00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5903 (1:12:38) 00:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 00:52 -!- Regne has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:56 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 02:03 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:05 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:14 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 138 points, T:899, killed by a hobbit 03:36 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 03:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 115 points, T:660, killed by a mountain dwarf 04:56 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Graz%27zt_(EvilHack) 04:56 whenever you're next on 04:59 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:19195 (4:03:40) 06:04 Umbire gauntlets of purity will prevent the Graz'zt steal attack for lawfuls (for the strategy section) 06:05 Right 06:06 and some players like to take their chances with paralysis pots :-) 06:07 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 06:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:22989 (5:06:05) 07:09 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:09 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23629 (5:22:31) 07:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:33 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:40 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:41 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 07:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:25301 (6:20:18) 08:47 Umbire cool 08:47 Mephisto's article is up to 08:49 too* 08:50 yay 08:50 i feel like shit and maybe got 2 hrs sleep :( prob wont be on much this morning 08:56 Unfortunate 08:56 rest up much as you can, alright 08:56 ? 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a staff of divination entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:37030 (7:47:04) 09:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:63818 (1 day, 13:04:05) 09:12 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6242 (1:17:48) 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:37653 (8:03:29) 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6545 (1:23:10) 09:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63861 (1 day, 13:07:44) 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63863 (1 day, 13:07:57) 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:63878 (1 day, 13:10:47) 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27799 (7:27:11) 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27802 (7:27:21) 09:27 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:28032 (7:31:50) 09:35 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 09:35 !whereis mobileuser 09:35 tinklebear: Message from mobileuser at 2024-08-17 13:10 EDT: "The troll swings her hooked polearm." I found one! 09:35 tinklebear: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Kni Dro Fem Cha) T:63880 Gehennom level: 44 09:38 Thank you for the (2024-08-17) data, mobileuser. I really appreciate it! 09:38 no problem :-P 09:39 and good luck on your current run 09:39 thanks! 09:40 my kingdom for free action 09:40 had to use a pet sea dragon to survive the sea of guardian naga 09:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the dark elven high priest of Moloch, on T:64037 (1 day, 13:26:53) 09:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64040 (1 day, 13:27:15) 09:41 heh we have the same turn count and you are SO FAR ahead of me :-) good luck! 09:43 thanks, you too! saw you finished the quest already 09:44 this is a weird loot-starved run. my main weapon is...cough...glamdring 09:45 original G style 09:46 an no free action. you must be very determined 09:47 no free action, no reflection 09:47 which reminds me, i better hide from this black dragon 09:48 so cool 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 43550 points, T:12660, killed by a giant mimic 09:51 oooh, pudding room with two corroded magic lamps, wtf man 09:51 and MaxHP 111 09:54 will you use the lamps or not... 09:55 for free action? man, that is a lammmmee wish 09:55 maybe 09:55 free action, reflection is a bit of a dilemma for wishes... 09:56 i think i have a shield lying around somewhere i can use temporarily, although the damage drop is harsh 09:57 chances of sudden death by black dragon are rising and you are on a streak 09:57 smoke spare wishes while you have 'em, I'd say 09:58 ...but far be it from me to offer krm26 advice 09:58 i prefer to die with many unused wishes in my bag, that is how i roll 09:58 lol. so cool 09:58 too cool for ascensions, that's me! 09:58 :D 09:58 but now there is the streak to consider :-) 10:02 dude one of the lamps arrived pre-blessed, come on 10:02 i guess i gotta 10:02 it's a sign 10:02 probably a dud djinn inside :-) 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:62070 (17:19:20) 10:03 \o/ 10:03 \o/ 10:03 lol 10:03 :D 10:04 ok, time