00:00 another summoned locust overtook my long-time friend a mountain centaur, became untame, and the very next turn was engulfed/eaten by a pet. 00:00 boredboardbored: are you playing on hardfought? 00:00 Fort Ludios is absolutely filled with insects. 00:01 oh Magus? 00:01 oh no! I am known! 00:02 :) 00:02 it was only a matter of time. 00:02 I know. here I am spilling the gory details! 00:03 pets are expendable. They're just meat for the machine 00:03 -!- boredboardbored8 has joined #evilhack 00:04 the insect summoning reminds me of the early days of pets summoning nasties 00:04 if you don't like it then ditch the summoner in sokoban or somewhere 00:05 and pets are far more valuable when you have been making strategic plans for a very very long time to get one specific pet for one specific purpose. 00:05 oh, it is gone. it is not worth the headache 00:05 what pet is that? 00:05 I've been creating closets and locking them in it. 00:06 yellow dragon for Medusa as a pacifist. 00:06 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 00:06 oh, are you doing pacifist? 00:07 was also gonna be cockatrices and stoners, but did not want to deal with them, so I genocided them. 00:07 -!- boredboardbored has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:07 Still find it funny that a pacifist supports the genocide movement. 00:08 irony 00:08 well, good luck with it. That's a conduct I've only managed to get about 50 turns in before dying. 00:08 now I am worried Vampire Mages and Archons summon insects? 00:09 or is it only priest/cleric type? 00:09 priest/cleric/shaman 00:09 I am not sure if pacifist can be done in EvilHack. 00:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20891 (4:21:35) 00:09 But am gonna try to get as far as I can. 00:10 I like doing extinctionist, but I think in evilhack it'll take years. 00:10 I've done vanilla and xnethack. 00:10 The level 70+ monsters seem it may be hard.  even with conflict. 00:11 yeah was also considerding extinctionist myself. 00:11 but with all of the added monsters?  whoa. 00:11 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:11 and virtually no magic markers to rewrite spellbooks 00:11 I have pacifist ascensions in vanilla and Slash'EM. 00:12 Nearly had an extinctionist in vanilla, but they removed 3.4.3 from NAO, and my savefile. 00:12 Was actually in the middle of actively playing it, too! 00:12 Thanks, Obama 00:13 So, did Butt-Head score on that Ass? 00:16 the magic marker nerf is odd.  why not just make the odds .005% chance of getting one via polypile? 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5176 points, T:6427, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:24 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 00:25 -!- boredboardbored8 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:27 [hdf-au] [evil] ocnda (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:15652 (4:16:28) 00:28 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2407 (0:24:25) 01:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ba767aee7f37...1d8d65665a6b 01:31 [EvilHack] k21971 1d8d656 - More adjustments to monster spellcasting. 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7698 points, T:3990, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 01:35 !tell boredboardbored see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/1d8d65665a6b8aae51d8db908d002d3e90fee2a7 01:35 No worries, K2, I've got this! 01:36 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 01:41 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/1d8d65665a6b...9c633a10422d 01:48 [EvilHack] k21971 9f319d1 - Tweak to excess pets becoming peaceful or hostile. 01:48 [EvilHack] k21971 9c633a1 - Revert 'Putting Magicbane into a bag of holding has a chance of causing the bag to explode'. 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:48240 (13:16:41) 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:48241 (13:16:53) 01:49 @fubaz these recent commits are live, you may want to save/reload to catch the changes 01:51 gnite all o/ 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 7754 points, T:3855, killed by an orc shaman 02:10 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:49345 (13:42:50) 02:15 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:18 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 466 points, T:682, killed by a rothe 02:25 [hdf-au] [evil] ocnda (Rog Hob Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scales", on T:16999 (4:53:16) 02:26 <@fubaz> What spawns in quest level if you genocide/extinct that monster class? 02:27 <@fubaz> Also, do you see if you extincted mobs, not *genocided via scroll* in #conduct 02:28 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:32 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:33 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:45 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:49 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:52 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:55 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:06 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 05:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4771 (1:30:05) 05:40 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3247 05:40 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:42 monster spellcasting tweaked again I see 05:43 looks sensible 05:43 also, I am the last one to ascend with a Magicbane that can potentially explode your BoH :-) 05:44 -!- Guest3247 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:45 Oh that got changed? 05:46 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 05:47 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:48 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/9c633a10422d77f968ea0ecf2a9bde7ec3211960 06:13 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 06:14 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:25 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 06:27 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:27 -!