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I was messing around with it in nerf before I went to evil 09:46 that would make sense 09:48 yeah looks like 3.7, false alarm 09:48 working on some more forge quality stuff 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 35138 points, T:13895, killed by a dwarf queen 09:48 polishing it up 09:48 pre-3.7 they do lose their lycanthropy-conferring ability, and the ability to summon guys, but they can still swap forms 09:48 ah cool 09:48 last night terrapin fixed a couple bugs with it and found a vanilla bug too hah 09:50 we were also discussing ways to make forging superior/exceptional gear not be grindy, testing a solution now 09:51 consider my interest piqued 09:52 new forging stuff is always exciting to me 09:52 also GUARANTEED HAMMER IN GOBLIN TOWN \o/ \o/ \o/ 09:52 i figured you'd be excited just being able to see 'superior' or 'exceptional' label on your weapon hah 09:53 yeah since the blacksmith hammer is the only way you can forge, and there's only the one, and you cant polypile for it. needs to be guaranteed 09:53 doh 09:53 i think you can wish for it 09:53 quick fix - make it an artifact, slap nowish flag on it 09:54 but no... NO NEW ARTIFACTS 09:54 lol 09:54 I can't wait to play a tortle tourist and somehow create a +2 exceptional mithril trident of shock before minetown 09:54 lol 09:55 something you all didnt notice with the initial change to forging 09:55 instead of using #forge, just 'a'pply the blacksmith hammer 09:55 if it's not wielded, you'll auto wield it on apply 09:55 I had assumed the wishability was intentional cuz if it like rusts away or whatever and you can never forge again that's a little mean 09:55 just like when you aply a pick-axe 09:55 oh that is nice 09:56 my fingers appreciate this 09:56 'I had assumed the wishability was intentional cuz if it like rusts away or whatever and you can never forge again that's a little mean' well this is evilhack 09:56 protect your shit 09:56 true, also I kind of like that you have to be really careful with it 09:57 ok lemme test this 09:57 one sec 09:58 should blacksmith's hammer be considered a weapon-tool? I feel like it should be 09:59 i considered that 10:00 it was simpler to just have it be a tool 10:00 it has just one purpose 10:00 first test failed because i forgot my bs hammer wasnt blessed 10:00 blacksmith 10:00 BS 10:00 hahah 10:01 sweet first test passed 10:02 2nd test passed 10:02 3rd test passed 10:04 4th test passed 10:06 how many tests are there :p 10:06 5th and final test passed 10:06 testing all the different scenarios i could think of 10:07 here's what we're adding (this was terrapin's idea) 10:07 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:07 there's still the random chance you get a superior or exceptional forged objects, that doesnt go away 10:07 however 10:08 if both of your 2 objects have an enchantment of +5/+6, you are guarnteed a superior forged object 10:08 if both objects have +7 or greater, guaranteed exceptional forged obj 10:08 the cost? the output is +0 10:09 probably toss in 'if both objects are -x are less, guaranteed inferior obj' 10:09 *or 10:10 oh also 10:10 should probably add a thing, if both objects are superior, guarantee superior with a chance of exceptional 10:11 and if both are exceptional, guarantee exceptional 10:11 heh i keep thinking of ways to change this as i type 10:12 oho that is cool 10:12 my forging is gonna go crazy next version 10:13 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:13 what about for armor? 10:15 hehehe YANI: druids get penalized for wearing dragonhide stuff, cuz killing and wearing dragons is mean 10:17 same rules for armor as weapons 10:17 oh but armor typically doesnt go above +5 10:17 yeah 10:17 except like elven stuff 10:18 and a lot of that you cant forge 10:18 druids dont feel bad about killing dragons. they arent woodland animal 10:20 ok i changed the threshold enchantment to be +3 or +5 for superior/exceptional 10:21 so exceptional armor is realistically obtainable 10:21 alright cool 10:21 cost is still +0 enchantment on the output 10:21 re: druids and dragonhide yeah I just don't like dragonhide that one was a reach heh 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:8549 (1:00:45) 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Hum Fem Law), 782 points, T:1539, killed by a gnome lord 10:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:51 <@fubaz> Is it worth wishing for Secespita if I have magicbane as arc? Phasing and reduced spell failure sound really good 10:51 <@fubaz> From staff of archmagi 10:54 yup, esp if you have wishes to burn 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:11442 (1:18:46) 10:58 <@fubaz> Two magic lamps, but it’s quite plausible I get poly control ring very soon 11:00 <@fubaz> Is “shield of reflection of drain resistance” a valid wish? Seems like the reflection is not an oprop although idk how it’s coded 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1534 points, T:3587, killed by a rothe 11:01 <@fubaz> Having extra magic resist sources never hurts. Is secespita wishable by lawfuls? Wasn’t clear 11:04 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 11:07 i can wish for a marker, right? just can't remember and don't want to waste my last wish lol 11:07 I had a stack of smoky potions (hallucination) and was hoping to get a wish but no dice 11:08 sucks. I don't usually use markers much in evilhack, but my game is getting so long i'm forgetting spells... 