to go black dragon hunting 10:04 better bring my tinning kit too 10:04 ah, the one you started with! 10:05 useful after all ;-) 10:06 renovating demon rulers for evil on the wiki, just as an FYI 10:06 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Mephistopheles_(EvilHack) just finished this off, split Graz'zt article off proper 10:06 !rng Tiamat Baphomet 10:06 Umbire: Tiamat 10:06 yay! i need a nice simple summoning graph 10:06 guess it's her next 10:07 i wish each demon lord had a callout box with summoning chance info (bone devil: 1%, baphomet: 5%, etc) 10:08 for lazy people like me who are farming for a specific demon boss 10:08 Have to make the articles first 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:62598 (17:32:53) 10:23 @e?tiamat 10:23 Tiamat (D) | Lvl: 103 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic drain | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 2d4 cast spell, 4d6 claw amulet steal, 6d6 bite physical, 6d6 bite physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, si 10:23 not sure how to calculate maxHP from that 10:24 * tinklebear was just mildly curious 10:25 she *seems* to have an awful lot, but that's probably because I boulder fort and plink her to death with crossbow bolts 10:26 a *lot* of crossbow bolts, as I recall 10:27 100 +7 silver shuriken is the ideal boulder fort accessory 10:28 true. but crossbow suits the flavour of knight 10:30 pretty sure the last time I resorted to a few silver shuriken as well... 10:31 knight? dont boulder fort, joust her! 10:31 anyone but her, sure. 10:31 but I'm not losing my horse next to that beast 10:33 @e?lucifer 10:33 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 10:35 @e?orcus 10:35 Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 10:35 "silverhate" is so lame, it should instead use argyrophobic 10:37 a much classier term 10:37 what would "hates gold" be? aurophobic? that sounds like you're afraid of auras 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:63608 (17:56:55) 10:41 yeah, it is aurophobic 10:41 they cant all be winners 10:45 To try to be more specific re Tiamat: she has ToD and can use it versus the mount, and is kind of like an augmented Orcus with more HP 10:45 Unhorsed, boulder forting it is pretty much my only plan B 10:45 yeah, the good ol' touch of dismounting 10:46 ride a gray dragon! 10:46 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5968 10:46 -!- Guest5968 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:46 or just keep stunlocked with jousting 10:46 as a backup backup mount, sure 10:46 well, Orcus usually gets a couple shots in despite stunlocking 10:47 in my experience. 10:47 and can cause a lot of trouble with those shots 10:48 so so far I've just played it extra safe with Tiamat 10:53 @e?black dragon 10:53 black dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: disintegrate | Confer: disintegrate | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 12d6 breath disintegrate, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d0 passive disintegrate | Align: -6 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 10:54 Tiamat does not engulf. I haven't been taking that into account 10:56 anyways, one final consideration: dying to Orcus or Lucifer seems less demoralising than dying to a randomised demon lord like Tiamat 10:56 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Hum Mal Law), 54572 points, T:17500, poisoned by a locust, while sleeping 11:18 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 11:35 mobileuser, you or anyone else know off the top what breath attacks AD_RBRE uses? 11:35 (for Tiamat's breath attack) 11:36 yes 11:36 that is a random breath attack 11:37 lets her do various dragon breath stuff 11:37 Yes, I know that. 11:37 I am asking which breath attacks specifically. 11:37 up to ad_stun 11:37 Trying to find relevant code bits 11:38 rnd(ad_stun) 11:38 int typ = (mattk->adtyp == AD_RBRE) ? rnd(AD_STUN) : mattk->adtyp ; 11:38 mthrowu.c lns 1199-1200 11:39 thank ya kindly, should do it 11:39 mostly trying to solve how I describe it, can just refer back to AD list 11:40 so that includes the shadow dragon draining breath I assume 11:40 since DRLI is right before STUN 11:44 yes sir 11:49 dark energy is what it's called, noted noted 11:50 and she has reflection from her scales, right? 