- Glasshopper has joined #evilhack 06:29 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 06:30 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:32 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:37 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:49 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 06:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58 no complaints but I'm surprised it stuck for as long as it did 07:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 07:05 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:15 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 07:16 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3886 (0:51:04) 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1863 (0:32:09) 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4610 (1:01:43) 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2059 (0:35:20) 08:06 [hdf-au] [evil] ocnda (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a cloak of protection entrusted to her by Mog, on T:21492 (7:22:53) 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2305 (0:18:14) 08:09 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3464 08:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:12 -!- Guest3464 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:14 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3380 08:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:17 -!- Guest3380 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:20 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5432 08:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:21 -!- Guest5432 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 4181 points, T:4719, killed by an orc shaman 08:30 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a gold broadsword entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26436 (10:11:30) 08:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:15181 (1:32:13) 08:40 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:26813 (10:21:04) 08:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:15219 (1:37:28) 09:24 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 102 points, T:125, killed by a water moccasin 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Venus, on T:2433 (0:11:10) 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2949 (0:13:59) 09:47 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 09:47 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3032 (0:47:50) 09:48 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:54 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 09:55 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4857 (0:34:32) 10:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:19945 (2:56:37) 10:05 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5268 (0:40:29) 10:06 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4175 points, T:3683, killed by the Goblin King 10:11 -!- sludge_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:15 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 10:16 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:17 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 10:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 mithril helm of brilliance", on T:28671 (5:09:58) 10:19 Was the game updated yesterday? I'm trying to troubleshoot this major major problem I'm having with evilhack. The keys on my keyboard (certain keys) don't register the correct key suddenly 10:20 also the way the menus work, like when i apply my bag of holding the options are different. I'm not sure if something has changed 10:20 I thought maybe it was something corrupted with the options so I copied my options file from Euro server and same problems 10:21 for example shift-K registers as capital E 10:21 as does shift-P (it is capital E) 10:22 i'm gonna make a new account and start a new evil game and see if it happens 10:22 its not the game 10:23 well when I started a new character under a new userid it works fine 10:23 but thanks 10:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 10:24 someone will come along and actually offer to help 10:24 excuse me? 10:24 It's not the game 10:24 right 10:24 its not. i dont mess with key bindings 10:25 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:25 if something like that had happened, would have heard about it a long time ago 10:25 Ok. So again, someone else hopefully will offer some constructive help. I don't expect you to. I'm glad to know it's not the game. I must have screwed up my options. I'm trying to troubleshoot 10:26 i'll go on reddit and ask 10:27 you're one dumb comment away from getting booted from this channel rebatela. i am trying to help but you wanna get snarky right away 10:28 'its not the game' means you can rule that out and focus elsewhere on what the problem might be 10:28 ok. I took it the wrong way 10:28 text doesn't always translate 10:28 sorry 10:28 like legit sorry 10:30 i'm gonna delete my options file and see if it still happens 10:31 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 10:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33 it's so weird. It won't let me type certain capital letters (even after coping over a new .rc file) 10:33 like capital P it types as capital E 10:34 but yeah it's definitely not the game. Some problem on my end. 10:34 sorry again 10:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 10:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:44 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 11045 points, T:8844, killed by a water elemental of Venus 10:56 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:07 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 11:07 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:13 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 11:13 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:29 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 11:31 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:43 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 11:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52 <@fubaz> How much does vulnerability increase elemental dmg against 11:52 <@fubaz> 1 already vulnerable enemies (eg mummies fire) 11:52 <@fubaz> 2) no vuln or resistance 11:52 <@fubaz> 3) intrinsic and/or extrinsic resistance 11:57 if a monster have an elemental vulnerability, it'll take 1.5x the damage from that type of attack 12:04 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 12:05 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:19 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 12:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:26 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 12:29 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23190 (3:46:28) 12:43 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 12:47 rebatala, do you have multiple languages setup on your computer? Sometimes that happens to me, a non-english language gets selected and all hell breaks loose. ... oh they left 12:58 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 13:00 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:07 <@fubaz> Got a gnoll cleric upstairs, scroll of taming, and xiuhcoatl. Finna be lit 🔥 13:08 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:25539 (4:15:05) 13:30 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 13:31 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 13:32 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:38 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9c633a10422d...78c55d694b96 13:38 [EvilHack] k21971 78c55d6 - Fix: filename in evilhack-cpp.yml, change checkout from v3 to v4. 