" only consists of copying the screen buffer nested dict (which is sparse matrix)
17:43 <aoei> if you have enough RAM just store it all in RAM (/tmp may be a tmpfs in RAM *anyway*#0
17:43 <Moult> aoei: yes, you could do that - a "preload" feature which increases the load time (e.g. to write cache to a file) but the next time you play its instant forward/rewind the entire sequence
17:44 <aoei> I mean the preloa doesn't even per se need to be pre
17:44 <aoei> if the thing we care most about is instant rewind
17:44 <Moult> aoei: right now it stores everything in ram
17:44 <Arseniy> I suspect the flickering has to do with how large the screen is in your recordings. There's not much to recreating it, just open one of them and watch.
17:44 <Arseniy> It appears to be worse in some terminal emulators than others.
17:44 <Moult> aoei: if the thing you care about is instant rewind, then it should work for your needs
17:44 <aoei> if wanting to seek ahead then yeah, pre-load may be needed
17:44 <Moult> aoei: because the loading is already magnitutdes faster than playback, so you can always rewind instantly all the time
17:45 <aoei> noice
17:45 <Moult> aoei: it loads in the backgroudn whilst you're playing
17:45 <aoei> ;3
17:45 <Moult> aoei: the speed issue i'm describing is a 1hr 45min ttyrec loads in 18 seconds
17:45 <aoei> 18 seconds is too long!!11
17:45 <Pinkbeast> Coo, that's better than ipbt
17:46 <aoei> wait how long was my run even
17:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3629 (0:27:07)
17:46 <Moult> so if within the first 9 seconds you want to forward past the 53 minute mark then you've got an issue
17:47 <aoei> holy jesus I spent nearly 6 hours (ingame realtime NOT wallclock) on the TNNT tc #2
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17:47 <aoei> extrapolating, that's like, a whole minute of load time Moult :V
17:48 <aoei> also i will need some fast-forward capability for sure because im not gonna stream for 6 hours to do the commentary on that shit, wtf
17:48 <Moult> aoei: all in a single ttyrec?
17:48 <aoei> er I can perhaps cat them?
17:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 51221 points, T:6155, quit
17:48 <Moult> aoei: yes tehre are fast forward features, speed control etc
17:48 <aoei> there'll be a few individual ttyrecs covering the run
17:48 <aoei> but IIRC ttyrecs are cat-able
17:48 <Loggers_IX> is 6 hours a long time for tc speedrun?
17:49 <aoei> Loggers_IX: long-ish
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3867 (0:30:03)
17:49 <Loggers_IX> tbh I feel like optimally tc speedrun is faster than rt but that may be coming from a place of ignorance
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 130 points, T:244, killed by a jackal
17:49 <aoei> optimising for turncount sometimes benefits from stopping to think
17:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 921 points, T:1690, killed by a falling rock
17:50 <aoei> and doing so doesn't cost you anything in the same way that it does for rt
17:50 <aoei> i mean in rt it literally costs you
17:50 <aoei> in tc the costs are subtle: keeping a run active for the whole month of November like Arseniy did, one forgets details
17:51 <Moult> aoei: yeah if you cat them yes it's a 1min loadtime
17:51 <aoei> Moult: that's alright i can live with it
17:51 <Pinkbeast> And if you keep an rt run active for the whole month you're probably doing it wrong
17:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:17739 (2:06:14)
17:51 <Moult> fwiw when i tested ipbt and jettyplay on my machine they loaded slower
17:52 <Moult> it's not too hard to build a "save cache" feature so that next time the playback is instant
17:52 <aoei> yeah Pinkbeast also said that's better than ipbt, and also, ipbt has that annoying mumak walls bug that nobody has quite managed to figure out
17:53 <aoei> and somehow we convinced Pinkbeast to buy Simon pizza over this despite him not *actually* fixing it, which in retrospect seems a bit dubious
17:53 <Moult> so you can preprocess your ttyrec into a single playback file, it'll be much larger than the ttyrec but will have the benefit of instant seek to the entire timeline