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical concave amulet on an altar, on T:10480 (2:11:19) 11:52 ive always assumed so! her scales do 11:58 not sure why reflection isnt displayed in the in-game lookup 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 17709 points, T:10803, killed by a dust vortex, while praying 12:01 yes she reflects 12:01 the code is really awful 12:02 special case for silver dragon + tiamat in muse.c ll 3680-81 12:02 too much to hope for using an actual monster bit for it 12:03 * tinklebear mentally thanks krm26 for finding and sharing the reference 12:09 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:11 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4084 (1:09:47) 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9369 (1:03:24) 12:17 k2! wtf! boulders pass through iron bars!? 12:18 lol 12:18 i just generated a room with a boulder in a corridor outside some iron bars; trap rolled the boulder through the bars into the room. trigger it again, boulder stops properly at the iron bars on the way out 12:19 so that is both a trap generation bug and a (meaningless if trap generation bug is fixed) boulder collision bug 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1799 (0:11:59) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2162 (0:15:54) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:69187 (19:52:35) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:12391 (1:26:02) 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:12683 (1:29:11) 12:47 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:53 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12568 points, T:4752, petrified by a chickatrice 12:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:64094 (1 day, 13:35:47) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Mog, on T:69918 (20:10:20) 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 22694 points, T:14355, killed by an owlbear 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:64105 (1 day, 13:38:28) 13:06 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:18 no toque, eh mobileuser? 13:18 heh not this game 13:18 :D 13:19 Carl's fedora was dragonhide! 13:19 style points 13:19 what is the range of non-confused taming... 13:20 I saw krm26 with 3 celestial dragon pets 13:20 isn't there an alignment conflict between you and the D though? 13:20 ooh 13:21 forgot about that, thanks 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:71181 (20:37:25) 13:21 but wow, that's a super cool find. nice hat! 13:21 \o/ 13:21 yeah i snagged all those on the way up, they are amazeballs 13:22 magic saving throw 50 is pretty low for such a monster 13:23 makes me want to startscum a pacifist healer for a fountain wish for a blessed figurine 13:23 food time... 13:24 I assume lawful? wiki doesn't say 13:25 Neutral 13:25 @e?celestial dragon 13:25 celestial dragon (D) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 34 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock acid petrification | Confer: sleep shock | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 16d4 scream loud, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d4 cast clerical | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 13:25 celestial and sea dragons are neutral, yeah 13:26 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dragon_(EvilHack) basic-ish overview of Evil dragons, some are due articles 13:26 probably some corrections needed as well 13:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 513 points, T:1653, killed by a wand 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:71768 (20:46:17) 13:30 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 13:35 sigh 13:35 and my wished free action is dust. thx shocking spheres 13:37 Umbire: "Many of the dragons have their alignments changed:" <-- this line and the three-element bulleted list that follows it are redundant, due to a previous mention: "... in general share the same alignment as their adult forms" 13:38 also, "Sea, shimmering and shadow dragons are neutral in both..." is wrong. Shadow dragons are chaotic 13:39 addressing 13:39 if you do go the route of enumerating the various colors, don't forget gold 13:39 but yeah, cool 13:40 I noted it that way to begin with because some vanilla dragons also had their alignments changed 13:40 gotcha 13:41 (listed those on the third sub-bullet) 13:42 those == gold? 13:42 * tinklebear doesn't see them there 13:43 but whatever. work in progress. got it 13:44 the vanilla dragons that had their alignments changed 13:44 orange, green and yellow 13:46 oh. I see what you are saying now. understood. 13:47 yeah no worries 13:50 It has been a long time since I played very far into a vanilla game, but in evil I have noticed that dragons will not generally accept items you give them to carry: "Puff cannot carry your unicorn horn" 13:50 presumably because they "have no hands!" 13:50 they dont have hands 13:50 jinx 13:51 :) 13:51 They'll pick up unicorn horns in vanilla 13:51 if dragons had hands... woo boy 13:51 because they like magical stuff 13:51 can't actually use them, though 13:51 in splicehack they have hands 13:51 should be able to pick them up in evil too 13:51 they should be able to use their potions and scrolls 13:51 minus you handing one to them 13:51 with or without hands 13:52 anyway, they'll still catch gold 13:52 they're gold likers 13:52 naturally 13:57 i've mulled it over 13:58 * tinklebear widens eyes 13:58 * K2 squints 13:58 we cancelled each other out 13:58 lol 13:58 :P 13:59 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Tiamat_(EvilHack) anyway she's up 13:59 contribute what strats you like 13:59 ugh 13:59 (or don't, 's your hands to type with) 13:59 i still feel like crap 13:59 :c 13:59 no tea or anything around? 