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3176 (0:41:11) 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3291 (0:43:02) 14:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:26 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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My thought is that if they had access to a wand of fire, fire branded oprop weapon, or fire based spell, they would elect to throw an unlit potion 17:26 <@fubaz> Maybe GitHub is place to have such discussion. Haven’t hacked on non trivial c or nethack src, but I’d be happy to try my hand at such a task 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1334 (0:38:22) 17:28 irc's a great place to spitball design ideas 17:29 I don't think fire vulnerability makes the most sense, really what you'd be going for is a state where you're actively covered in burning oil and take continuous fire damage 17:30 <@fubaz> It’d be just like vulnerability spell if hit 17:31 <@fubaz> E.g. you’re covered in oil for a while so you are more flammable 17:34 <@fubaz> Hmm interesting idea 17:38 <@fubaz> Oil doesn’t really evaporate either so I was thinking also of leaving a puddle of oil denoted by black ‘~’ that could 17:38 <@fubaz> 1) cause you to slip like ice 17:38 <@fubaz> 2) get on your boots, slicking them up with oil 17:38 <@fubaz> 3) if aoe fire or fire bolt ray passes over it, deal extra damage and have increased chance of burning boots 17:39 <@fubaz> Oil doesn’t really evaporate either so I was thinking also of leaving a puddle of oil denoted by black ‘~’ upon shattering in empty space that could 17:39 <@fubaz> 1) cause you to slip like ice 17:39 <@fubaz> 2) get on your boots, slicking them up with oil 17:39 <@fubaz> 3) if aoe fire or fire bolt ray passes over it, deal extra damage and have increased chance of burning boots 17:39 <@fubaz> Oil doesn’t really evaporate either so I was thinking also of leaving a puddle of oil denoted by black ‘~’ upon shattering in empty space that could 17:39 <@fubaz> 1) cause you to slip like ice 17:40 <@fubaz> 2) get on your boots, slicking them up with oil, possibly disappearing in process 17:40 <@fubaz> 3) if aoe fire or fire bolt ray passes over it, deal extra damage and have increased chance of burning boots 17:41 <@fubaz> Oil doesn’t really evaporate either so I was thinking also of leaving a puddle of oil denoted by black ‘~’ upon shattering in empty space that could 17:41 <@fubaz> 1) cause you to slip like ice 17:41 <@fubaz> 2) get on your boots, slicking them up with oil, possibly disappearing in process 17:41 <@fubaz> 3) if aoe fire or fire bolt ray passes over it, deal extra fire damage to whatever is in square and have increased chance of burning boots 17:41 are you re-editing this message or something, on irc it looks like you've posted the same thing 4 times 17:41 <@fubaz> Sorry, yes I’m on discord. I’ll refrain from that 17:42 anyway yes, puddles of oil are a sound concept, I think the main reason no one has implemented them is because oil's rare enough and these effects not big enough to really be worth it 17:43 I would say instead of a terrain feature, have it be an item in the . class (and then change things so . class objects can rest on the floor, but cannot be picked up) 17:43 the discord bridge didnt used to convey edits, i should ask mtf about that 17:44 <@fubaz> What’s ice terrain considered? 17:44 it's terrain 17:45 but, that also makes it mutually exclusive with any other terrain type, if you had a "potion of ice" that could turn a square to ice or something, you'd need to consider how it interacts with sinks, altars, doors, etc 17:46 <@fubaz> I see 17:46 <@fubaz> Oily ice would be quite slippery 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:32054 (6:19:28) 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful gargantuan spider, on T:32222 (6:24:34) 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4169 (1:04:20) 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 boots of speed", on T:4212 (1:05:00) 17:59 <@fubaz> Maybe it’d be best to put oil puddle in trap class and have it do “The pool of oil lubricates the ” unless it’s a squeaky board, which would just untrap then 18:00 <@fubaz> When it hits a trap square, obv 18:04 <@fubaz> I just feel that oil gets kinda boring once you rustproof weapons and find reliable light sources 18:09 <@loggers_viii> if puddle of oil was a thing it’d be better as ~ I think, at least aesthetically 18:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:09 <@loggers_viii> actually, } cuz that’s the same as shallow water 18:11 <@fubaz> Trap would also mean oil could float on top of water and water puddles 18:12 <@fubaz> What happens right now if unlit thrown oil hits lava? 18:13 -!- boredboardbored has joined #evilhack 18:15 dunno about evilhack but in vanilla it just shatters and nothing happens 18:15 and traps/terrain of oil can be 'untrapped'/removed with a towel. 18:15 boredboardbored: Message from K2 at 2024-07-31 01:35 EDT: see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/1d8d65665a6b8aae51d8db908d002d3e90fee2a7 18:15 towel becomes soaked with oil and can no longer be used as a towel. 18:15 at a forge you can combine clubs and oil-soaked towels to create torches 18:15 torches can be used to enflame arrows for a few turns. 18:15 yeah if you drop a potion of oil onto lava, nothing happens 18:16 oil can be washed off in a moast 18:16 ^moat 18:16 odd that the devteam didnt make a case for that already 18:17 new obj: kitty litter. used to untrap oil slicks 18:17 also used as traction get out of pits quicker 18:18 living in snowy clime kitty litter is a good thing to keep in yer car 18:19 that or just sand bags fore weight, too 18:26 i have a set of these in the truck - https://maxtraxus.com/collections/4x4-traction-boards/products/maxtrax-mkii-olive-drab 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:53089 (15:15:30) 18:26 have helped quite a few ppl with those (and myself) 18:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/78c55d694b96...3e00950f7e3e 18:29 [EvilHack] k21971 3e00950 - Switch status from beta to released. 