00:39 Regne an actual bug report would be ideal, rather than a passive/aggressive snarky comment 00:39 :) 00:41 while engulfed, it appears that whatever tile the monster is on determines whether it considered you as being in the light or darkness 00:43 yup can confirm, where the monster is at determines light/dark 00:43 being engulfed or not has no bearing 00:43 logically, you'd assume if you engulfed, it'd be dark. i get that 00:47 apropos - Outside of a Dog, a Book is Man’s Best Friend. Inside of a Dog, It’s Too Dark to Read - Mark Twain, probably. 00:48 heh 00:50 while you're here... 3.7 monster gen limit is still 120? 00:50 i think so 00:51 got I hope so. I'm doing another vanilla extinctionist run. I forgot how long these take. 00:51 made the mistake of zooming to level 29 which means I can't limit monsters at dlvl1 as well as if I was lvl 15 00:52 just means the whole zoom shows up 00:55 i'm not entirely sure how to make it so it's always considered dark when engulfed 00:55 lighting can be tricky 00:58 got an idea 00:58 light source bugs are fun fun Fun to deal with 00:58 was trying to pen up the conversation is all . . . . ;) 00:58 :) 00:59 ^to open 01:01 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 01:01 just like how the dungeon nicely provides stepladders for zombies, to eat my giant's brains. 01:02 and, yes, i got why it was considered lit, as i was in lit area.  just thought I was safe because I was dagger-volleying things w/o crumbling 01:02 and it seems it should be dark 01:02 and it was my thought as well, that it mat be hard to code 01:02 treat an engulfing monster's inside as another part of the dungeon somehow? 01:03 and here's another thing to consider. some engulfers give off light. like a fire elemental. if you were engulfed by it, it wouldnt be dark 01:03 and then there are certain monsters that would not be dark, perhaps?  Air elemental seems it would let in light. 01:03 heh 01:03 jinx 01:04 fire elemental would be lit, but is it the right kind of light to destroy dark elven stuff? 01:05 technically yes 01:05 i tried a couple different bits of code, neither worked 01:05 i need to sleep on it 01:06 so for the time being, if you know you're about to be engulfed, use #monster to darken the area around you 01:06 coding in yer dreams? 01:07 as funny as that sounds, I have dreamed code before 01:07 rare 01:07 does darkness work _inside_ a monsters? 01:07 no 01:07 i tried that 01:07 I know, there are those who profess people simply cannot read in dreams. I do it all of the time. 01:08 good to know, thanks. (dark in monster) 01:09 feedback is misleading, it makes you think it worked, but the lack of change to the to-hit display shows you're still considered in light 01:09 there should be some, odd convoluted way to 'fix' dark elven stuff. 01:09 there is. it's being in darkness 01:09 adamantine is already inherently fooproof 01:09 so normal erosion doesnt happen 01:10 light affecting dark elven admantine gear isnt normal erosion 01:11 anywho. we'll figure out a fix 01:11 its past 1am here, going to bed. gnite o/ 01:11 I do a run in a direction. and it takes me into a lit room. 01:11 get attacked. 01:11 crumble! 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:14670 (3:18:01) 01:12 happens everytime after I get some nice god-gifted stuff. 01:12 cursed magic lamp, sure. 01:12 nite. 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 23452 points, T:15248, petrified by a chickatrice 01:58 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:23 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- Regne has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:48 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:10 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 06:16 forest centaur trapped in a spiked pit, feels strange he doesn't just jump out of it :-) 07:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:54 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:54 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:00 it's a big pit 09:06 shambler on 14, that's pretty early 09:07 what is your level? 09:09 They heard THE mobileuser was in the dungeon and are racing up to catch a glimpse 09:09 heh 09:10 Xp:12 krm26 09:10 I suspect it's a special room 09:10 yeah that is crazy enough to be a poly result maybe 09:10 oh, yeah, could be caged 09:10 or could have started cage and passed through, THAT is the worst 09:11 I went back up, Aphrodite to deal with first... 09:11 caged teleporting f-ing archlich above the oracel 09:11 oof 09:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:27079 (14:02:22) 09:22 You kill the shambling horror! 09:22 3d6 claw wound leg, 3d5 claw steal gold 09:22 HORROR! 09:23 Is male, female, tiny, ungenocideable, displaced, skittish 09:24 ^ hermaphrodite 09:24 lucky :-( teleport, eat brains, behead, behead 09:24 as K2 said, at least you're neutral 09:25 doesnt save my brains 09:25 giant wearing helm of speed with 0 grease at t114k 09:25 get speed boots and oilskin toque 09:27 "get" i see 09:27 2 zaps away ;-) 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Rog Hob Mal Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:41963 (1 day, 3:59:34) 09:28 some NPC will eventually have speed boots 09:28 but my wish hoarding! 