14:00 you're doing gods work Umbire 14:00 i've been taking zicam since monday 14:00 it's actually working 14:00 nice 14:00 but i still feel bleh 14:00 speaking of, after baphomet I should do celestial dragons 14:00 they were after you made that gist but shouldn't be too hard to do the template up from scratch 14:00 just have to actually focus 14:01 yesterday I migrated the PT clinic my wife works at website from their webhost that was charging them over $1300/yr for hosting to a repurposed micro pc in my basement. it's been live since 2:30 this morning 14:02 tightening security 14:02 SSL labs report before with teir host was a B, it's now an A+ with me hosting it :P 14:02 *their 14:02 hehe nice 14:02 nice! 14:02 heh 14:03 how are you going to spend your $1300? 14:03 they've got a handful of junk plugins running too (wordpress site) 14:03 hookers n' blow 14:03 duh :P 14:03 :O 14:03 lol 14:03 i just finally offloaded the pta website they tricked me into building and running for 8 years 14:03 wordpress b gone! 14:04 if you ever need to migrate a wordpress site to another host, duplicator plugin is awesome 14:04 saved SOOOO much time 14:04 heh 14:04 oh yeah I've heard about the wordpress thing in passing 14:04 i've been using wordpress since it was version 0.x 14:04 yeah 14:04 seems like a real case of gray v. black 14:04 some dumb shit going on at the top exec levels 14:05 (no saints but one party's a bigger dickhead than all the others) 14:05 i think we did a quarter of a million bucks through woocommerce in those 8 years 14:08 damn 14:08 right now i'm working out why i cant access the webiste from the outside via ipv6 14:09 i think i know why, just verifying 14:09 (firewall policy shenanigans) 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:73373 (21:25:41) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 1135 points, T:2030, killed by a dwarf lord 14:13 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 14:16 got it 14:16 wewp 14:17 wew 14:17 @e?Tiamat 14:17 Tiamat (D) | Lvl: 103 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic drain | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 2d4 cast spell, 4d6 claw amulet steal, 6d6 bite physical, 6d6 bite physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, si 14:17 right, she can fly as well 14:19 base level 77, not looking forward to future Saint Michael kills 14:23 bleh, forgot about that evil terrapin commit that won't let you jump while stunned 14:25 pfff getting past Saint Michael and crew is going to cost a lot resources in the new version 14:25 distressingly logical ain't it 14:25 * lot of 14:26 what is new in the new version? 14:26 mainly droods 14:26 * tinklebear catches breath 14:26 \o/ \o/ \o/ 14:27 new recipe for Ithilmar (easier to make) 14:27 (and yeah, that stunning-affects-jumping thing is tough) 14:27 pff, bobble hat bs 14:27 (ithilmar) 14:27 lol 14:28 but omg, druids 14:28 speechless 14:28 and grass! and sand! 14:29 neato 14:29 I mean it'd certainly solve your Tiamat problem, wouldn't it :B 14:29 (at some opportunity cost, but not a ridiculous amount compared to previously) 14:30 what would, the ludicrous bobble hat? 14:31 I mean, look. horses for courses. 14:31 it also only works for steeds to begin with 14:31 but as far as *I* am concerned, jousting is fun BECAUSE it is risky 14:31 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:31 remove risk, remove fun. simple as 14:32 I mean Tiamat's still plenty strong enough your steed might just be beaten to death the old fashioned way 14:32 (including from missed attacks falling upon them) 14:33 that is certainly true. in fact, I judge her strong enough that I choose to avoid the issue altogether with a boulder fort 14:35 that is, I take a clearly marked-out coward's option for Tiamat, and retain the risk (and the fun) elsewhere 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:4851 (1:20:43) 14:40 there are points in the game where, in the usual course of play, you "graduate" from one set of concerns to some other set of concerns 14:41 I kind of don't *want* to graduate from some of those concerns 14:41 i know! the most fun concerns are the early concerns 14:41 then you have to ascend to start again 14:42 see, krm26 knows what I'm talking about 14:42 :D 14:42 that is why i asked k2 to let me send my ascension-ready runs to mobileuser to finish for me 14:42 haha. perfect 14:42 and Ithilmar represents yet-another-graduation that I know I'd rather skip 14:42 oh but the new ithilmar recipe will be fantastico 14:43 i also think it would be fun to remove the reflection/barding recipe and instead have dragonscale/barding recipes 14:43 I still feel very nervous on every ascension run 14:44 so you could antibasilisk your mount or mr it or...!!!...let it swim 14:44 but krm26, I thought you only played evilhack in order to wear Dragonbane? 