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HotG 09:54 nope 09:54 just a thing 09:54 made up 09:55 Ah 09:55 Just Keolewa made into an aklys by the metal of the Giantslayer spear(?) 09:55 but what does it harbing 09:56 also curious as to why you picked acid res 09:56 EvilHack Commits: Fix: oversight in rejectcasting() function. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3cacdce0ffb626f6cbbb33de87d6a758a0c986c7 09:57 because we already have a two artifacts that do lightning plus object props 09:57 Umbire it's more of 'giantslayer into an aklys with acid damage/protection' 09:58 there really isnt any keolewa left 09:58 I noticed that, was the root of the curiosity 09:59 more acid damage stuff is always nice, esp. since IIRC you can't oprop that? 09:59 and there's just... 09:59 DIRGE 09:59 right 09:59 no acid oprop (on purpose) 10:01 DIRGE \o/ 10:01 heh 10:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1500 (0:12:55) 10:16 did i miss yet another forging thingy? 10:17 yeah 10:17 I need to expand my monster auditor to include all variants, so you can see what percent of monsters resist things like cold/fire/acid/etc 10:17 check commit history 10:19 For reference in hackem 1.2, 9.89% resisted acid and 8.70% resisted shock 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2251 (0:22:16) 10:24 if harbinger doesnt meet krm26 approval, we'll have to scrap it 10:25 in fact we may have to destroy the entire planet 10:25 giantslayer is an aklys with acid resistance? that seems...fine? 10:25 im not gonna kick it outta bed 10:26 i wish artifact thrown weapons, when they fail their return, were guaranteed to land at your feet 10:26 i always end up turfing them in lava :-) 10:26 acid damage + res 10:27 i want a weapon you can throw around corners! 10:27 boomerang enters chat 10:27 i swear, there is a bunch of code that never gets executed 10:28 so, are you still looking at this upcoming week for druids on hardfought? 10:28 or are you gonna need more time? 10:28 <@hackemslashem> Sad but true 10:29 i may need more time. release this month? all signs point to yes. next week? unclear, try again 10:29 sweet, because im deep in some coding goo, i could use the extra time 10:29 hah 10:29 its all about krm26 :P 10:29 THANK you 10:29 ive been saying that 10:30 lol 10:33 i guess i can trash my keolewa/giantslayer artifact suggestion now 10:33 was a big smop 10:34 hmm 10:34 i wonder... 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 804 points, T:1957, killed by a giant mimic 10:35 nope nm 10:44 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 10:45 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 spear on an altar, on T:3854 (0:47:30) 10:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8267 points, T:4531, killed by a bolt of fire 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven helm entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:37744 (10:09:29) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:38488 (10:24:03) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38489 (10:24:08) 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:38778 (10:27:55) 11:41 working on the altar sac stuff now 11:42 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:39110 (10:32:55) 11:48 K2: Do you know how qt made the windows splash screen graphic for evil? He made one for hackem a while back but since qt's not around I think I need to make my own 11:48 i do not :( 11:49 maybe I can GIMP it somehow... 11:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:27927 (6:46:56) 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:39784 (10:42:34) 11:56 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzewInPpBAw 12:10 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:24 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 12:41 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 12:45 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 13:39 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:45 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3514 (0:33:11) 14:09 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:29 this altar stuff isnt too difficult 14:29 yay 14:30 please do not the altar 14:31 altar alterations! 14:46 hackemslashem: have you considered to !tell qt to spill his secrets regarding the splash screen? 14:47 this way you dont have to be there when he magically appears in a puff of smoke 14:47 lol I didn't 14:47 !tell qt Please let me know how to create the splash screen for the Windows builds. I need a new one for NerfHack - thanks! 