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 7346 points, T:12052, killed by a piranha 11:08 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:11 @fubaz you can wish for secespita, yes, and you can't wish for a shield of reflection of drain resistance. magical items can't be wished for with object properties (though there's a tiny chance they can randomly generate with them) 11:11 rebatela: yeah you can wish markers 11:11 thanks yeah i started thinking about it and realized i was just being dumb lol 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Val Hum Fem Law), 1915 points, T:2693, killed by a rabid rat 11:11 I know they aren't randomly generated or poly'd for etc. 11:17 yeah you can only find them in specific special levels or wish for them 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 280 points, T:644, killed by a large kobold, while frozen by a trap 11:23 thanks Loggers_VIII 11:23 had to step away 11:25 fasho 11:26 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2642/source 11:26 wonder where mobileuser is today 11:27 huh yeah, now that you mention it 11:27 perhaps the dishes are especially fiendish today 11:28 qt too 11:28 it's been a couple weeks at least 11:29 are you on a glorious quest to clean the dining equipment of doom? 11:29 hah 11:29 The Salad Bowl of Bhaak 11:30 epic artifact bowl that automagically seasons every salad with italian dressing 11:33 only if it's blessed 11:34 non-cursed gives you french dressing and cursed it will pour ketchup over your salad 11:43 YANI: artifacts have different invoke effects while confused 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:78581 (1 day, 6:15:37) 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3646 points, T:3797, killed by a gnoll hunter 11:49 speaking of werefoo, was writing up one of umbire's YANIs for the archive. the idea was for a new lycanthrope role based around wearing a pelt of a monster to change into a buffed version of that monster. to me, the item concept is more interesting than the role concept, but that might be a way I'd do a druid role 11:50 kill stuff, skin it, then you can change into it 11:53 that's a sick idea 11:55 seems more 'trickster'-y to me than druid or lycanthrope related though 11:56 seems more shaman-y to me than trickster-y, like it's not a thing you'd expect a rogue to do 11:57 unless polymorphing using a pelt makes monsters behave differently, like they think you're one of them and ignore you 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1387 (0:12:11) 11:58 we might be thinking of different types, that's the type of thing trickster guys are doing all the time in stories I hear 11:59 that would be cool for druid though. if you do xnh druid it should be like that 12:01 the reason I'm not in on the lycanthrope role idea (or a lot of new role ideas based around a special item) is the special item still has to be balanced when people wish for it or find it in bones or whatever. in his initial concept, it seems like it would do nothing for other people 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 1922 points, T:2918, killed by a piranha 12:03 I mean you could make skinning monsters a mechanic (maybe an extended command with success rate tied to, for example, knife skill) and then have pelts grant minor desirable effects aside from just AC depending on monster, but then give lycanthrope an exclusive magical ability to turn into the guys 12:03 it does seem more appropriate for druid, though 12:04 instead of druid, a possibility is extending rangers to be good at this sort of thing 12:05 I mean, it could work for druid, but then the problem is a lot of animals logically won't have pelts 12:05 and you want to turn into a bird or whatever, so you still end up needing some sort of magical wildshape 12:08 oh yeah that's cooler 12:08 rangers? 12:08 yeah rangers 12:08 rangers need a little love I think 12:10 the aosdict experience: figure out how to do cool thing WITHOUT adding a new role/race/monster/object/artifact/etc 12:15 that YANI reminds me of silence of the lambs 12:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvIvR7oiXbI 12:15 it puts the lotion in the basket and does as its told! 12:15 or it gets the hose again 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Inf Hum Fem Una), 549 points, T:837, killed by a bugbear 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand of lightning 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand of fire 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand of cold 12:29 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:29 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful nightmare, on T:2 (0:00:02) 12:33 found vlads staircase on DL 36 and Graz'zt on DL 37 :( 12:33 that's the one with stealing attack? 