14:44 k2 killed that part of my when he introduced purity 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1637 points, T:2799, quit 14:44 lol 14:44 and hand of vecna 14:45 that was like 0.6 krm26 14:45 dragonscaled barding sounds very cool, though! 14:45 now if im addicted to a single artifact it has gotta be dichotomy 14:46 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:46 oh man, sea-dragon scaled barding would be so awesome 14:46 the cool thing about dragonscaled barding is no matter what you pick they are just gonna be instakilled in the way you didn't pick :-) touch of death, stoning -- or old standbyes like decapitation 14:46 yeah, but see, that preserves the risk/the fun! 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 10407 points, T:5321, killed by an energy vortex 14:47 i also want to be able to forge a dog harness for the puppies 14:47 saddle + boomerang! 14:47 lol 14:47 well, wargs can wear barding, right? 14:47 but k2 has PROMISED unique #chat responses for all species as part of the druid patch 14:47 he might not remember promising but HE DID 14:47 and that is the next cool thing i'm getting 14:47 that would be so cool 14:48 all *living* species, no? 14:48 like the whinny/whicker states. so a dragon might growl/rumble, etc 14:48 so you can determine hunger state by #chatting 14:48 not just for ungulates 14:49 yeah, that sounds super cool. but certainly not for, like mummies, probably not for fell beasts 14:49 well, undead dont eat 14:49 ...gelatinous cubes, etc 14:49 *not for 14:49 oh, just for hunger? 14:50 that is the only info horse whispering gives currently 14:50 I was thinking we'd finally get to learn what cats think about all the time 14:50 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 14:50 don't say it's food all the time. everyone says that, and it can't possibly be true 14:50 -!- Peteird has quit [Client Quit] 14:51 (cats, just for example) 14:52 well, whatever it turns out to be, it'll be cool 14:52 K2 dmonsfree: 1 removed doesn't match 2 pending on Dlvl:15 14:52 A surge of flame flows through the blade! The straw golem is caught in the fireball! 14:52 You destroy the straw golem! The straw golem ignites and turns to ash! 14:52 ^ killed twice 14:55 ok 14:55 thanks 14:56 !streak mobileuser 14:56 tinklebear: [hdf-us] mobileuser Max[evil]: 5 (2021-05-23 - 2022-09-17). :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser Max[evil]: 9 (2023-12-16 - 2024-02-29). 14:56 issue has been recorded 14:57 14:43 I still feel very nervous on every ascension run 14:57 amazing! 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:74143 (22:16:11) 15:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3503 (0:55:25) 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:29822 (8:14:35) 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4563 (0:27:20) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4653 (0:28:37) 15:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:5895 (0:35:25) 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:64885 (1 day, 14:25:37) 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided electric eels, on T:64957 (1 day, 14:33:01) 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8471 (0:59:00) 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf mummy, on T:8949 (1:05:05) 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:65152 (1 day, 14:49:52) 16:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5505 (1:53:30) 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:11154 (1:23:30) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:65193 (1 day, 15:06:28) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:65194 (1 day, 15:07:03) 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:65199 (1 day, 15:09:52) 16:24 mobileuser, grats! 16:25 \o/ 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 5520311 points, T:65200, ascended 16:25 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1728474782.evil.html 16:26 \i/ 16:26 oopsd 16:26 thanks! 16:26 \o/ 16:26 gg 16:26 DIRGE 16:26 \i/ <- issa pixar lamp 16:26 oh Evil's Dirge has its own article now btw 16:26 last smoky full healing I quaffed was my first smoky wish :-) 16:26 thanks all! 16:26 CARL 16:28 woot 16:28 finally krm26 isn't the last one to ascend evilhack anymore :-P 16:28 heh 16:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 16:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:14496 (1:45:28) 16:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7279 (2:30:47) 16:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 65335 points, T:15577, quit 16:53 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Baphomet_(EvilHack) 16:55 sweet 17:57 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:28512 (7:21:49) 18:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc shaman, on T:11627 (3:45:54) 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Bar Gia Mal Cha) murdered Mew, his faithful kitten, on T:765 (0:06:42) 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 771 points, T:1746, killed by a gnome lord 18:37 -!