09:28 speed boots arent the issue, oilskin hat is 09:28 that one is worth a wish 09:29 wish-worthy 09:30 oops 09:30 i guess im a giant and so i shouldnt sacrifice giants god DAMMIT 09:30 :-( 09:31 i better not follow that up with this black unicorn i just killed 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Rog Hob Mal Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:42047 (1 day, 4:02:45) 09:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:33 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:39 heh 09:39 heya VaderFLAG 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Crom, on T:115743 (1 day, 8:11:38) 10:10 full healing (smoky) :-( 10:14 \o/ 10:15 it's what Carl would have wanted 10:19 i lucked out this run, normal healing (smoky) 10:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:07 will i luck out two runs in a row with my only hooa being lawful... 11:13 K2, Pinoclone fell asleep on the couch 11:15 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 11:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a katana entrusted to him by Mog, on T:42359 (1 day, 5:08:00) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to him by Mog, on T:42532 (1 day, 5:14:26) 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Rog Hob Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:42607 (1 day, 5:17:25) 12:10 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: #ditto] 12:10 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a wooden helm of speed, on T:10716 (1:32:29) 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (valkyries), on T:6303 (1:20:44) 13:10 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:8441 (1:51:00) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dwa Mal Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:73459 (10:55:16) 13:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dwa Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 dirge", on T:74960 (11:12:28) 14:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:09 DIRGE 14:12 -!- Peteird has joined #evilhack 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:30740 (16:25:58) 14:46 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:32 Status of Ixoth (male, chaotic):  Level 14  HP 188(194)  AC -3, cancelled heheh 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4361 (0:39:47) 15:33 K2 side effect of no MR from magic mirror of merlin is that ixoth is easy to cheese 15:33 I bet a wand of death would work as well 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:31643 (16:57:48) 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31644 (16:57:56) 15:34 if only the guys in the hobbit had a wand of death 15:39 or a wand of cancellation, or a wand of polymorph... 15:40 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2522 points, T:5608, killed by a spear 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:31907 (17:05:27) 15:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:31949 (17:17:33) 16:04 inspired by one of my favorite qt qdb quotes https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3751 16:08 lol 16:10 I quickly killed a mumak this game with a very corroded aklys, if only... 16:10 (admittedly I don't know how much damage my late pet cauchemar had already done) 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:119339 (1 day, 9:44:23) 16:11 F*CK 16:15 no, the magic lamp you just threw at me does NOT make up for that helm not being lawful, rng 16:19 well RNG basically just gave you another HoOA 16:20 weird level, it's full of corpses but there's no ghost 16:21 aargh what a moment to fall down a deep shaft 16:25 hmmm 16:26 sometimes you just get these mystery levels 16:26 it is a trap, if i use the lamp to wish for another hooa it will also be chaotic 16:28 heh 16:29 first room had a dead grey elf, another room was full of dead elves, drow etc, but no bones anywhere 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:122168 (1 day, 10:04:13) 16:31 the dungeon is such a tease 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Set, on T:122854 (1 day, 10:10:56) 16:43 Heya K2 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3452 (0:27:24) 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3934 (0:31:43) 17:17 grr cant hit this illithid @npc who eats my brains and i am slow and unoilskin because im in this damn hooa 17:17 -!- arahael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3185 points, T:5253, quit 17:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:34969 (18:36:22) 17:27 why are you still in the chaotic hooa 17:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:11 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 oilskin cloth toque", on T:127774 (1 day, 11:28:53) 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:127789 (1 day, 11:29:47) 19:01 getting giant strength up to 25 is such a pain in the butt without cannibalism 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed marker", on T:128041 (1 day, 11:40:51) 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) murdered Presta, her faithful djinni, on T:128982 (1 day, 12:03:30) 19:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:75516 (11:25:43) 19:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:130418 (1 day, 12:23:02) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:130713 (1 day, 12:25:45) 19:57 <@Loggers_VIII> it’s weird that giants have to go through the 18/** nonsense 19:58 <@Loggers_VIII> for races that can get to 19 st or above, they should just go from 18 to 19. the way it is right now doesn’t make much sense to me 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) genocided beholders, on T:132713 (1 day, 13:06:57) 20:54 K2, Pinoclone's still down it seems 21:08 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Gia Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:135002 (1 day, 13:46:07) 21:23 Umbire yeah i've been gone awhile 21:23 ah 21:24 no rush, apologies 21:25 @e?vorpal jabberwock 21:25 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis 21:43 -!- 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