14:47 qt shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, hackemslashem. 14:56 are you finally taking my altar camping away from me k2 14:56 kind of 14:56 not taking it away, just wont be as often (for artifacts) 14:57 ahh, awesome, so you are actually giving me MORE altar camping :-) 14:57 no 14:57 500k turn games incoming 14:57 it will defintely be less 14:58 hackemslashem no idea where qt has been, it's going on 2 weeks since i've seen him online 14:58 new years bender 14:59 so the bitfield set for an altar that can produce artifacts or not via saccing, that's all done 15:00 right now i'm trying to work it so in wizmode you can wish for one already 'used' 15:00 i fucking hate objnam.c 15:01 ohh, so you are limiting each altar to one artifact? 15:02 sort of 15:02 it'll be clear when i commit 15:02 boy, if you thought people were pissed to get werebane before :-) 15:03 there will be some balance in this commit, dont you worry 15:03 i never worry, im too dumb 15:03 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 15:04 assume there will be an emote and some sort of obvious difference to a used-up altar for us slow folk 15:04 yes 15:05 that's already complete 15:05 you're already doing what you're doing but i remember we previously briefly talked about, maybe years ago, having to "prep" an altar to make it able to give an artifact by sacrificing a particularly major thing 15:05 lotta devs shifting sacrifice mechanics recently 15:05 exceiting ngl 15:05 like, sac an off-aligned unicorn, then get an artifact chance 15:05 ah 15:05 no i'm not doing anything like that 15:06 i'd love to be able to sacrifice an artifact to get another random artifact. THEN id be happy to get werebane :-) 15:07 all you werebane haters... smh 15:15 i mean, is it both heavy and bad, and is used to make a niche forged item that few builds will want. 15:15 i cant poop on keoleoeoeelwlewa any more because you've made harbinger 15:16 there will always be SOMEONE picked for the last person on the dodgeball team 15:16 yup 15:17 krm26: an emote? you want to be able to do a little fortnite angry stomp dance when you find an altar that can't give you an artifact? 15:17 --- sure, but meant emote on transition from "artifactable altar" to "nonartifactable altar" 15:18 dont look at me, i was coding computer games way before the parlance was "emote" for "feedback", im just keeping hip with the youngs 15:19 k2 was like born in the SEVENTIES i think, he wont understand me if i dont twerk every once in a while 15:19 the EARLY SEVENTIES 15:20 yeah 15:20 yup, one of them youngs 15:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEcXp8_I8CY 16:08 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:12 back to my tortle tourist... 16:15 i read that as tortie for a second and was confused, why are there tabaxi in evilhack now 16:18 2 words I need to lookup now 16:18 tortie = tortoiseshell cat 16:18 tabaxi = d&d cat race 16:18 thanks :-) 16:19 a tortie i met recently https://0x0.st/XC6M.mp4 16:20 we had a short-haired one many years ago 16:20 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:20 this one is a persian 16:20 she has been adopted out by now 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2572 (0:24:51) 16:26 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3336 (0:29:19) 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4559 (0:42:49) 17:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:06 hmm i am having a brain fart moment... where exactly is a roles guaranteed first gift expressed? role.c? 17:07 no 17:07 pray.c? 17:07 k2, isnt it artilist? 17:07 oh yeah 17:07 oh right 17:07 thanks 17:08 * K2 smacks his forehead 17:08 altar sac changes are done 17:08 just playing around with some other ideas 17:17 K2 can I set an option for MRless in my rcfile so that I can play it as a wizard? 17:18 mrless is a tracked conduct? 17:18 yes 17:18 yeah since last version I believe 17:18 has been for several months now 17:18 reflectionless as well 17:18 playing with no misters... dang that would be tough 17:18 OH I can do nudist for that, can't I 17:18 you would only be able to interact with female shopkeepers 17:18 yup 17:19 I dunno why I want to do this. I'm just fucking around till next version release :P 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2215 (0:07:43) 17:30 heh 17:30 commit incoming 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2584 (0:10:45) 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:3839 (0:26:04) 17:55 EvilHack Commits: Altar sacrifice and receiving artifacts changes. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c7b584e0993519111c799444d73ce1d62ee3c5ee 17:55 ^ read the commit notes! :P 17:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3898 (1:11:58) 18:02 krm26 what do you think 18:03 well it killed loggers, that's a good sign surely 18:04 lol 18:04 My 'read the commit notes!' shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt. 18:04 omg i need a shirt like that 18:04 its like RTFM 18:04 honestly this seems promising 18:05 hopefully encourages more learning how to use what you get 18:05 yeah 18:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:06 he lives 18:06 let's see how it pans out 18:06 Umbire thought I killed you Loggers_VIII 18:06 I wouldn't be put down by such a fiend 18:06 the log rises 18:07 check out the last commit 18:07 skimmin 18:08 I like it K2 18:08 \o/ 18:08 if mobileuser likes it - ship it 18:08 heh 18:08 :P 18:08 hmmmm looks good 18:08 oh no! 18:08 I think the rule is that if Loggers likes it, it needs tweaking :P 18:09 lol 18:09 seriously looks good 18:09 ok 18:09 the second artifact wish being guaranteed is nice 18:09 been thinking about this for awhile 18:10 also there's now an actual reason to use wishes on non-quest artifacts, since you can't farm infinitely 18:10 i still wanna split up wands of wishing a bit too 18:11 hm I kinda like this in concept way more than I thought I would 18:11 so its not 'rush to the castle, get a ton of wishes' 18:11 we'll have to see how it pans out in practice but I'm optimistic 18:11 cool 18:11 yeah wish spreading is goated 18:11 i still want krm26's feedback 18:11 heh 18:11 Does crowning or getting Dirge count for fracturing altars? 18:11 he is the altar camp GOAT 18:12 krm26 altar camps a silly amount heh 18:12 mobileuser no i didnt touch those, but i already had those (and a couple others) in the back of mind mind that maybe they should (chance wise) 18:13 right 18:13 i was also thinking of a *very small chance* of fracturing an altar if you convert it 18:13 fracture an altar when someone permaconverts :-) 18:14 good idea 18:14 pls don't :[ 18:14 no one does that but me anyway 18:15 hah 18:15 but yeah that should do it 18:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a small shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:47575 (18:07:29) 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10758 points, T:6386, killed by a spear trap 18:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 321 points, T:1210, killed by a mountain dwarf 19:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:14 just came back and reading commit notes k2 19:14 EvilHack Commits: Tweaks to altar sacrifice and receiving artifacts changes. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a990e32136dd0314ffc58d13bf7afea004ed9929 19:14 yay 19:15 initial reaction is that i like and support 100% of that 19:15 BUT 19:16 heh 19:16 but... DIRGE 19:16 if you want to stop me altar camping it might not be quite dramatic enough. some games have altars crawling out of every orifice 19:16 i love the always-come-with-owner change 19:17 yeah i'm thinking of that bit too (some games have a plethora of altars) 19:17 but not all of them 19:17 i think it wouldnt be bad to also add a timeout to getting gifts after receiving any artifact gift 19:18 'the altar is ignoring you' 19:18 heh 19:18 that's an interesting idea 19:18 well, it might provide normal non-artifact behavior, but you'd get a different emote when it was finally ready to entertain artifact gifts again 19:18 game saying 'hey take a break, go do something else 19:18 or it could be full stop on gifts, either way 19:19 it already does that though 19:19 'you get a hopeful feeling' 19:19 no, i mean for any altar 19:19 so if you had two altars and broke one with an artifact, the other altar wouldnt give you an artifact until a 10,000 turn timeout or whatever 19:19 hmm 19:19 so there is both a numerical limit and a time limit working in tandem 19:19 10k is a bit extreme 19:20 or whatever 19:20 will mull it over 19:20 even 1000 turns, which lets you do whatever you want, breaks the altar camping cycle pretty well 19:20 i gotta step out for a few min, take mini-me's friend home 19:20 back in just a few 19:34 <@Loggers_VIII> get rid of random altars and put a guaranteed altar on the level below the oracle 19:35 blasphemy! 