12:33 my pets have more max hp than me lol gonna have to fix that first 12:34 grazzt has the seduction theft yeah 12:34 take him seriously. boulder fort or cancel is my recommendation 12:35 yep. I've defeated them before 12:35 usually do boulder and shurikens i think 12:35 but i've also splatted miserably the first x amount of times lol 12:35 I just cancel him and curbstomp his ass in melee 12:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:36 ahhh that's a good idea too 12:36 aaand he's gone 12:36 thanks tho! 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 2904 points, T:2789, killed by handling a battle-axe that was made of iron 12:38 the ONLY Problem with titans for pets is you better keep em on another level if you're doing anything involving a boulder fort... 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:571 (0:01:54) 12:40 oh he has Dirge 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:79090 (1 day, 6:35:02) 12:41 and a shield of reflection 12:41 (had) 12:42 NOW i can bring the titans down 12:43 is it possible for one of the titans to wield Dirge? Is it just for evil knights or something? 12:44 one of them has been kicking ass with +6 firebrand, the other has +5 trollsbane currently and i want to upgrade... It's more about the spellcasting they do from a distance 12:45 oh and they cast reflection on themselves which is huge 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 908 points, T:3018, killed by the Goblin King 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:605 (0:02:44) 13:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:00 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 515 points, T:1022, killed by a bolt of cold 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:841 (0:04:32) 13:06 the thing i need to remind myself of (and keep forgetting) is that i don't have to worry about making coming back up through gehennom safe/convenient because it all gets skipped! 13:07 I'm killing all these ; on the level that used to be demogorgon's but is just randomized, but it has a zillion eels and kraken that I've always killed so i wouldn't get sucked down and drown when i was coming back up with the amulet 13:07 but there's no need now! cuz we come out at the castle 13:10 <@Loggers_XI> rebatela: dirge is chaotic so I believe titans won’t wield it (they’re lawful) 13:10 yeah exactly. thanks 13:12 <@Loggers_VIII> if you do have to melee Graz’zt it’s kinda nasty because even though he will fail a seduction attempt, he still teleports away (and then teleports right back to you) so he had to miss before you can hit him. basically he hits you way more than you can hit him most of the time 13:13 <@Loggers_VIII> monk should be able to just shuriken of course 13:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:21 loggers_vIII yeah i already did shuriken him :) 13:23 i'm doing great just having a long game so i'm forgetting spells... also i'm relying on spellcasting for reflection, which is fine because I have the Eota (but i have to remember to keep casting it) 13:23 just found the VS.. I just have to do Vlad 13:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3191 (0:17:59) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 2413 points, T:3037, killed by touching Dramborleg 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:367 (0:02:45) 13:32 spell memory is such an annoying and unnecessary mechanic 13:33 <@fubaz> I like it. I don’t like how you have nine billion spells in gnollhack that you never forget plus have to periodically craft 13:34 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:34 Yea but theres a line between spells and wands that should be defined. Otherwise, spells make wands totally negligible since most spells replicate wand effects. They are basically infinite wands anyway 13:35 I would prefer if you never naturally forgot spells but could still use amnesia to do it 13:36 hackemslashem: follow the consumable renewable principle and make wands do things spells can't, or nerf the spells to be inferior to the wands 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1066 (0:08:18) 13:37 aosdict: precisely, a handful of spells were nerfed in nerf already to follow that 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4733 (0:29:03) 13:38 also make me not forget spells because nethack has enough tedious inventory management minigames as it is 13:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:38 Someone here, krm I think had an interesting spreadsheet of spell nerfs which was really nicely done 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (mind flayers), on T:1126 (0:09:55) 13:40 <@Loggers_VIII> I think it was that the spells were usually nerfed at unskilled but gained power as you leveled up the skill. some spells already work like this but it’s not the standard 13:40 Yea it's in the etherpad, I need to take another look through of that later 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1378 points, T:1234, killed by a piranha 13:42 Most of the ideas on that sheet I'm on-board with, but implementing them all would take a while. 