00:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:4160 (2:31:39) 00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:33059 (3:25:04) 00:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4848 (2:40:02) 00:21 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6448 (2:51:35) 00:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:6980 (3:04:25) 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2477 (0:43:00) 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2767 (0:46:34) 01:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:8982 (3:36:52) 01:14 <@arahael> I'm preparing to do a wish, and I have 81 HP so I think I'll survive any artifact blast now. 01:15 <@arahael> I was wanting to wish for the eye, but I'm chaotic, so I need a different artifact. I would therefore normally wish for the Ring of P'hul, however the Striped Shirt of Liberation has caught my eye: 01:15 <@arahael> > Once worn, it cannot be removed by normal methods. 01:15 <@arahael> Does that mean that the wizard can't steal it either? 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7101 points, T:4155, killed by a bolt of lightning 01:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:37 I guess it hinges on whether "normal means" includes stealing attacks. 01:43 I also notice that the evilhack page says that the Wizard of Yendor is capable of stealing every quest artifact, "He is capable of stealing every quest artifact except that of your role." 01:43 Is that different to vanilla? 01:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:48 Umbire: Hey! Can I nerdsnipe you into a wiki doc issue? :P I'm confused what it means that the Striped Shirt of Libration can't be stolen by "by normal methods" 01:48 More precisely: 01:48 <@arahael> > Once worn, it cannot be removed by normal methods. 01:48 I don't immediately recall writing up anything, but gimme a second 01:49 In particular I'm trying to determine if Rodney might steal it. 01:49 Don't want to loose my MR again like I did in TNNT. :( 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:36 G'arvo, mobileuser. 02:42 hi arahael 02:49 I don't think the shirt gives MR? 02:50 According to the evilhack page, it does 02:50 It's why I'm considering it. 02:50 yeah I see it now 02:51 Because MR and phasing is... Insane. 02:51 pretty sure the wizard can steal it 02:52 Does he also steal your own quest artifact? Because I know for certain he does in vanilla. But apparently not in evil? 02:52 Because if he never steals your own quest artifact, then that makes the MR issue much simpler. 02:52 in evil he won't steal your own QA 02:52 Nice, so it's indeed different. 02:52 monk? 02:53 In TNNT, he stole my eyes of the overworld. AND the other quest MR I had, in two turns. Then imediately finger-of-death'ed me. 02:53 Yeah, monk. :P 02:53 I'm a monk again in this game 02:53 I remember that i tnnt :-( 02:53 * in 02:54 It was so unlucky. 02:56 Yes, I think I'll wish up the striped shirt of liberation 02:57 Pretty sure "cannot be removed by normal methods" means you can't take it off 02:57 It does. 02:57 But I was worried about loosing all my MR with rodney again. 02:57 I also feel like you can't destroy it or shrink out of it by polymorph, but don't quote me 02:58 Hmm... Just thinking... Can I possibly wish for an object material as well? 02:58 no 02:58 Dang. A dragonhide striped shirt of liberation would've been quite something. 02:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed +3 greased fixed striped shirt of liberation", on T:13961 (5:19:37) 02:59 Dang. Didn't get iti. 02:59 * arahael throws the lamp in anger. 03:00 second QA wish? 03:00 Second artifact wish. 03:01 First QA wish. 03:01 ah 03:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed +3 greased fixed striped shirt of liberation", on T:14575 (5:24:57) 03:04 Hmm. Also failed. 03:04 What are the odds? 03:06 I think 25% for two fails. 03:06 oof those odds get worse each wish 03:06 For each wish, or for each successful wish? 03:06 each 03:06 Nasty. So I guess no more artifacts. 03:06 yup 03:09 new commit for next version: Grant poison resistance to Kathryn the Ice Queen 03:09 I didn't even know she didn't have posion res 03:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed eri's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:14971 (5:30:38) 03:10 time to visit the ice queen with my stack of poisoned arrows 03:11 Ha. 03:11 What about Kathryn the Enchantress? 03:12 no idea, but it's a bad idea to attack her anyway 03:12 hmm better bring some candy bars... 03:13 multishot arrows could be a problem 03:15 mobileuser: Yes, but... If no poison resist... ;P 03:18 that's exactly the problem 03:18 poison instaKO proc'ing mid-volley 03:19 Yep. Honestly I've always hated that mechanic. 03:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:31 *sigh*, I just want obj detection. :( Hard to find. 03:31 About 4 nymphs so far, none had it 03:31 The 6th nymph had a potion! 03:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:18165 (5:53:01) 04:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:59039 (1 day, 10:55:13) 04:05 heh I didn't need the candy bar, the transformation only took place after all arrows had hit 04:05 even though "The poison was deadly..." occurred earlier 04:06 of course I can now say goodbye to those arrow, property of the enchantress now :-) 04:10 oh deadass? 04:10 neat 04:10 oh, mobileuser 04:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Mappable 04:11 I'm currently trying to think of how to get back up the dungeon so that I can find a magic key. 04:11 I'm blocked by the big room. 04:11 it's marked as a stub but I don't think there's much more to be described for vanilla atm 04:11 Too dangerious for me to pass. 04:18 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 04:19 Oh, found a way to almost instantly get out of a beartrap. 04:29 nice Umbire! 04:31 btw, I hope that at some point you can figure out the rules for temporary/permanent invis/see invis in hack'em O:3 04:32 yeah I'll get to that when I get to that 04:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22518 (7:01:09) 05:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:30 Was hoping for the BoH. Marker's better, of course, but it's better later. 05:30 I guess now that I have it i should wish up a book of identify. 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:23635 (7:44:12) 05:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a cloth cloak entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:24013 (7:48:15) 05:48 A cloth cloak. Very very useful(!) 05:50 Question: Can a wand of cancellation be put into the pocket dimension that is the magic chest? 05:53 Reasonably sure 05:57 Neat. 06:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had 15 copper shuriken entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:25549 (8:07:28) 06:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:08 *sigh*. So, I guess I'm not going to be vegetarian anymore(!) 06:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a giant corpse, on T:25764 (8:10:01) 06:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:12 I guess now that I can eat meat, I can altar camp as long as I like now. 06:12 > You have gravely abused your alignment. 06:12 I haven't done the quest yet, that's going to be interesting. 06:16 if you dont want to lose prior protection, bring along a nice pet to kill your quest leader for you 06:16 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:59756 (1 day, 11:50:18) 06:19 krm26: Good tip! 06:20 krm26: I suppose I could buy it again at that point though, thinking of just not visiting the leader until the last minute. 06:20 hmm, do you actually lose protection killing the quest leader? 06:20 i *think* so, typically peaceful human? 06:20 also, arahael, if you ever need a magic key and are stuck below the big room, you can get it out of ludios 06:20 to the wiki 06:21 dont have to do the tougher part of ludios, it is in the safe in the lower left corner 06:21 if you're lucky ludios can be just one level below the big room :-) 06:21 krm26: Ah, nice, I managed to get back up through, though. 06:22 no, I don't think you lose protection 06:23 really? so lame, i always take useless precautions i guess 06:23 you checked the code, mobileuser? 06:23 same for all the friendly human quest npcs? 06:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Intrinsic_protection#Losing_intrinsic_protection 06:23 the wiki :-) 06:25 (as opposed to the code) 06:25 Why do I feel guilty attacking a friendly ogre? It had stuff I wanted. 06:26 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:28 Because you don't attack peacefuls 06:30 That sounds like a lack of flexibility, there. 06:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had 19 wooden shuriken entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:27784 (8:35:40) 06:37 I always find it curious how alignment works. 06:37 not feeling guilty for attacking peacefuls is for unaligned infidels :-) 06:37 I have "gravely" abused mine. And yet: You feel you are thoroughly on the right path. 06:37 That has nothing to do with alignment abuse 06:37 current vs past 06:38 This is a bit like murdering someone then going to church the next day for penance. 06:38 yup 06:38 but your quest leader remembers... 06:39 Quest leader should know better. 06:54 There are so many magic lamps in this game. 06:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:31182 (8:59:11) 07:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:31822 (9:06:49) 07:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:31982 (9:07:44) 07:08 So many useless items. 07:15 I had to kill Dagul :-( 07:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had 17 shuriken entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:33407 (9:17:26) 07:17 mobileuser: Why the long face? 07:17 ex-pet 07:18 stepped on a levelport trap 07:18 Ah, nasty. 07:18 Does that come with a penalty? 07:18 no, only if you sac their corpse I think? 07:19 yep, killing a hostile former pet has no penalty 07:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:35072 (9:29:58) 07:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:35196 (9:31:00) 07:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of steel kicking boots entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:37827 (9:35:21) 07:46 I do not know how many unicorns I've sacrificed. 08:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided basilisks, on T:60095 (1 day, 12:14:54) 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] adh123 (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 697 points, T:1199, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:60166 (1 day, 12:19:44) 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:99310 (2 days, 0:22:59) 08:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:43048 (10:28:27) 08:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43057 (10:29:09) 08:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:99445 (2 days, 0:30:49) 08:35 Hmm. I must forfiet the eyes to master po, it seems. Unless... 08:36 I'd better do that, actually. I'm only Xp 13. 08:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) returned The Eyes of the Overworld to Master Po, completing her quest, on T:43443 (10:37:57) 08:37 you could have just run away and come back later to kill him 08:37 just means the bell is locked 08:37 Yep. Wasn't thinking too clealry. 08:37 <@Loggers_VIII> what’s your HP? 08:37 99. 08:37 <@Loggers_VIII> and AC 08:37 argghhh 9 amulets of magical breathing was insufficient 08:37 -17 08:37 well f it 08:38 Hmm? 08:38 <@Loggers_VIII> I THINK YOU COULD BEAT HIS ASS BUT IDK IT MAY BE RISKY 08:38 Haha. 08:38 <@Loggers_VIII> oops caps 08:38 I'm sure it was intentional! 08:38 <@Loggers_VIII> historians will say so 08:40 I suppose since I gave him the artifact he now has MR. 08:41 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s fine, he won’t wear it so he doesn’t 08:41 <@Loggers_VIII> monsters can’t wear lenses 08:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Po, on T:43487 (10:43:30) 08:42 Yes. It was bad. 08:43 > Huan Ti was extremely angry with you. 08:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 331630 points, T:43501, killed by an earth elemental, while paralyzed by a monster 08:43 Well, that was fun. 08:43 I never quite saw what paralyzed me. 08:43 !lastgame 08:43 arahael: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/adh123/evilhack/dumplog/1733231308.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/davez/evilhack/dumplog/1733097403.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1733125221.evil.html 08:44 Yes, not in the logs either. 08:44 Next time, if I do this, I had better make sure I have free action. 08:45 <@Loggers_VIII> there’s a monster spell called ‘paralyze’ 08:46 That must have been it. 08:46 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s clerically specifically so master po and all the other monks can cast it on you 08:46 <@Loggers_VIII> *clerical 08:46 THat would definitely have been it then. 08:46 Killing Po was easy, as it turned out. 08:46 But that spell... Oof. 08:47 free action would have been a good wish. Or ring of p'hul. 08:47 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide +2 striped shirt of excellence", on T:43281 (21:12:54) 08:47 mobileuser: Yeah, I should've wished for the free action ring. 08:47 <@Loggers_VIII> I died in the exact same way once, killed Po easily and got paralyzed by one of the NPCs while an earth elemental wailed on me :p 08:47 <@Loggers_VIII> if you have magic resistance it works as free action for that spell, so I’ve learned to just keep the eyes and kill him there 08:48 yeah for many chaotics ring of p'hul is an ideal first wish 08:48 <@Loggers_VIII> if you aren’t ready for him right out the gate, you can leave the quest and come back later 08:48 Ah, that works, then. So the lesson is don't ever give the eyes back. 08:48 in fact, for any chaotic whose quest artifact does not provide mr 08:48 krm26: I wished for the gloves instead. 08:48 dragonbane. 08:48 I always go for dragonbane. 08:48 that is imo a poor choice 08:48 it is so easy to get from an altar 08:48 Oh? 08:49 but i am the crazy guy who almost never wishes for non-quest artifacts 08:49 <@Loggers_VIII> “so easy” 2 hours of sacs later… 08:49 You've seen my 4+ hours of sacs here. 08:49 what is 40000 turns between friends 08:49 <@Loggers_VIII> but yeah it’s unaligned so anyone can get it from an altar 08:49 anyway, mr > refl 08:49 I got... Nothing good from the sacs. Except for a whole bunch of the monke throwing stars. 08:50 krm26: Right, but the eyes give reflection. 08:50 throwing stars are amazing tho 08:50 Erm, the eyes give MR. 08:50 <@Loggers_VIII> I always chuck the shuriken in the trash 08:50 <@Loggers_VIII> but I think that’s a me issue 08:50 omigod, expert +7 silver throwing stars make all the demon bosses evaporate 08:50 Yeah, the shuriken is insanely powerful. 08:50 even lucy 08:50 I actually had shuriken of lightening in that game. 08:51 Never used them though, I was saving them. 08:51 they are obv best when you are at max luck 08:51 <@Loggers_VIII> monks are just sooooo powerful in melee 08:51 well, monks are so powerful at everything 08:51 Yes, and there's also the magic missile. Which is so good too. 08:51 I didn't have that either though. 08:51 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 08:51 <@Loggers_VIII> yknow what else evaporates demon bosses? grandmaster martial arts with silver kicking boots and purity gloves 🗣️‼️‼️ 08:52 No way I could get purity gloves. :P 08:52 I enjoyed too much tortle soup. 08:52 the only bad thing about monks is that you generally dont give a crap about any early artifacts you find 08:52 That's the other reason I go for dragonbane: Really good AC, reflection, AND it lets you melee dragons effectively. 08:53 dragonbane only matters for black dragons, who you can just magic missile 08:53 Fair. 08:53 dont get me wrong, i love dragonbane 08:53 in fact it was my favorite artifact...before gjallar and ring of p'hul came along :-) 08:53 But if you're engulfed, it's great too. 08:54 Ah, yeah, I raelly liked them before then too, and I still do. Ring of p'hul is just my second wish. 08:54 But I got really unlucky in this game, burned two wishes. 08:54 i dont usually 2nd artifact wish any more. 50% is too low percentage for my personal rng 08:54 <@Loggers_VIII> I’m like krm26, if I can sac for it I don’t wish for it 08:55 It's so much sac'ing, though. 08:55 <@Loggers_VIII> also the chance gets lower when you miss a wish which is still the dumbest evilhack mechanic by a landslide 08:55 Yes, I was sad to learn that. I don't think it was always like that. 08:55 i had like 5 games back to back where i gave up on a 2nd artifact after ~5 failed wishes 08:55 im slow but eventually i heard what the game was telling me 08:55 Heh. 08:56 I mean, I don't mind it when the game says: "No second artifact for you". But burning so many wishes to get to that point is hard. 08:57 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s why I’ll never spend a wish if I can get something from sac. you only get one artiwish as far as I’m concerned 08:57 100% with loggers on that 08:57 After this game I think I'll agree. 08:58 I could've done so much with the two wishes I burned. 08:58 if im sitting on a lot of wishes i dont care about in the endgame -- which happens maybe half the time? i'll blow two on trying to get a 2nd artifact for giggles, but obv by that stage it is just for points 08:58 hi loggers 08:59 I should probably see if I can sleep. Spent most of the day in bed, sleeping (took the day off sick, even). 08:59 It's 1am, so perhaps a chance. 09:00 sleep and feel better! 09:00 Thanks. 09:01 It's funny, I have BG3 and a whole bunch of modern games. But when I just want to rest and do nothing... It's nethack I go for. 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:100022 (2 days, 0:59:20) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43842 (21:32:18) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43845 (21:32:36) 09:31 !tell K2 question for when I'm on later: do inmates (Convict quest friendlies) have sickness res? 09:31 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 09:32 !tell K2 also, have you considered themed rooms with prisoners (as in the monster) guarded be a strong nasty or something similar? 09:32 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 09:32 they do not umbire 09:32 @e?inmate 09:32 inmate (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 09:33 I checked but wasn't sure if that showed up on pino 09:33 in fact lemme... 09:33 @e?demogorgon 09:33 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 09:33 hmm you may be right! 09:33 no, it should hshow up as resist sickness like with locusts 09:33 @e?locust 09:33 locust (a) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d8 bite physical, 1d4 sting disease | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, oviparous, poisonous, passes-bars 09:34 not in pinobot but in-game shows locusts yes, inmates no 09:34 right 09:34 !tell K2 disregard first question, substitute this: do you want me to note the additional quest friendlies on the Evil article, along with the new nemeses and such (like with Annam)? 09:34 Will do, Umbire! 09:35 with that off I go 09:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 09:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:45 arahael I wished for dragonbane too in my game 09:46 perfectly fine if you don't intend to wish for another artifact 09:57 dont listen to mobileuser, he ascends too much to be trusted 09:57 :O 09:57 he might not even be real -- just a glowing lure in front of the anglerfish's mouth 10:22 !tell Umbire sure, thanks 10:22 K2: Messages from Umbire have been forwarded to you privately. 10:22 Umbire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 10:23 @Loggers_VIII you said mean things about evilhack wish chances. I am writing you out of my will 10:23 good day to you sir 10:26 argh i fing hate peaceful demon lords 10:26 where is that bastard 10:28 come back friend I need to kill you why are you avoiding me 10:30 <@Loggers_VIII> K2: sorry I’m on my evil hate-fueled type shit today :P 10:30 heh 10:31 I SAID GOOD DAY 10:32 <@Loggers_VIII> it isn’t that bad. one free artiwish is still better than what vanilla does 10:33 well, in vanilla there is nothing worth wishing for 10:34 <@Loggers_VIII> an early MKoT is good for most 10:34 <@Loggers_VIII> and EoTA for spellcasters 10:34 <@Loggers_VIII> I feel so fancy using these acronyms 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide bracers of decay", on T:29216 (4:36:01) 10:38 maybe instead of a failed wish increasing the odds counter, a really nasty monster is summoned instead 10:39 'Instead of dragonbane, a vorpal jabberwock appears!' 10:39 that could be fun... hahah 10:39 hahahahahah 10:39 <@Loggers_VIII> a Marid maybe 10:39 HAHAHAHAH 10:39 <@Loggers_VIII> the djinn association gets mad at you for getting greedy 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:100509 (2 days, 2:18:20) 10:40 heh 10:40 i've started working on new monsters 10:40 did a lil bit last night 10:40 <@Loggers_VIII> oh my goodness how exciting 10:40 working on Ent 10:40 I tried to use ± for its monster symbol, but 3.6 no likey 10:41 no true utf8 support 10:41 <@Loggers_VIII> use H perhaps? 10:41 this will flip you out... using # 10:41 <@Loggers_VIII> they’re basically wood giants 10:41 <@Loggers_VIII> hah yeah that makes more sense 10:42 why you may ask? because trees in nethack are actually # until you start using different symset like ibmgraphics or decgraphics 10:42 maybe there's way to do it? not sure 10:43 just had an idea 10:45 LOL omg that actually worked 10:46 wow 10:50 HAX 10:50 hell yeah 10:50 \o/ 10:50 ent's are gonna be ± boi 10:50 lol 10:51 you're going to upset the ASCII purists 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44030 (21:42:11) 10:54 how so? 10:54 i'm using an already existing game symbol 10:54 ± is not ASCII 10:55 ent's will be # when in plain/default mode 10:55 just like trees are 10:55 what color? 10:55 in ibm/decgraphics, they'll be ± just like trees are 10:55 color? bright green initally. if i do different variants of ent, brown is another option 10:56 i'm getting the hard stuff out of the way first 10:56 then i can focus on the details 10:57 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:57 lol this is awesome, it looks like a silver tree is chasing me around (I'm having test monster use the symbol for now) 10:59 hahahah 10:59 this is great 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the elven high priest of Moloch, on T:44114 (21:49:37) 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:44119 (21:50:07) 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) averted death (killed by the flames of hell), on T:44155 (21:55:07) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:30943 (5:03:46) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:44169 (21:56:33) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:44173 (21:57:23) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:44175 (21:57:44) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] goatrobin (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:31140 (5:05:40) 11:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:44339 (22:08:19) 11:22 gogo msbqqq! 11:25 krm26 you know how you improved the body part listing for spiders? 11:26 what do you think would be proper for a tree? 11:26 feet would be roots 11:26 legs would be the trunk i guess? 11:26 hmm 11:26 arms - branches 11:26 i would be tempted to use limbs for both arms and legs 11:27 limb is the word tolkien used predominantly i think 11:27 maybe "crown" for head, or they could be headless 11:27 hmm they have heads 11:27 cuz they have a face 11:27 then crown might be good 11:28 yeah 11:29 i think tolkien also preferred bole to trunk 11:30 trunk being of French origin, bole coming into english from one of the nordic languages i think 11:31 ah 11:32 crown might be annoying if you ever add actual crowns like in dnh 11:34 well, ents dont really have a head anyway, i think just a face :-) so could maybe call it countenance 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:44910 (22:25:20) 11:37 grzzzzzzzzt 11:38 is it finally time to realize qt's dreams of headless men monsters? 11:39 heh 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, shot herself with a death ray 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a wand of lightning 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:2, zapped herself with a wand of magic missile 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] Kaizo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1833 (0:26:18) 11:42