19:35 <@Loggers_VIII> that’s at minimum 3 usable altars including minetown and ice queen, potentially more depending on quests and whether or not you are infidel 19:35 <@Loggers_VIII> the game is balanced around you having an altar at least at the start of midgame anyway 19:36 <@Loggers_VIII> k2 you should also nerf the amount of altars in orc temple, now that quantity is actually relevant 19:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:48 or the orc temple altars can start fractured 19:48 can also just sometimes generated random altars fractured, with %age intended to balance to whatever severity you like 19:53 with this change you'll want to carefully consider whether any pregenerated altar should be fractured or not 19:53 aha you're so right krm26 19:53 it's thematically cool for those to be fractured too 19:53 leave one non-fractured though maybe 19:54 might even make it so an unaligned altar was always fractured when converted 19:54 which would mean orctown would no longer be the absolute best hands down :-P 19:54 just mostly the best 19:55 I don't like that, giving orctown players no chance at an early artifact is getting rid of the main benefit of orctown 19:55 actually it'd probably be okay now that I think about it 19:56 well, no, it is still a guaranteed aligned altar, you still get non-artifact loot from it if you want, you still get a lot of orcs to kill and eat or sacrifice 19:56 i mean, definitely a nerf, but still a good town 19:56 I forgot that you can still get non-artifact loot from the altars 19:56 yeah 19:56 (if they're fractured) 19:57 the minetown with no guaranteed general store and like a 2x2 with a candle and a 2x2 with a food ration is the WORST 19:57 f those guys 19:57 I know from experience a fractured orctown altar sucks 19:57 err cracked? 19:57 in nerf it's worse cuz you can't get non-artifact gifts 19:58 oh cool, my wiz got catacombs 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6986 (0:46:30) 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7013 (0:46:38) 20:02 fuck, pickaxe 20:02 I had kind of hoped to get weaponless 20:03 better now than in gehennom or whatever 20:16 the only sad thing about having force bolt as a main damage source is you don't really get any potions 20:17 krm26: I'm not sold on a timeout breaking the camping cycle. it makes flavor sense (your god's reaction is probably like "wtf you don't like the thing I just gave you??") 20:18 but in practice, I figure I'd use up the 1000 turns heading over to the second altar then sitting there in a closet so I spawn a nice juicy mob of monsters to kill and sac 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8056 (0:59:16) 20:23 yeah I would just sit around 20:24 well, it probably damages efficiency -- you gotta do something else for a while, get sidetracked or lose track... 20:25 but another alternative is randomly generating n% of altars as fractured. then you dont need to do any timeout work, just up that % until you're happy with how screwed we all are 20:26 I don't think any altars should randomly generate fractured 20:26 honestly, limiting the game to one unfractured altar above the quest, then one above the castle... 20:26 it's already luck-based enough as it is with how many altars you can get 20:27 i think you either have to reduce the rate altars are generated or generate them randomly fractured -- otherwise this change is only a change for a percentage of runs 20:27 i've had plenty of games with more altars than there are artifacts to get out of them 20:28 your change also makes it only for a percentage of runs, though 20:28 it'd be better to just guarantee an altar or two at certain depths and have them not randomly gen 20:28 if the statistical average is 6 altars per game (im making that up of course), then having altars generate 50% fractured will reduce that statistical average 20:29 im assuming that k2 is happy with current altar generation for non-artifact-saccing purposes...altars do have a bunch of other functions 20:29 sure but there's plenty of runs where I only see for example one altar outside of the guaranteed ones, if that one's randomly fractured it's lame 20:30 altars are quite rare in the main dungeon in my experience, though that's anecdotal of course 20:30 maybe start having a chance to fracture them after a certain amount of non-fractured altars have been generated? 20:31 and have the chance increase for each subsequent non-fractured altar 20:39 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:2118 (0:24:45) 20:49 ugh. what was supposed to be 15 min round trip was an hour 15 min 20:49 mini-me's friends dad is prior service, we got to talking 20:50 anywho, backscroll 20:50 i'm not keen on having altars generate pre-fractured. that's kind of a 'fuck you' to the player 20:50 yay I found an altar! oh... fractured 20:51 i was thinking about the mines end orc temple though before it was mentioned. i may remove 2 of the 4 altars 20:51 2 of 5? 20:51 the number will decrease :) 20:52 timeout - there's already a timeout built in after you get something from sacrificing, that should be sufficient 20:52 ^ krm26 aosdict Loggers_VIII 20:53 also yeah the already existing timeout can last a really long time 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 894 points, T:3520, killed by Mr. Kabalebo; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 21:23 EvilHack Commits: Reduce of number of altars on the mines' end 'orc temple' level. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e11bce5caf72b8de4a05b0da0bdeed48d17ac9e6 21:42 EvilHack Commits: Altars won't start to appear until dungeon level 3. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/24af3bb53756e7aaeae95a5270eb8aeae1b37d51 21:43 EvilHack Commits: Fix: number of guaranteed artifacts from wishing. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/de41894dedd695cfb36bf1e02004b0e29f7615f8 21:44 drow convict just got harder :P 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 5736 points, T:4899, killed by a panther 21:51 heh 21:55 next commit is for you Loggers_VIII 21:56 oh boy 22:01 <@Loggers_VIII> you bastard 22:01 oh man i cant scum for altars on level 1 any more? boooooo :-) 22:01 * hackemslashem gets popcorn 22:01 <@Loggers_VIII> you think this is funny, k2? you think this is some sort of game? 22:01 <@Loggers_VIII> you’ve made a not very powerful enemy today 22:01 how about no fountain wishes before level 3 as well? 22:02 srsly :-) 22:02 EvilHack Commits: Make Druid's first sacrifice gift Werebane. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a788a4ba23d9cef6f26ec8666fc2a098cb863ea9 22:02 change werebane from saber to scimitar? 22:02 why? 22:02 they use same skill 22:02 right, but didnt dnd emphasize scimitars for druids? 22:03 EvilHack Commits: Harbinger can eat through iron bars like Dirge. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3c2e374e8d6bac007738096c92ea1dc57aa51b0d 22:03 or am i misunremembering 22:03 they did 22:03 i guess that'd be cool if werebane became a scimitar 22:03 so if it is their sac gift just thought it would be a nice change 22:03 also, since there are no artifact scimitars but already an artifact saber 22:04 exactly 22:04 just verisimilitude 22:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Xotius (Inf Ith Fem Una), 699 points, T:583, killed by the Goblin King 22:04 dmg is exactly same 22:04 you should make it a good weapon too while you're at it 22:04 all my druids will be weaponless in protest 22:05 I am required to admit that it does make sense and is cool thematically 22:05 required heh 22:06 so lets get back to removing early fountain wishes! 22:06 I was really hoping you would just let that go 22:07 thrones are alread level gated, right? 22:07 i mean, we'll always be able to startscum for sunsword lying in the starting room :-) 22:07 throne rooms begin at level 5 iirc 22:07 no altars or wishes from fountains until after the goblin king gate 22:08 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/83530efb1ffe40dfbfa259aaf6d63e7a4b1fcfd6 22:08 also, every time mobileuser gets a fountain wish he has to stop playing and sit on his hands for 2 weeks 22:08 ^ from last month 22:08 krm26: I was musing the other day about flipping the odds of fountain wishes, to like 1% per your dlvl 22:09 oh laaaame, no more double wishes from fountains 22:09 didnt wishes always dry up fountains? i am SO inattentive 22:09 that only happened to me twice ever anyway :P 22:09 no they did not 22:09 brb i gotta get the ice queen into bed 22:10 wishes from fountains are really mostly exciting in the very upper dungeon 22:12 EvilHack Commits: Change Werebane from a saber to a scimitar. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/82949cc4622a4cd47a86162850ccf1515b999c3c 22:14 yaenosidohiirbwicihtbi (yet another either neat or silly idea depending on how it is received by whatever IRC channel I happen to be in): monsters can be either diurnal or nocturnal. depending on the time, monsters may be generated asleep on level creation, and active monster generation is slightly biased toward monsters that are active at whatever 22:15 time it is 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:8392 (1:23:36) 22:26 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of platinum gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:5360 (0:42:20) 22:31 heh that's an interesting idea 22:35 its status is now officially "yani" 22:40 and all three of those messages would have been caught by my parser anyway 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:7064 (0:58:15) 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Ginebig (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:9182 (1:04:18) 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a goblin shaman corpse, on T:7588 (1:02:26) 22:50 EvilHack Commits: Do not anger peacefuls if zaps with a wand of speed monster. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9fa97d11016641090c53a3f11220c970fcecfa3f 22:51 if? 22:51 if zaps 22:51 hah 22:53 EvilHack Commits: Do not anger peacefuls if zapped with a wand of speed monster. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/2254a99bf537c1204ab82d2d5be818690f724db0 22:55 ..or smashed with a healing/speed/restoration potion? :-) 22:55 if in melee, Fing a pet with a "good" potion should give feedback about letting them drink from it instead of smacking it over their ass like a fool 22:56 or implement the idea about #tipping the potion to an adjacent monster 22:56 F is pretty clearly "no I want to attack" 22:57 that way you won't kill your 1 hp pet by smashing it with a bottle either 22:57 death by inappropriate application of full healing 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Hob Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:24256 (11:24:59) 22:58 another awful change you could make k2: diluted smoky potion djinni cannot grant wishes 22:59 oooof 22:59 or grants you a rubber hose 22:59 or a tin opener 23:00 one of my favorite minigames is making 40+ smoky potions when it ends up being fruit juice or full healing or whatever 23:00 and since we're killing my minigames :-) 23:01 it doesn't make sense to me. diluting a potion dilutes the potion's effect, the djinni is seperate from that 23:01 aw shit I'm stealin that 23:01 you dont need a justification to make wishing harder 23:01 you kinda do 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4283 (0:33:37) 23:02 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:02 I think the idea of nerfing alchemizing stuff to smoky healing is good, but you could probably do it in a way that also makes internal sense 23:03 i make my games last much much longer than necessary by (1) altar camping, (2) alchemy, (3) forging huge piles of shuriken or whatever i dont use, (4) polypiling -- if all 4 of those are addressed then i can walk away from evilhack a free man 23:04 oh k2, as part of this release do you want to squeeze in a teensy tiny bit of work on making artifact scoring a little more rationalized? 23:04 2-4 i'm not touching 23:04 so get used to 1 23:04 :P 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4905 (0:36:26) 23:05 scoring? 23:05 like, right now, the eye of vecna is worth 125,000/aum, and gjallar is worth 694.44/aum 23:05 and excalibur 250/aum 23:05 score is like one million percent arbitrary anyway 23:05 the one ring, a free early artifact, if worth 6,250/aum 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (locusts), on T:4936 (0:37:36) 23:06 i mean, scoring is in the game. it doesnt have to be. but since it is in, it makes sense to look at it i think 23:07 yeah i agree 23:07 did you have some adjustments in mind? 23:07 i made a spreadsheet with all the evilhack weights 23:07 :) 23:07 so could look at scoring opportunities by alignment 23:07 and yeah i have thoughts :-) 23:08 i do love that eye of vecna is so crazy valuable since everyone generally wants to forge it 23:08 wanna do aPR? 23:09 oh man so much clicking 23:09 yeah it is, isnt it :P 23:09 if you do a PR i can focus on other stuff 23:10 ok ok ok i dont want to distract you from hobbling me in-game 23:10 heh 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9861 (1:24:36) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1497 points, T:1669, killed by a giant mosquito, while praying 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 15632 points, T:12140, caught himself in his own ball of lightning 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:12, killed by a fox 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5240 (0:40:23) 23:30 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2679 (0:24:58) 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1371 points, T:5000, poisoned by a hobbit zombie 23:42 EvilHack Commits: Highlight hidden stairs. https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c2e69540d7ceb3f451da1b0507f50b53ee9766a9 23:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:56 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Remote host closed the connection]