- Regne has joined #evilhack 18:49  vanilla behavior, but, should pet spiders hide under a cursed item?  as a pet it seems it would avoid cursed items, period. 18:58 pets dont avoid cursed items 100% 18:58 but if they do not you get a message 18:59 you do not with hiding spiders 18:59 ok 19:00 so, as a pet, if avoiding cursed items, would they not generate the message? 19:00 i am asking, with vanilla, it is not like people seek out pets that hide. 19:00 i guess not? it's not something i've ever changed from vanilla nethack 19:00 there are few that do 19:01 and the ones that do are worthless.  but jumping spiders and cave spiders (which grow up) are decent pets. 19:02 no,  I ran into a situation where a pet was walking on and hiding an object. 19:02 ^hiding under 19:02 OK, items is not cursed 19:02 it was 19:08 was asking why they would not avoid cursed items to hide and if a message that they are reluctant should be produced. 19:08 -!- Regne has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:10 pets that hide under items don't avoid hiding underneath cursed items, because hiding is an intentional act! 19:10 you can't "accidentally" hide 19:10 so there's no reluctance 19:10 s/so/likewise 19:12 or, whatever reluctance there might be, is masked by the pet's clear intent to DO exactly what it does 19:14 also, if they hide successfully, you can't see them anyways 19:14 (telepathy does not reveal reluctance in any case) 19:15 (which is a little weird, if you think about it) 19:16 i dont see it being an issue 19:16 devteam doesnt either i imagine, otherwise something would have been done about it long ago 19:17 what, the telepathy thing? 19:17 or the general hiding thing 19:17 no the pet hiding under a cursed obj 19:17 ah yeah. 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "aaa", on T:3515 (0:33:52) 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:3688 (0:34:51) 19:20 Wait! There's Peaches hiding under a longsword! 19:20 barrels of laughs 19:21 heh 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4699 (0:44:32) 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Val Cen Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3089 (0:29:03) 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3286 (0:49:36) 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5162 (0:48:53) 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1735 points, T:3242, killed by an elven king, while sleeping 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:6738 (1:04:53) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6802 (1:06:47) 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7164 (1:11:57) 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a staff of matter entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:37904 (11:29:19) 20:09 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Bar Cen Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:28820 (7:36:19) 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7723 (1:25:16) 21:08 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 21:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a knife entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:19503 (3:38:03) 22:32 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:20576 (3:54:08) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2616 (0:18:31) 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2762 (0:19:38) 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3038 (0:22:42) 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 steel darts on an altar, on T:3880 (0:31:16) 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:35494 (10:25:35) 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:4014 (0:35:06) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7487 points, T:4298, killed by a drider 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36057 (10:40:30) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1983 (0:14:17) 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23520 (4:32:14) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3128 (0:21:14) 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4041 (0:31:09) 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4397 (0:34:12) 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a mithril stiletto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5617 (0:45:06) 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24418 (4:59:23) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:699 (0:01:57) 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:867 (0:03:25) 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1053 (0:04:55) 23:59 <@Loggers_VIII> huh, apparently there's elf corpses over on the far island at gollum's 23:59 <@Loggers_VIII> I've been there so many times, but until now I guess I was never fast enough to see them before they rotted