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:596 (0:02:32) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 485 points, T:1318, killed by a wererat 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:730 (0:03:25) 13:52 i keep forgetting i can branchport! I used to wish for eota all the time in vanilla, but rarely do in evil 13:53 i love it though.. take one step into vlads and then when I actually want to do the branch just warp there 13:53 i would play wizards if they weren't so squishy 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 1310 points, T:1723, killed by a piranha 14:06 + 14:06 + 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2033 (1:35:37) 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3038 (1:44:22) 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:811 (0:04:43) 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2573 points, T:1820, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping 14:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant centipede, on T:9375 (1:18:49) 14:33 EvilHack Commits: Various quality objects can be purposely forged. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/f2e8d39270fcc5c7449ae7aa50762aaff15fdf0a 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:61470 (1 day, 3:39:51) 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:61470 (1 day, 3:40:00) 14:35 that last one is for Dagul 14:36 she can't use a silver SoR 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10396 (1:27:03) 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1121 (0:06:54) 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 3390 points, T:1175, killed by a piranha 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 leather robe", on T:10827 (1:31:17) 14:42 EvilHack Commits: Prevent wishing for the Blacksmith hammer. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/24dc882809784c958312a576cce2e5dc73ef4c6e 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 282 points, T:607, killed by an electric shock 14:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:55 nooo k2 now i have to understand all the new blacksmith logic :-) 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:12701 (1:47:18) 14:57 so i can force a stack of superior shuriken, but not a stack of exceptional shuriken 15:01 you could with stacks of +7 ingredients. but it would be more resource-intensive 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:13660 (1:53:25) 15:04 oh, that was left out of the notes, but the comment says 7 or greater but the code says 5 or greater (k2 may want to correct one way or the other) 15:05 also probably the first condition for exceptional should be forged_qual <= FQ_SUPERIOR, not FQ_NORMAL 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1719 (0:12:18) 15:24 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 15:24 oops yeah various enchantments were floated at different times so i guess they got mixed up at some point. good point about the forged_qual <= FQ_SUPERIOR 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9843 points, T:4279, killed by a piranha 15:28 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17375 (2:23:11) 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:18538 (2:33:53) 15:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:19171 (2:37:58) 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 33 points, T:104, killed by an exploding rune 16:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3026 points, T:4218, killed by a gold golem, while fainted from lack of food 16:16 hmm 16:16 I think I shall work on evil drider today 16:16 -!- mobileuser46 has joined #evilhack 16:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2586 points, T:1261, zombified by a drow zombie 16:24 curious, same nutrition as a gargantuan spider 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 586 points, T:1795, killed by Mr. Siirt; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 16:28 yup i see it 16:28 doh 16:28 and commit notes are correct, comment in code is wrong 16:29 -!- ginebig has joined #evilhack 16:29 -!- ginebig has quit [Changing host] 16:29 -!- ginebig has joined #evilhack 16:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ginebig!~ginebig@user/meow/Loggers-VIII:19959))] 16:29 -!- ginebig is now known as Loggers_VIII 16:30 ? 16:30 only comment I see is about Grasshopper for the giant pede below 16:31 oh you prob. mean blacksmith stuff 16:37 yup 16:37 adjustment inbound 16:41 EvilHack Commits: Fix: logic with purposely forging quality objects. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/22f1a654def959bd26c7cd0ed3a8604af394d2ed 16:43 im sure you already did this, but just to be sure since you swapped around your enum :-) forgequality is being explicitly set to FQ_NORMAL in non-forged items? 16:43 rather than just being zero? 16:50 already unfucking myself 16:50 one moment 16:52 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 16:58 -!- mobileuser46 is now known as mobileuser 17:00 EvilHack Commits: Fix: more forged quality logic. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/dc2a4184d23bb974cf0bde0b9e1f289a90b7fbe7 17:00 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01 ^ krm26 there ya go 17:01 terrapin pointed out the same thing almost immediately heh 17:01 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 17:03 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:03 seriously. i am making some dumb mistakes today 17:03 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 17:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:04 commit stuff to a feature branch and then squish down all your fixups before rebasing/merging into master 17:04 clean healthy commit history 17:05 well that's not good 17:05 how will people see all the mistakes i made leading up? 17:10 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:12 K2, drider are always hostile even with drow, yeah? 17:12 i think so 17:19 EvilHack Commits: Restructure how blacksmith hammer is made unwishable https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9d31c1e872d96441f71d7942fe8ce30721b735fd 17:49 K2, seems to be the case from makemon.c 17:49 nothing singling out drider as peaceful to drow 17:51 kk 17:54 terrapin, if you can verify that since you know code much better 17:54 I'll move on to their starting inventory 17:55 yeah drider dont like drow and vice versa 17:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:04 yeah driders are M2_HOSTILE which means they are always hostile 18:05 yeah but I'd thought there was some case for drow interactions or something 18:05 look in mon.c 18:06 ah yeah no such interaction for drider 18:06 only infidel-demon, drow-Lolth, and draugr-undead interactions (partially) override M2_HOSTILE 18:10 right right 18:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:80606 (1 day, 7:32:45) 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:80608 (1 day, 7:32:56) 18:31 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drider_(EvilHack) 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2741 (0:14:49) 18:33 now to fish out some more info 18:33 neat 18:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:36 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril elven dagger on an altar, on T:3393 (0:18:46) 18:41 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 18:41 Loggers_VIII, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Drider_(EvilHack) 18:41 still workin' on it but just as an fyi 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:4242 (0:29:38) 18:50 drider generate normally for non-drow right? 18:50 dunno where I got the idea they only generate for drow 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 634 points, T:2024, killed by Ms. Artvin; the shopkeeper 18:52 umbire: putting in a spot in my head where I won't forget 18:52 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53 also yes they do 18:53 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class m), on T:6367 (0:42:17) 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class m, on T:6368 (0:42:22) 18:59 also they don't have an encyclopedia entry which is slightly odd 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 48 points, T:61, killed by a goblin 19:03 anyway onward to large/gargantuan spiders 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:6959 (0:47:01) 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 504 points, T:1820, killed by a wererat 19:07 heh 19:11 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2047 (0:21:25) 19:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:26 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] benabhi (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1124 points, T:2758, killed by an acid blob 19:32 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2948 points, T:2679, killed by a kobold shaman 19:38 EvilHack Commits: Allow armor and weapons to randomly spawn with various levels of qual… https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/d2509f67355c4622a063642cffee346ee059f7fd 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1465 (0:11:39) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1608 points, T:2733, killed by a piranha 20:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:13 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Mon Gia Fem Law), 24577 points, T:11167, killed by a tortle priest of Chih Sung-tzu, while paralyzed by a monster 20:17 EvilHack Commits: Object build quality affects its price. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/319f8c2d228645273e251588333ce998cba01726 20:17 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 20:27 K2, driders' web-spit always creates a web at the target square it lands on, right? 20:27 or does it have to hit a monster 20:27 good question 20:27 i wanna say it has to hit 20:28 just like spit venom, you dont see globs of it laying around 20:28 but, lemme test that 20:31 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:34 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:35 Umbire balls of webbing have to hit a monster/you 20:35 I see 20:36 trying to see if that's the case for *dnh stuff 20:37 specifically the web spit driders use 20:41 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 20:42 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 20:45 oh, can Glamdring free you from a web in one turn the same as Sting can? 20:54 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:04 no 21:06 man the shopkeepers are really overvaluing (or undervaluing for cheapass stuff like an iron dart) superior and exceptional equipment compared to how they price enchantment 21:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 etched crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:4236 (1:25:51) 21:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:4314 (1:26:18) 21:30 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 100262 points, T:26856, zombified by a giant zombie 21:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Law), 5866 points, T:5206, killed by an orc shaman 21:36 krm26 :P 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1264 points, T:1115, killed by a rock gnome 21:39 neat, driders being s fall under the free house rule 21:40 free house? 21:43 snakes and spiders created at level gen get items to hide under 21:43 even if they're not hiders 21:43 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/makemon.c#L3385 21:45 hrm 21:45 driders arent supposed to hide under anything 21:45 they don't 21:45 item still generates though 21:45 i see 21:45 that is a bug 21:45 categorically yeah 21:46 but it means lotsa loot in certain quests too 21:46 also has the effect of making it look like certain spiders built their webs with the item in it as "bait" 21:46 or just found it comfy enough 21:46 perhaps 21:47 fascinating environmental storytelling and it's mostly an accident 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:43714 (8:00:07) 21:53 Oh, K2, before I forget 21:53 is there a plan to move all this to 3.7 or no 21:53 for sake of asking 21:54 yes there is 21:54 how? no fucking clue 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:45440 (8:04:45) 21:55 yeah genuinely good luck with that 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3546 (0:16:41) 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:3725 (0:18:09) 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:47069 (8:11:41) 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:47370 (8:13:25) 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mimic, on T:5070 (0:29:01) 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10181 points, T:5072, quit 22:08 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 22:09 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 22:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Large_spider 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:49464 (8:26:05) 22:17 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Gargantuan_spider 22:17 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 22:22 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23 wewp 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:50332 (8:36:50) 22:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:40 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:54681 (9:08:41) 23:26 EvilHack Commits: Object build quality vs breakage. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/eec611889feaf980a701b49f8355c799d280b4dd 23:33 ooh this'll prove controversial I bet 23:34 as an aside suggestion, how would it sound to exchange shattering blows for disarming blows if the weapon wouldn't break due to being exceptional? 23:35 that would apply to just build quality 23:35 *to more than 23:35 i'd want to separate a disarm function, not bake it into shattering blow 23:35 hmm 23:35 well 23:35 oh you don't have to bake it in at all 23:36 maybe 23:36 just have it so that if a shatter wouldn't work re: exceptional weapons, make it a chance to disarm instead 23:36 make it a call to the function or what-have-you 23:36 that rule would have to apply to the other types that dont shatter too 23:36 which in practice is... 23:36 artifacts? 23:36 and what else 23:37 you can see it in the last commit i just did 23:38 ah crystal stuff 23:39 going to bed... ugh 23:39 gnite o/ 23:41 nini 23:43 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 23:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack