00:22 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:37 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7fce5fb98e16...fbf3c421a7d2 00:48 [EvilHack] k21971 c6b090c - Fix: corrections to last commit (monster clerical spells at range). 00:48 [EvilHack] k21971 fbf3c42 - Wand of probing or a stethoscope used on oneself will show elemental vulnerabilities. 00:49 !who 00:49 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 00:56 latest commits are live 00:56 gnite o/ 00:58 Night K2 00:58 should be wikified before you wake 01:17 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:23 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:26 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 02:31 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:57 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 03:02 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:04 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 03:12 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Wiz Hob Mal Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:39594 (17:47:14) 04:00 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 04:04 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:05 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:17 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 04:27 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 04:54 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:21 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 05:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:10 What, ranged vulnerability, sounds awful. 06:12 Is there way to recover from vulnerability? 06:12 I know only to wait enough time. 06:13 YANI: one could eat corpses or tins that convey resistance to override corresponding vulnerability. 06:14 Like one can prepare 5 blessed tins of red or yellow dragons, can eat one once being vulnerable. 06:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:16 YANI: unicorns can attack you when at kngiht's move range, so they can teleport to the knight's move position and attack you, must to deal with hostile ones quickly. 06:25 I have a gnoll cleric near my altar providing me with insects, I wonder if the new changes mean I will have to kill it now 06:32 so far, so good... 06:33 The gnoll cleric casts a spell! Severe wounds appear on your body! 06:33 heheh 06:33 ranged 06:35 Wow, is that hurt? 06:35 Maybe you can take the damage. 06:36 I can easily take the damage (HP:243) 06:37 Heh no problem. 06:37 "You hear something cast a spell!" is a new one I didn't get yesterday 06:38 I've partially surrounded my altar with boulders 06:39 probably just the gnoll cleric casting protection 06:42 "A purplish-blue film oozes over your skin! You feel extremely chilly." 06:42 yeah that one is not funny 06:43 Yes, no way to recover I think. 06:43 You can take the vulnerability with enough hp early. 06:43 But I guess gehennom would be very annoying. 06:44 Like you get surrounded and cannot deal with a spellcaster quickly, they make you vulnerable to fire. 06:53 killed the gnoll cleric, this was getting too annoying 06:54 K2 wins :-P 07:08 rock troll: no polearm 07:10 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:41 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:48 hmmm no guilty message after a kitten got killed by the freezin sphere explosion that I caused 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:8413 (0:32:09) 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2334 points, T:8424, quit 07:54 !whereis mobileuser 07:54 hackemslashem: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil]: (Hea Gia Mal Neu) T:81385 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a little dart 08:09 lol even goblin shamans can cast at a distance now 08:09 future fun in goblin town 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 10482 points, T:5843, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome queen 08:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Gia Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:84337 (1 day, 12:03:53) 08:27 FINALLY 08:27 \o/ 08:29 T:84337 lol 08:30 brb 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 252 points, T:355, killed by a crossbow bolt of fire 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3011 (0:39:24) 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a pseudodragon, on T:3379 (0:41:48) 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (disintegrated by an antimatter vortex), on T:3386 (0:42:21) 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5903 points, T:3387, quit 08:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3442 (0:50:28) 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 17439 points, T:18593, killed by an elven lord 08:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3896 (0:54:49) 08:58 <@fubaz> !lastgame 08:58 @fubaz: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dedal/evilhack/dumplog/1721476464.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fubaz/evilhack/dumplog/1721283952.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/ocnda/evilhack/dumplog/1721444122.evil.html 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 357 points, T:962, killed by a large spider 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a knife entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1104 (0:05:35) 09:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 715 points, T:1963, killed by a giant bat 09:19 dammit 09:19 second djinni from a smoky potion that refuses to give me a wish 09:23 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 09:25 Good morning all, and happy full moon to everyone! I ate a rotten piece of food and got the first message that I'm confused. So I read an identified scroll of enchant armor and while it did add +1 to my shield it came with a silver glow but did NOT get rustproofed. Is that intentional or an oversight? 09:27 BTW, the ? of enchant armor is uncursed 09:27 Were you still confused by the time you read it? 09:28 Yes, I can se that I'm confused in my status line. 09:28 see 09:33 what is material of the shield 09:33 oh 09:34 "it did add +1 to my shield" 09:34 then you were not confused 09:34 Hmmm, let me try again. 09:34 and what is the material? 09:36 Hmmm, it worked this time. Perhaps the first turn or so after eating the bad material you get the message but aren't actually confused? I'd have to look at my TTREC to be sure. 09:36 uncursed fireproof +4 small shield 09:36 My shield is now rustproof 09:36 \o/ 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2845 (0:14:28) 09:37 fireproof, yes. 09:37 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 09:37 yeah it says something like "you are starting to feel confused" or something, without the Conf status 09:37 Ok, thanks for pointing out what I must have missed ! 09:38 Yeah, I had a feeling 09:40 ok, wiki says the message is "You feel slightly confused.", but you then have to wait a bit for the actual confusion status 09:41 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:50 speaking of the wiki, I take it you're working on adding the latest stuff to evil's page mobileuser? 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 adamantine war hammer of warning named the Means of Production", on T:43930 (1 day, 12:37:46) 10:05 Umbire no 10:05 Ah 10:05 I can take a swing at that if you like, then 10:06 Kinda wanted to but didn't wanna interfere if you were doing it 10:06 yes please 10:06 I see you promised K2 ;-) 10:08 and you couldn't at least help me out :B 10:10 quips aside I at least have it taken care of on a few other articles 10:11 nice 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6825 (0:51:02) 10:14 ok wtf 10:14 a mind flayer larva in the healer quest 10:14 ^ K2 10:15 sorry false alarm K2, polymorph trap 10:16 lmaoooooo 10:16 jumpscared 10:17 but honestly I get it, had to develop an instinct to check for poly wands or traps when that happens 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7332 (0:57:00) 10:20 a ";" monster on a water level 10:21 it didn't go into the water, shallow water only probably? 10:22 Yeah it's made for life in shallow pools 10:23 so it'd track if that were the case 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:7703 (1:01:58) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:38058 (21:28:52) 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8408 (1:06:34) 10:29 bbl 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed King Arthur, on T:44186 (1 day, 13:05:39) 10:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:9094 (1:13:06) 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:38391 (21:39:54) 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:38427 (21:41:10) 10:39 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38438 (21:41:38) 10:41 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 10:45 heh 10:45 morning! 10:51 aw mobileuser isnt here. was gonna ask how his friend the gnoll cleric was :P 11:09 lol 11:09 working on wikifying recent commits 11:11 i think I might make a small tweak to how often group leaders spawn 11:11 right now its 100% of the time, i may make it random 11:13 random would be fun imo, yeah 11:23 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 11:33 that should cover the important stuff 11:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/fbf3c421a7d2...8dba35386329 11:35 [EvilHack] k21971 8dba353 - Tweak certain monsters and what they grow up into. 11:35 instead of random, just make the group leader a bit more appropriate level wise 11:37 that's live 11:41 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:59 <@fubaz> Xiuhcoatl doesn’t confer any resistances/extrinsics, correct? 12:07 in include/artilist.h, I see DFNS(AD_FIRE) 12:07 for Xiuhcoatl 12:08 I assume that means fire resistance 12:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:17 <@fubaz> Oops didn’t rtfm, but it’s not easy to find 12:17 <@fubaz> Archeologist quest doesn’t mention it on variants section of wiki 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Bar Cen Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3820 (0:38:06) 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Bar Cen Mal Neu), 5451 points, T:3841, killed by a piranha 12:19 wow, that Gnomish wizard stunned me for a really really long time. That was very odd. 12:19 I even prayed once and was healed but the stunned condition wasn't removed. And I was right next to water so I kept getting nearly drowned if I tried to move. 12:19 tinklebear correct 12:20 I've never seen a wizard stun me for that long before. That was a record stun-length by quite a bit for my games. 12:20 stun attack can stack 12:20 fyi 12:20 oh, it was probably a pretty deep stack then. 12:20 its the same stun code in vanilla 12:20 I can remember having more than one stunlock disaster in minetown due to the gnomish wiztwins 12:20 Esp if you only have MC0, then its pretty rough 12:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of cloth falconry gloves on an altar, on T:6415 (1:27:05) 12:21 @fubaz - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Artifacts 12:23 <@fubaz> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Archeologist_quest. No mention here 12:23 anything concerning evilhack, always check https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack first 12:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 6460 points, T:6507, killed by an orcish soldier 12:23 you're more than welcome to add an entry to the wiki on the archeologist page 12:23 anyone can edit 12:24 <@fubaz> Yeah, might. I just want to make sure i had properties right. 12:25 It's not mentioned on the quest page because quest pages only cover vanilla for the most part 12:25 Umbire has been good about making individual pages for artifacts and such 12:25 a couple've been edited to mention variants but honestly they need like, sub-pages and stuff like the roles got for SLASH'EM 12:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] dedal (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 4 points, T:9, killed by a system shock 12:25 esp. with variants like Evil changing layouts 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a stone crude dagger on an altar, on T:3891 (0:50:53) 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:9258 (1:15:15) 12:28 speaking of the wiki I'm p. sure that last Evil commit was done just to annoy me /j 12:28 messing with the NATURAL ORDER 12:29 and all hell will break loose once the green and grey elves start a grudge 12:29 :) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:9488 (1:19:42) 12:33 -!- bgt32 has joined #evilhack 12:33 -!- bgt32 is now known as k3ut0i 12:35 <@fubaz> Re casters being able to use offensive spells at range — does it follow usual directional rules and is there a max range? 12:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a rock gnome, on T:10120 (1:30:43) 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:12940 (1:54:52) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:12952 (1:55:15) 13:10 the monster cancellation spell I assume acts like a beam... 13:11 ...and if so, then to hit you, there needs to be a straight line of squares from the caster to you 13:12 s/hit/affect/ (beams always hit) 13:12 <@loggers_viii> correct 13:12 other spells, however, like "blasts you with fire/ice" are not constrained to straight lines 13:13 <@loggers_viii> right, fire and ice blast are los-based 13:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:13 <@loggers_viii> I think open wounds became los-based along with a couple other clerical spells recently 13:14 <@loggers_viii> luckily not paralysis though 13:14 hah 13:15 think I had one case where the caster was at knight's jump distance 13:15 not completely sure 13:15 which spell? cancellation? 13:16 no, I think the "open wounds" one 13:16 i see 13:16 10:51 aw mobileuser isnt here. was gonna ask how his friend the gnoll cleric was :P 13:16 dead :-) 13:17 resting 13:17 in heaven, sacced on an altar 13:18 thorough 13:19 I got the sewers this game, and remembered what you said about the Rat King's ring, mobileuser 13:19 ...and?? 13:19 saved the day 13:19 \o/ 13:20 :D 13:23 I was trying everything else... jumping down holes, repeatedly stepping on the teletraps... 13:28 well, not literally everything else. no xorn stuff 13:29 but I had no id scrolls, and it would have taken me forever to discover that ring was what I needed 13:30 and by the time I had, I would have forgotten where I obtained it 13:30 he doesn't always have the ring, this is evilhack after all ;-) 13:30 of course! 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 68172 points, T:16591, killed by a rock troll 13:38 @loggers_viii open wounds not los confirmed 13:39 hill giant shaman just cast it from quite a distance away 13:41 ...but A coppery-yellow film oozes over your skin! was los 13:41 7 squares away 13:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:51 <@loggers_viii> what, the hill giant cast it without being able to see you? That sounds wrong 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:39926 (22:17:09) 13:57 well he saw me @loggers_viii 13:57 but not in a direct line 13:58 oof ranged open wounds, spicy! 13:58 ah I guess I have a different meaning in mind of "line of sight" 13:59 I always think of it as a straight line 14:00 ranged open wounds is not such a big problem, the elemental vulnerability is much worse imo 14:00 Looks like there is no range cap as of now. Spells like fire/cold/acid bold have a max range of 13 squares I think 14:01 And I don't think the vulnerability spell checks any vision, may/maynot be a bug? 14:09 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 7070 points, T:14074, killed by an orc shaman 14:37 <@fubaz> !lastgame 14:37 @fubaz: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dedal/evilhack/dumplog/1721492735.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fubaz/evilhack/dumplog/1721489772.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/ocnda/evilhack/dumplog/1721444122.evil.html 14:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01 @fubaz orc shaman casting "open wounds" at a distance, that's what I was afraid would happen 15:01 08:09 future fun in goblin town 15:02 <@fubaz> In fairness I fainted a lot 15:03 :-) 15:03 <@fubaz> Some stuff can cast at you way down corridor if they have infravision 15:04 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3982 (0:24:57) 15:04 <@fubaz> If I get highly enchanted dagger and my role only gets basic two weapon, should I not forge it to another weapon? 15:05 <@fubaz> Do polymorphed items keep enchants and egos? 15:05 forging: depends on your role's weapon skills? 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +1 bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:4283 (0:27:09) 15:06 polymorph: I don't think they keep enchantments and object properties constant 15:09 [backscroll] the three clerical monster spells that became ranged, the caster has to be able to see you to cast them on you 15:10 fire bolt/ice bolt/acid blast have an actual max range, about 8 squares 15:10 cancellation, has to be direct line of sight (straight line from it to you) 15:11 'the caster has to be able to see you to cast them on you' as in actually see you, not sense you 15:12 i purposely left blindness/curse/confusion/paralyzation as melee range. esp para, that would have been too evil if ranged 15:13 @fubaz what is 'egos' ? 15:13 <@fubaz> of 15:13 I think fubaz refers to oprops as egos for some reason 15:13 what is ego? 15:13 ah 15:14 <@fubaz>