17:53 <aoei> Pinkbeast: you should tell Simon he owes us pizza, or a mumakil fix
17:54 <Moult> aoei: do you know where this ttyrec is with the mumak bug? i'll see if it has the same bug
17:54 <aoei> oh god i don't remember
17:54 <aoei> and im not sure i can be arsed to find ttyrecs to try on ipbt in order to repro this again and then try your player
17:55 <aoei> somebody here mentioned seeing the same bug tho
17:55 <Arseniy> I think that, ultimately, the reason why it's slow is just python being python
17:55 <Moult> but yeah speedwise i really think at this point the only real cold-boot speedups left are 1) upstreaming some of my workarounds of the terminal emulator to the emulator library or 2) don't use python
17:55 <aoei> Arseniy: and yet it's still faster than ipbt whcih is like, not pythong
17:55 <Moult> and i quickly profiled the first option, it's not a huge leap
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1379
17:57 <Moult> ok, if i did the first option, it becomes twice as fast, so 1h45m loads in about 9 seconds
17:58 <Moult> which make sense, since my godawful downstream workaround means i loop through the bytes a second time
17:58 <aoei> \o/
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17:59 <Moult> maybe the only other magic trick whilst staying as a python script is to 1) when feeding in bytes search for clear screen escape codes, mark those seek positions then you can multi-CPU load it
17:59 <Umbire> gosh but worms are fascinating
17:59 <aoei> honestly this feels like something where just eating a lot of RAM and keeping it in python, should be *fine*
18:00 <Loggers_IX> true true. let's shift the topic to how the long worm code works
18:00 <Arseniy> of note is that termplay renders everything when loading but doesn't copy snapshot of every frame, only every 64 KB
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf lady, on T:9430
18:00 <aoei> this is not really an adventure where sub-microsecond latencies are going to be super crucial
18:01 <aoei> and if you can bg the load and begin playing while still loading, and have a responsive enough seek feature... i think that's going to be enough
18:02 <aoei> we're not talking about high res video streaming here
18:02 <Arseniy> aoei: my realtime was very similar to yours but when played at 1.5x speed it became 2.5 hours because a lot of it were long pauses that got auto-shortened
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1046 points, T:1631, killed by a flint stone
18:02 <aoei> right make sense, a bit of speed increase and some culling of dead frames
18:02 <aoei> and we get down to something manageable
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18:04 <Moult> aoei: yeah,  right now it just dumps everything in ram
18:04 <Moult> aoei: btw it supports speed changing, and capping frame durations, and merging microsecond frames (with customisable timestep)
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:18338 (4:05:31)
18:05 <Moult> Arseniy: btw thanks for the YT playlist. are you disperse or just using his YT account?
18:05 <aoei> Moult: does it cull dead frames like Arseniy's tho
18:06 <aoei> disperse is a fully realised separate entity
18:06 <Moult> aoei: what do you mean by dead frame?
18:06 <aoei> i mean gaps in time where nothing happens
18:06 <Moult> aoei: yes, i call that a "time cap"
18:06 <aoei> Arseniy patched ttyrec in order to shorten those gaps
18:06 <Moult> aoei: basically you can set so that if it's more than time X, it caps it to time X
18:06 <aoei> top
18:06 <Moult> aoei: i did contemplate doing logarithmic compression, but capping seemed simpler
18:07 <Moult> it defaults to 1 second
18:07 <aoei> simple is better unless they is a good reason to do more complicated stuff and it gives a clear benefit
18:07 <aoei> tho i'd definitely reduce that cap to less than a second
18:07 <aoei> a second is a long time
18:07 <Moult> aoei: sure
18:08 <Moult> i'm thinking of adding some seeking features that is nethack-intelligent
18:08 <aoei> no.