18:29 <@loggers_viii> \o/ 18:29 [EvilHack] k21971 published v0.8.4 | Release build of EvilHack 0.8.4 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases/tag/v0.8.4 18:30 good thing that casting pets were tweaked a bit. 18:30 my thought was that pets would only cast summon insects at monsters that are hostile towards player and only cast it when higher level monsters are around (may be hard to code) 18:30 and of course, i know, it was removed, and that is the solution 18:30 they'd cast it at hostile to player and also any grudges 18:31 e.g. zombies 18:31 so, 0.8.4 release. past experience says this is how we find critical bugs in that version hah 18:32 build is successful - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases/tag/v0.8.4 18:33 [EvilHack] k21971 created branch 0.8.4 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack 18:33 [EvilHack] k21971 created branch 0.8.4 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/3e00950f7e3e1768df5d9f13583906cee5d3bcb7 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a staff of escape bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:53456 (15:26:02) 18:43 alrighty. no more updates to current version unless it's a critical bug fix 18:44 we'll aim to have 0.9.0 out the door before xmas 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:53644 (15:39:22) 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:53864 (15:41:00) 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:53902 (15:41:51) 18:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:56 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 18:56 tell me 0.9 is drood 18:56 or is 0.9 submarine 18:56 drude 18:56 drude, where's my car 18:57 -!- K2 changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1eh0zk1 18:57 ^ new reddit link 18:57 in case some of you block topic updates - https://redd.it/1eh0zk1 18:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:59 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:51599 (15:03:03) 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:54261 (16:04:46) 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:69025 (1 day, 17:27:54) 19:43 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 19:43 -!- molybdenum.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1eh0zk1 19:43 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 19:43 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 19:43 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 19:50 !who 19:50 K2: [hdf-us] elron [evil] Magus [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players :: [hdf-eu] Regne [evil] 19:55 -!- boredboardbored has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:57 <@fubaz> I assume MOTD will be updated too? 19:57 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 19:57 -!- silver.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1eh0zk1 19:57 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 19:57 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 19:57 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:54546 (16:24:01) 20:01 !who 20:01 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] elron [evil] fubaz [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:54664 (16:25:35) 20:04 shadowblade and glamdring, wooo 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:55132 (16:31:37) 20:09 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:55216 (16:33:17) 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:55218 (16:33:27) 20:14 <@fubaz> @Pinkbeast, not seeing garter snakes, snakes, or pythons anymore even on quest level. Confirmed extinct 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:55801 (16:46:18) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:57032 (16:05:55) 20:48 Speaking of Arcs, I'm trying to work my way through as much of the role article overhauls as I can so we can get proper variant subpages going 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:57574 (16:13:30) 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1544 (0:08:02) 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:59638 (16:42:32) 21:23 <@fubaz> Altar scumming few 21:24 <@fubaz> Not a whole lot of snakes are left besides giant anacondas 21:24 <@fubaz> *ftw 21:29 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering an orc shaman corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:6386 (2:06:24) 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12021 points, T:6386, killed by a death ray 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4575 points, T:7071, killed by a giant cockroach 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:60824 (17:10:52) 22:00 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 22:01 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 22:06 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:09 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:19 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:62582 (17:40:16) 22:24 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:834 (0:03:41) 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1346 (0:05:33) 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1633 (0:08:18) 22:37 <@fubaz> If i had god gifted artifact, does it reduce my chances of wishing for a future artifact? 22:37 no 22:38 how often you wish for an artifact affects your chances 22:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:39 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3769 (0:23:40) 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5457 points, T:3769, killed by a death ray 22:56 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 23:00 -!- omnisnow has joined #evilhack 23:01 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2367 (0:27:03) 23:14 -!- omnisnow has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:67428 (18:47:20) 23:29 <@fubaz> Extinctionism w/ Altar scumming worked. Nothing but giant anacondas now. 23:30 <@fubaz> 2x spawn certainly helped too 23:31 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 23:35 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1406 points, T:1560, killed by the Goblin King 23:55 <@fubaz> Do sacrifices eventually give diminishing returns?