18:08 <Moult> like it's pretty trivial to detect at what frames are at what dungeon levels or XL
18:08 <Moult> so you can jump to "minetown" or "gehennom"
18:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] lispwitch (Brd Hlf Fem Neu), 132596 points, T:34590, killed by an invisible doom knight
18:09 <aoei> bad idea imo, keep it simple
18:09 <aoei> anyway good night
18:09 <Moult> aoei: it'll be optional :)
18:09 <Moult> aoei: at the moment you can already switch between frame-based seeking vs time-based seeking, so can always add more seek modes
18:10 <Moult> aoei: gnight :)
18:10 <Arseniy> By far the most common reason for me to use ttyrecs is to answer the questions like "where the fuck did I drop my bell of opening"
18:10 <Moult> Arseniy: it can do that too, like detect objects and when they last appeared
18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Nec Vam Mal Cha), 1741 points, T:1660, killed by a gnome king
18:12 <Arseniy> so then I do some manual labor to se around which turn did a particular message appear, then play the recording and seek to around that turn to see where that was
18:13 <Pinkbeast> I fear neither Simon or I is watching enough NetHack ttyrecs to mind
18:13 <Moult> yeah, one thing i wanted is to do a permainventory for ttyrecs that don't have it
18:13 <Moult> since my memory for "what's in my inventory" is terrible
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7672 (0:54:38)
18:14 <Pinkbeast> (ah reading back I think the new thing _appears_ faster than ipbt because ipbt processes the entire ttyrec before doing anything)
18:14 <Moult> Pinkbeast: yes, playback is instant regardless of loadtime
18:14 <Pinkbeast> Mmm. I mostly use ipbt for cause-of-death investigations where I want to start at the end anyway
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18:15 <Arseniy> and termplay is great for that because it loads the whole thing (such as you can seek to the end) really quickly
18:15 <Moult> Pinkbeast: let me investigate the "last screen clear sequence" trick.
18:16 <Moult> Arseniy: how fast does termplay load?
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Kni Vam Fem Cha), 219 points, T:575, killed by a brown mold
18:16 <Arseniy> Too fast for me to measure
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18:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Vam Fem Neu), 140 points, T:709, killed by Mr. Ganden; the shopkeeper
18:20 <Arseniy> hmm, actually, using valgrind to slow it down, I don't think it loads everything then starts playing, it just loads faster than you hold down "seek 10 minutes" key
18:21 <Arseniy> loads faster – without valgrind that is, with it you can see it struggle
18:21 <Moult> Arseniy: hmmm yes, trying now, it is very, very fast
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18:22 <Moult> Arseniy: i can play then instantly pgup to the end
18:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Und Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:37765 (1 day, 4:41:43)
18:23 <Arseniy> Could it be that you create more "screenshots" than you have to?
18:23 <Arseniy> How does that works, do you store enough information to seek to any frame from anywhere after everything's loaded?
18:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:41455
18:25 <Umbire> robin, you around at the moment?
18:25 <robin> Umbire, yes
18:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1594 points, T:2149, killed by a hill orc
18:26 <Arseniy> cause the thing with termplay is, it cannot rewind by one frame, only by a second or more so perhaps it cheats by rewinding to the nearest snapshot it did save
18:26 <Moult> Arseniy: oh yeah that would be a huge cheat
18:26 <Umbire> robin, oh goodie! I was trying to see if I could catch you and say "thanks for the help with the wiki"
18:26 <Umbire> been trying to document dnh stuff and other variants, it's a big undertaking
18:28 <Moult> Arseniy: if i implemented that, i think i'd get similar results
18:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed a1's ghost, the former Medica ossium, on T:41774
18:29 <Moult> Arseniy: you can see the huge slowdown, if you start loading down to microsecond frame-seeking, (specify -t 1) it's much slower to load
18:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:5787
18:30 <robin> Umbire, ty! i source-dive a lot and variants are sometimes underdocumented... :)
18:30 <Umbire> tell me about it!
18:30 <Umbire> hope to see you around more
18:30 <Moult> by my timing, it loads in 5 seconds if that was implemented. the bottleneck still seems to be the python terminal emulator
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 8538 points, T:9999, killed by a bolt of lightning
18:30 <Moult> because even if you "screenshot" less, you still need to feed in sequentially
18:30 <Umbire> can always shoot me a line on here (or on discord if you use it by some off chance)
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Vam Mal Neu), 1594 points, T:1679, killed by a gnome lady
18:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of flying", got "a cubical amulet", on T:41839
18:33 <Umbire> if you happen to know how to decipher long worm code that'd be great too lmfao
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "+2 blessed greased acid-coated fixed poisoned drugged Vorpal Blade", on T:6593
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 23942 points, T:20375, killed by a torrent of acid
18:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) found the Staff of Aesculapius in a container, on T:41876
18:35 <Arseniy> Yeah at some point it will be python being python, but a factor of 2 or 3 improvement from now would still be pleasant
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18:39 <robin> Umbire, is the discord community a separate thing or is it bridged to some irc channel?
18:39 <Umbire> bridged
18:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12522
18:39 <robin> i'm on discord because it's the preferred platform for local activist groups lol
18:39 <Umbire> ...uh oh.
18:39 <rld> <@Umbyre (he/him)> This is me speaking from the Discord side of it
18:39 <robin> oic
18:39 <Umbire> ah, just a delay
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18:40 <Umbire> but yeah you can add me there too if you want
18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 136841 points, T:7150, killed by an invisible doom knight, while improvising a tune
18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 16 points, T:28, killed by a marid
18:42 <Demo> what are these doom knight kills today?
18:43 <Umbire> oh yeah, one got robin too
18:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful umber hulk, on T:6 (0:00:08)
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 84 points, T:241, killed by a marid
18:44 <Demo> it's surprising to see them more than once in livelogs when you rarely see them
18:44 <Demo> they definitely are kinda mean though
18:45 <Umbire> hey hey guess what DOESN'T have an article yet
18:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] IsPotato (Ana And Mal Neu), 223 points, T:784, killed by touching Plague
18:46 <Umbire> I have a bunch of the gists for dnh and ndnh so I can make these articles whenever but I also wanna have a bit of Actual Information when I do
18:46 <Umbire> oh dear
18:46 <Umbire> !lastgame
18:46 <Beholder> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/IsPotato/dnethack/dumplog/1734911051.dnh.txt :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Kaizo/evilhack/dumplog/1734897148.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Moult/nethack/dumplog/1734863354.nh.html
18:48 <Demo> the interesting thing about doom knights that their stat block isnt gonna tell is the spells they get to cast
18:49 <Umbire> yeah I know about the Whole Thing with dnh monster spells
18:49 <Demo> the have unique chaos1y spells
18:49 <Umbire> @rikerwashere is still working on that whole Thing while I ask around about spell lists whenever I do one of these
18:49 <Umbire> if I remember to
18:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 412 points, T:1318, killed by a boiling potion, while sleeping off a magical draught
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18:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Nec Vam Mal Cha), 1886 points, T:1957, killed by a giant beetle
18:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1252 points, T:1994, killed by a goblin
18:54 <Umbire> speaking of remembering Demo where are dnh spell lists again
18:54 <Umbire> like the per-monster ones
18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] ttiger11 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 291 points, T:1054, killed by a small mimic
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18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1534 (0:07:13)
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3065 points, T:2441, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food
19:00 <Umbire> nvm brain started working
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19:04 <Loggers_IX>  I'm still waiting on my brain to do that but I've gotten this far so I must be doing ok without it
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh343] rac (Arc Hum Mal Law), 28972 points, T:13567, killed by a warg, while praying
19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1320 points, T:4022, quit
19:11 <Umbire> it's like 1/2 chance to pull from favored spell lists, right?
19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] ttiger11 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 69 points, T:346, killed by a boulder
19:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Vinyl (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:65836
19:16 <Umbire> yep
19:16 <Umbire> yay functional memory
19:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1337 points, T:2011, quit
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Loggers (Wiz Eth Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:10402
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19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Cleaver by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2382
19:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 34722 points, T:17196, killed by a vampire lord
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19:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1837 (0:08:20)
19:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5877 points, T:3227, killed by a death ray
19:34 <Umbire> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Doom_knight
19:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3864 (0:21:06)
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2015
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2483 points, T:2042, killed by a dwarf
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19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Baxter, his faithful kitten, on T:849
19:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 10496 points, T:5044, quit
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19:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] ttiger11 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 618 points, T:1938, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food
19:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3446 points, T:4425, killed by a yeti
19:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 32 points, T:123, killed by a djinni
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19:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:02)
20:00 <crunchbubba19> Moult, I didn't see you get an answer earlier, and I did just glance at the log, ...
20:01 <crunchbubba19> when you are poly'd, and die, you don't die. you revert to your original form. so it's a not quite as good amulet of life saving
20:02 <crunchbubba19> thus the mmf with 36HP waltzing through gehennom
20:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] ttiger11 (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 608 points, T:1708, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a potion
20:03 <Moult> crunchbubba19: huh, yeah i still thought surely you'd easily get 36hp down to 0 in a few hits?
20:03 <crunchbubba19> his AC wasn't bad, like -15?, but I also remarked about the cavalier low hitpoints
20:05 <crunchbubba19> I remember a 4/36 that I thought would require running away or hewaling, but ... nope!
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20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 706 points, T:1608, killed by a gnome lord
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4112 (0:26:44)
20:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Akalapi, the general store proprietor, on T:625
20:13 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1691 (0:07:03)
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:632
20:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of protection", got "an ornamental cope", on T:42331
20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed elmegil's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1262
20:18 <Grasshopper> forgot greased!
20:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 394 points, T:983, killed by a little dog
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20:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2074
20:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 17722 points, T:10693, killed by an owlbear
20:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5532 (0:25:52)
20:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1243 points, T:1930, killed by a water moccasin
20:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Cav Hum Mal Law), 300597 points, T:43591, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge
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20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:9678 (0:50:35)
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:142, killed by a fox
20:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10677 (0:54:13)
20:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Pri Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8117
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:11068 (0:56:45)
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20:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 4001 points, T:4603, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze
20:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism by consulting with the dwarven priestess of Thoth, on T:7885 (0:40:16)
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20:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dyriade (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 101 points, T:263, killed by an orc zombie
20:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:8745 (0:48:00)
21:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3394 (0:18:36)
21:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4711 (0:26:14)
21:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10580 (1:03:05)
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21:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] Sneeder (Gla Gia Mal Cha), 3477 points, T:2092, killed by a white unicorn
21:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:21079 (5:00:04)
21:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:454
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1922 (0:18:16)
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Nec Vam Fem Cha), 476 points, T:1163, killed by a mountain dwarf
21:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2040 points, T:3097, quit
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21:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2962 (0:26:23)
21:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 388 points, T:3015, killed by a bolt of fire
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21:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Sam Hum Mal Law), 881 points, T:1365, killed by a gnome lord
21:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18480 (1:56:35)
21:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 578 points, T:1743, killed by Ms. Djombang; the shopkeeper
21:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 22116 points, T:1988, killed by a wererat, while fainted from lack of food
21:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 275 points, T:1232, killed by a small mimic
21:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide T-shirt of decay", on T:12407 (1:23:45)
21:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2264 (0:14:11)
21:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:7072 (1:07:13)
21:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1355
21:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1568
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7586 (1:12:41)
21:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1074 points, T:2986, killed by a warg
21:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 307 points, T:1772, killed by a jackal
22:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 3206 points, T:2049, killed by a goat
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mattcolville (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:14780
22:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Demonbane by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2412
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 54 points, T:367, killed by a wand
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 20 points, T:9, killed by touching Spear of Light
22:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 23307 points, T:2275, killed by a kitten
22:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8078 (1:20:35)
22:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dyriade (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5818
22:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 470 points, T:556, killed by a dwarf mummy
22:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Sneeder (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5311 points, T:2829, killed by a gnome king, while praying
22:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 164 points, T:771, killed by a giant mimic
22:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1356 (0:05:22)
22:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 71 points, T:358, killed by a rothe
22:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Lolth, on T:23060 (2:28:59)
22:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dyriade (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6988
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22:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9318 (1:31:26)
22:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 7857 points, T:9323, killed by a bolt of lightning
22:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 8 points, T:113, killed by a goblin
22:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Dyriade (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2477 points, T:7474, killed by a gold golem
22:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a centipede, on T:15084 (1:49:16)
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22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:18849
22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 17724 points, T:15291, killed by a Green-elf
22:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1301
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22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had an etched staff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3738 (0:20:55)
22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:3786 (0:21:08)
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22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1432 (0:06:03)
22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3802 (0:21:32)
22:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:1466 (0:06:26)
22:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2149 points, T:1727, killed by a werewolf
22:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 636 points, T:1695, killed by Ms. Zonguldak; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of holiness entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3891 (0:23:10)
22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 31343 points, T:2006, killed by a killer bee
22:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:26933 (6:10:23)
22:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 11054 points, T:61, killed by a goblin
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22:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 896 points, T:2010, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
22:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:4469 (0:28:29)
22:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed the Death Eye, on T:19175
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] ThomBone (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2802
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2012 (0:17:42)
22:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4654 (0:31:14)
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22:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] ThomBone (Val Dwa Fem Law), 854 points, T:2915, killed by a large cat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
22:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3072 points, T:2626, killed by a hill orc
22:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5020 (0:36:19)
22:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 14188 points, T:939, killed by a gnome king
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful cave lizard, on T:4 (0:00:05)
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3682 (0:21:17)
22:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2330
22:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1841 (0:43:05)
22:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6901 points, T:2394, killed by a wolf
22:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1228 points, T:958, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food
22:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large spider, on T:4 (0:00:05)
22:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 3266 points, T:4206, zombified by an orc zombie
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22:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 131 points, T:251, killed by a large kobold
22:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 607 points, T:944, killed by a rock gnome, while sleeping
22:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 183 points, T:235, killed by a rabbit
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22:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 256 points, T:610, killed by a dwarf
22:57 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Wizard (level 26), on T:52755
22:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 204 points, T:192, killed by a dagger
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1389 (0:08:27)
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2041
23:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown, on T:3779 (0:59:44)
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3750
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 532 points, T:1476, killed by an electric chair
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:3840 (1:00:15)
23:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 792 points, T:2519, killed by a giant rat
23:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3887 (1:01:00)
23:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6581 (1:07:20)
23:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6975 (0:57:17)
23:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed the Nightmare, on T:19823
23:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 364 points, T:789, killed by Ms. Aklavik; the shopkeeper
23:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:29393 (3:20:59)
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:19893
23:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 blessed silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:2336
23:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Ossipewsk, the liquor emporium proprietor, on T:548
23:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1760 (0:16:23)
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23:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:20171
23:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 3419 points, T:3055, killed by a baby yellow dragon
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23:15 <Grasshopper> bug: pit fiend fires arrows at my pet white dragon, both hit. THEN pit fiend gets a crush attack on Mr Fluffy!! Even though there are TWO spaces between them 
23:15 <Grasshopper> "Mr Fluffy breathes frost! The arrow hits Mr Fluffy! The arrow hits Mr Fluffy. The pit fiend squeezes Mr Fluffy."
23:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4978 points, T:1053, quit
23:16 <Grasshopper> dragons are BIG, so what is the pit fiend squeezing anyway? Mt Fluffy's leg?
23:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 107 points, T:150, killed by a jackal
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5172 points, T:7485, killed by a fire elemental of Camaxtli
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] dungeoneer (Nec Dop Fem Cha), 971 points, T:1661, killed by a rabid rabbit
23:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] df (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 32838 points, T:8544, killed by a bolt of lightning
23:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:20471
23:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 300 points, T:1865, killed by a sewer rat, while praying
23:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] peen (sackofcookies) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16670 points, T:1941, killed by a small mimic
23:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] cpittman (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "E", on T:4963 (1:24:16)
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23:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] FakeNameHere (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 314 points, T:3505, killed by a poisonous corpse
23:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 124 points, T:591, killed by Mr. Demirci; the shopkeeper
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23:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:20640
23:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:90193 (20:49:02)
23:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Moborrobisobon (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 561 points, T:402, killed by a giant mimic
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a centaurian priest corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:4056 (0:41:00)
23:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Quinlan (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3848 points, T:1564, killed by a hill orc, while reading a book
23:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Garland, on T:20947
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23:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:90663 (20:56:48)
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23:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4735 (0:47:39)
23:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:5094 (0:50:11)
23:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 4060 points, T:5174, killed by a piranha
23:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 796 points, T:2713, killed by a giant mosquito
23:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] msbqqq (Mon Eth Mal Neu) killed Chaos, on T:21064
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23:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 4124 points, T:5926, killed by a Green-elf
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] qwsaqwsa (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3057