00:00 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3908 (0:53:46) 00:14 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2627 points, T:5928, killed by a winter wolf 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +3 spear on an altar, on T:4823 (1:15:43) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 885 points, T:1710, killed by a kobold zombie 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 434 points, T:1997, killed by a little dog 01:11 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu), 489 points, T:752, killed by a large spider 01:37 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:06 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 02:27 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 02:33 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1446 (0:49:33) 02:35 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 02:35 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Killed (lithium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:35 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 02:43 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:43 K2: There seems to be a bug with minetown. I fell down a trapdoor into minetown without killing the goblin king. The stairs down from minetown are blocked, instead of the the stairs to minetown. 02:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:2731 (1:13:00) 02:58 what! I didn't 02:59 seems an elf zombie got a lucky hit in. 03:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:02 k3ut0i you will have to do a "tell", K2 is away for a few days 03:03 yeah! I forgot about that. 03:04 !tell K2 I fell down into minetown without before killing the goblin king. The stairs down from minetown are blocked instead of the stairs to minetown. 03:04 Will do, k3ut0i! 03:09 That's normal, lets you at least get out 03:10 to my limited knowledge 03:11 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:13 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 03:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:26825 (12:03:28) 03:17 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Vita Fidelia, her faithful warhorse, on T:67813 (2 days, 23:03:22) 03:34 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4994 03:34 -!- Guest4994 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 03:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:37 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4545 03:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:41 -!- Guest4545 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:41 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:01 !tell K2 I think falling down the trap door skipped a level. I cannot get back into minetown again. 04:01 I'm on it, k3ut0i. 04:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3275 (2:16:55) 04:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3594 (2:21:22) 04:17 Hey, new player "k3ut1i" :-) 04:21 -!- k3ut0i is now known as k3ut1i 04:21 mobileuser hi, nice to be here 04:22 -!- k3ut1i is now known as k3ut0i 04:52 lol 04:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4733 (2:56:52) 04:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Val Cen Fem Neu), 17938 points, T:4734, killed by the Rat King, while praying 04:54 :( 04:56 oof yeah, Rat King can be dangerous 05:00 got too cocky. I forgot about displacement 05:24 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:38 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 05:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:59 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 06:02 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 06:07 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 -!- Grassy has joined #evilhack 06:07 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 06:08 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10 -!- Loveaabb1 has joined #evilhack 06:14 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Rog Dra Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3349 (1:13:39) 06:17 -!- Loveaabb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:29979 (8:37:37) 06:33 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 06:38 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:40 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 06:50 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4223 (0:49:36) 06:53 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4398 (0:51:59) 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu), 6860 points, T:5059, killed by a hill orc called Ogthosu of Airukaiun, while sleeping 07:03 <@malorpower> 2 games in a row died to sleep wand in Orc town. 07:04 they are guaranteed access to them from the dead shopkeeper so it pays to be cautious 07:05 (well, sometimes the wands stay safely beneath boulders, but you get the point) 07:06 <@malorpower> oh, I didn't realize it was a 100% that Orc town has sleep wands. 07:07 one of the many reasons orctown is the best town! 07:07 guaranteed coaligned altar, guaranteed general store, sleep wands, good magic lamp chance, lots of orcs to eat and sacrifice...good times 07:07 <@malorpower> I guess if you know how not to die to them. I don't obviously. 07:08 well any role can start by eating sting and orcrist 07:08 <@malorpower> eating sting? 07:08 name sting, elves! yum yum 07:08 elves will frequently come to reclaim sting and orcrist when they are named 07:08 <@malorpower> oh, I see, naming sting gives you a few elves to fight and then eat. 07:09 <@malorpower> I had eaten 1 elf in this game. But I think you need to eat something like 13 to be sleep resistant? 07:09 husbanding a strong pet can also help preserve you against a quick sleep 07:09 each elf you eat will slightly reduce the average time you spend sleeping, too 07:09 so every one is a benefit, even before immunity 07:10 controlling line of sight is important, too, so you are always fighting adjacent without anyone else having ranged on you 07:10 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 07:10 also important for the potential poison arrows, the REAL big threat of orctown 07:10 <@malorpower> I figured that was the case. 07:10 <@malorpower> I'm not happy that pets seem so vital based on feedback I've gotten. 07:10 <@malorpower> I have played without a pet for a long time without incident. 07:10 you dont need a pet, but they are super-helpful in many situations 07:10 just like you dont NEED your starting gear, but you are making everything harder by dropping it on your first turn 07:11 in early game evilhack i try to use every little tiny advantage i can get 07:11 <@malorpower> right but my starting gear moves left every time I click left. The dog doesn't. 07:11 <@malorpower> also my starting gear doesn't eat my floating eye corpse. 07:11 if you want a better starting pet experience, play wizard -- the pseudodragons are stickier (i think due to their high speed) 07:11 PLUS, they put those nasty orcs to sleep for you 07:11 <@malorpower> I guess my starting gear also doesn't save me from dying to sleep 🙂 07:11 PLUS, one of the orcs is gonna have a saddle and then you can ride your pseudodragon and fly 07:11 you could play an elf! 07:12 (you will then die to poison :-) 07:13 even more fun than orctown is centaur cage ludious when the centaurs have both wands of death and cancellation, as has happened to me this game :-P 07:15 <@malorpower> I tried to keep my dog this game and on *level one* I literally can't find it? 07:19 fell down a trap door? 07:21 <@malorpower> maybe. I walked a reasonable amount of the level and then threw up my hands 🙂 07:25 <@malorpower> I ate a gnomish wizard and got "You feel a strange mental acuity.". That is evilhack only, right? 07:25 wizards and shamans give telepathy 07:26 yeah, floating eyes 100% and often caster-humanoids 07:26 now you can always find your pet if you can blind yourself 07:27 and if you feed an eye to your pet, you can always see your pet period 07:27 <@malorpower> oh, because you see things that have telepathy? 07:28 yup! 07:28 <@malorpower> even while not blind? 07:28 <@malorpower> ok, cool. 07:28 so always good to get that done before you poly your pet into a mammoth 07:32 <@malorpower> ok, I found my dog. I named it "Mandatory" by the way 🙂 07:34 <@malorpower> "You have a sad feeling for a moment, then it passes." 07:34 good luck! every once in a while it finds a poly trap in the mines for you and you have a pet dragon to engulf everything 07:34 <@malorpower> not sure what happened, he died off screen. 07:34 aww 07:34 carry a bunch of fortune cookies for the next dog or cat 07:35 <@malorpower> do they grow it or something? 07:35 <@malorpower> or do you mean to tame them? 07:35 no -- just the lightest food to tame them 07:36 <@malorpower> i see 07:36 (i hate weight) 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:49000 (16:43:31) 07:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut1i (Rog Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6928 (2:53:10) 07:56 <@malorpower> what is the cost for "#enhance" in evilhack? 07:56 <@malorpower> Are all the costs ONE or is basic-1, skilled-2, expert-3? 08:07 yeah, not different from vanilla. 08:07 1,2,3 08:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:14 <@malorpower> ok, I won't go to expert in spear then. 08:16 <@malorpower> "tame large cat" 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:1329 (0:11:51) 08:19 <@malorpower> how do i make the cat jump into this polymorph trap? 08:19 <@malorpower> or will it never do that? 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1297 (0:19:15) 08:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:26 magic whistle. you can't displace pets into traps 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4373 (0:59:04) 08:32 <@malorpower> 3 orc towns in a row. Wtf 08:33 :O 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1948 points, T:2047, quit 08:35 <@malorpower> do daggers mulch? 08:36 mulch? 08:36 <@malorpower> get destroyed when you throw them sometimes 08:37 ah, only fragile ones like glass and the dark elven one 08:37 <@malorpower> ok, cool. 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:36064 (10:57:45) 08:43 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5570 (1:20:55) 08:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:28110 (12:30:59) 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "sdf", on T:6591 (1:35:30) 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:643 (0:04:57) 09:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3832 (0:25:44) 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:8122 (1:58:22) 09:29 <@malorpower> so one of the two ways I have lost every game is solved 😉 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4041 (0:28:06) 09:41 now eat lots of elves! 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4034 (1:06:35) 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Venus, on T:5082 (0:39:47) 09:48 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 7274 points, T:5626, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted mountain dwarf 09:50 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 09:52 <@malorpower> i survied sleep attack #1 🙂 09:52 <@malorpower> at what power level should I name "Sting"? 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering an Uruk-hai corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4941 (1:16:51) 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had an axe entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:4943 (1:17:02) 09:55 <@malorpower> are there any *bad* cloaks in evilhack? 09:58 no harmful cloaks at least 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a mithril knife entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:5138 (1:22:59) 09:59 and name Sting if you think you can survive an attack by 3 elves 09:59 do elves follow through a portal? 10:00 <@malorpower> 3 regular elves or elf-kings or something? 10:01 regular elves 10:01 I don't think they are "followers" 10:01 so could do that near stairs or a portal 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:10192 (2:31:59) 10:04 ooh Rat King! 10:04 did he drop a ring @malorpower ? 10:04 <@malorpower> The massive hammer hits! Lightning strikes the Rat King! The Rat King's brass ring turns to dust and vanishes! 10:04 daaaarn 10:04 <@malorpower> what was his ring? 10:05 that was teleport control 10:05 would have been handy to get into the closed area.... 10:06 <@malorpower> I think I'll name Sting now. I should be able to handle 3 Elves 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:10208 (2:34:25) 10:07 <@malorpower> no elves 😦 10:07 yeah it's only a chance 10:07 there is still orcrist to name... 10:08 <@malorpower> what does that one do? 10:08 lol pretty similar to sting? I only name the things :-P 10:09 <@malorpower> yikes, I am inside a gelatenous cube. I assume just "#pray" and then run? 10:09 pray wont save you alas 10:09 teleport scroll? wand of digging? 10:10 teleport scroll is perfect, digging is good 10:10 so digging will do half damage and get you out 10:10 so if you want to kill it and have another mechanism after digging, digging is great 10:10 <@malorpower> i don't have either. 10:10 ah 10:10 what else can we think of 10:10 so on the turn before you die of suffocation, prayer will give you 4 more turns 10:10 so dont use prayer early 10:11 any ranged options? 10:11 remember they are immune to the good combat wands and horns 10:11 (not spells) 10:11 and yeah, no spellcasting when asphyxiating 10:11 so daggers, darts, aklys, etc can be used without paralyzing yourself 10:11 <@malorpower> i have daggers but I am inside him 🙂 10:11 <@malorpower> The massive hammer hits the gelatinous cube. You are frozen by the gelatinous cube! 10:11 inside means autohit 10:11 <@malorpower> The gelatinous cube touches you! The gelatinous cube engulfs you! 10:11 <@malorpower> It's impossible to breathe in here! You're gasping for air. 10:11 <@malorpower> You can no longer breathe. 10:11 <@malorpower> You can move again. 10:12 <@malorpower> These are the turns so I think I am very close to turn 4. Is there a way to calculate the # of turns correctly? 10:12 yeah melee is useless 10:12 the final message tells you -- i think it is turning blue? 10:12 that means you have one more action 10:12 and you can throw stuff inside a gelcube 10:12 and pick it up again 10:12 <@malorpower> so throw daggers then on "turning blue" turn #pray, then daggers, daggers, then die 🙂 10:13 something like that :-( 10:13 yeah 10:13 <@malorpower> ok, let's see if the "die" step happens. Probably is my guess 😦 10:13 wand of opening can also get you out 10:13 scroll of taming, might? 10:13 genocide obv 10:13 and it is a good genocide target so not a waste 10:13 taming would work 10:14 <@malorpower> ok, I got the turning blue. 10:14 #pray 10:14 stupid gods 10:14 <@malorpower> You kill the gelatinous cube!--More-- 10:14 and if you have an unidentified amulet it might be breathing 10:14 alright! grats! 10:14 woohoo! 10:15 very important to have light/warning when you are still vulnerable to gelcubes 10:15 in evilhack you can usually find scrolls of tp very early -- they appear in closets on the ground 10:15 <@malorpower> i have warning. 10:15 being invisible or displaced can help too 10:15 well then any time you see a 2 be careful 10:15 until you know it isnt a gelcube 10:15 <@malorpower> I am displaced thanks to the rat king. 10:16 <@malorpower> are there likely to be more gelcubes on this level (rat king level)? Or is one the generall number? 10:16 RNG 10:16 it was just a random monster 10:16 you never know 10:16 you are at the right xp/dungeon level now 10:17 <@malorpower> is there a map to this level somewhere? 10:18 I don't think it's on the wiki yet 10:18 the closed area is about center-left 10:19 possibly there are gray stones bottom left, top right or in the closed area 10:20 one is a loadstone, the other a luckstone 10:20 <@malorpower> ah don't eat stuff off the floor when it is inside sewage 🙂 10:20 heh 10:22 <@malorpower> so the various metal/bone types for daggers - do they do different damage or is the best one the lightest one? 10:23 different damage resistant, some have damage modifiers as well 10:23 there is an object material section of the evilhack wiki page 10:23 bone will also hit ghosts 10:23 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 10:23 <@malorpower> cool. 10:24 <@malorpower> Ok, I found one gray stone and it's in a corner of course. Is it 50/50 a loadstone basically? 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:50162 (16:55:03) 10:25 yup 10:25 sometimes you can get a monster/pet to move it to an area you can kick it for kick confirmation 10:25 or teleport it 10:26 <@malorpower> I should still eat this flesh golem, even in the sewage, right? 10:28 i would yup 10:28 great res food 10:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:29 <@malorpower> chill, perkier, amplified, healthier 10:29 <@malorpower> nice 10:29 <@malorpower> should I be sitting on thrones I find right away or wait? 10:32 <@malorpower> is there no way into the closed off room? 10:32 <@malorpower> also I didn't find another gray stone yet, so I'm going to pick up the one i did find 😦 10:32 there are two random teleporters on the level, one in the se corner and one in the nw corner 10:32 they can teleport you into the room 10:32 <@malorpower> naturally it is a lodestone. 10:32 sometimes you get teleport control off of the rat king to make it ez 10:33 as for a throne, i will sit if i am not carrying any $ and have a bunch of items to id in open inventory 10:33 <@malorpower> once inside how do I get out if I teleport in via a teleport trap? Is there one in there also? 10:35 there's *almost* always a teleport trap inside 10:35 once i found it overwritten by a web trap from a giant spider 10:38 heh, ouch 10:38 yeah, there is SUPPOSED to always be a teleporter out 10:42 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:43 <@malorpower> I'm going to go get this lodestone off me and then reset back in to get the luckstone which apparently is in the immovable box. 10:53 <@malorpower> Polymorph control ring 10:58 he vaporised the teleport control ring krm26 ;-) 10:59 at least you know it's a "brass ring" now.... 11:00 oh jeez 11:00 that means it is edible and you can get the intrinsic :-) 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a glass dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:53533 (17:32:54) 11:02 ugh 11:03 never gonna get secepita 11:03 Wow you remind me, I never have eaten rings. 11:04 <@malorpower> Is Dirge available to me? 11:04 <@malorpower> I'm a centaur valk 11:04 I think no? 11:04 Only chaotic knight. 11:04 <@malorpower> ok 11:05 <@malorpower> Question: I should NOT advance "hammer" to expert since it will be limited by "skilled" in 2-weapon, right? 11:06 well, if you're gonna toss mjolnir around you could get some slight benefit from expert 11:06 you may also find situations where you need the additional to hit of using just one weapon 11:07 To me understanding I guess yes? 11:07 I may try to train daggers or lances for ranged attack for some situations. 11:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:09 Expert requires too much skill points, and I guess often in evilhack one melee weapon may not able to solve all problem. 11:09 <@malorpower> I have skilled in dagger, spear, hammer 11:09 <@malorpower> That's my training so far. 11:09 <@malorpower> I stopped all 3 before expert for point fear. 11:09 you can always use blessed amnesia to reallocate 11:09 <@malorpower> should I eat this wraith corpse inside the sewage? I don't have a unicorn horn. 11:09 Okay, I think maybe you could forge some mithril spear for ranged? 11:10 even mithril spears are kinda garbagey for ranged, id rather use basic aklys than skilled spear 11:10 What will happen if eat corpse in sewage? 11:10 <@malorpower> my daggers have seemed to do a good job so far? 11:10 <@malorpower> I don't know, it hurt me one time. 11:10 <@malorpower> I'll leave it 🙂 11:10 I think they can do good job in early game, things will be bad in late game they have tough AC. 11:11 there is imo a good argument for staying below level 20 until it is time to kill the wizard 11:11 Yes, if you are not a wizard, I guess 19 level is best. 11:11 The wizards have no problem always to level up to 30 :D 11:11 high level @npcs can just be SUCH a pain 11:12 <@malorpower> ok 11:12 as you are a centaur and you can jump, I think ranged attack suit you very well. 11:13 <@malorpower> ok 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:104104 (1 day, 12:32:59) 11:14 Usually there's a simple strategy just 300s 300s on an altar to farm, to get some armors for AC and then crown. 11:14 This work better if you have luckstoen. 11:15 good luck rebatela 11:15 hey thanks, man! 11:15 Depending if you care about the turn counts, it is fast in realtime I think. 11:15 Go go rebatela. 11:15 managed to keep the titans (and the woolly for that matter) so far... 11:16 Well how can you take them with you? 11:16 but yeah i took your advice and broke a teleport wand so they didn't get in my way of Lucifer lol 11:16 Well I guess maybe you can let them step the portal. 11:18 they should be fine through to michael then i would think 11:18 i have leashes, but yes you can just let them step the portal 11:18 <@malorpower> Because I don't have the luckstone altar camping is going to be really long and hard. I'm going to explore for a while so I can just die and be frustrated 🙂 11:18 i WAS going to leave at the castle and possibly retame 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:54548 (17:49:33) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:104124 (1 day, 12:36:11) 11:23 i made it through with all 3 pets, xdminsy! i know you were worried ;) 11:23 Lol that's great. 11:24 i'm gonna ditch the leashes though... I just feel like it's cruel 11:34 Heh malor the can of grease can protect you from zombie eating brains. 11:34 I'm not sure if you have money. 11:35 I find that's more relaxing to watch evilhack games than I play evilhack myself :P 11:35 oh definitely lol 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:14063 (3:56:31) 11:36 although, it can get stressful watching others on astral etc. 11:36 I found it even more relaxing reading about it :) There was a post about atheist polyselfless liquid diet tourist. I didn't thing I would enjoy reading about nethack games. :) 11:37 Right astral could be even more stressful this version. 11:37 Ah I've read that post too. 11:38 I remember he counted a serial of the turncount to invoke artifacts. 11:38 yes, that's the one. 11:38 card + horn of plenty 11:38 I wonder if that would be easier in evilhack. 11:39 With 2x or 4x monster generation speed, then polymorph more death drops. 11:39 Maybe more fruit juice than vanilla. 11:40 Yeah, there is definitly more fruit juice than vanilla 11:40 Heh cannot be easier, only considering the fruit juice thing. 11:42 <@malorpower> where did i leave that grease? 11:42 I remember in the goblin town shop. 11:42 <@malorpower> oh, right. Thanks xdminsy. 11:43 <@malorpower> I have a lot of money, but until just now I didn't have anything to use it on. 11:43 Heh maybe don't need it if you get unicorn horn, it can protects in late game. 11:43 <@malorpower> "You have a vague sense of guilt." 11:43 <@malorpower> Got this from eating a turtle? 11:44 Dunno about it. 11:47 <@malorpower> so if i just keep teleporting around on the level where the rat king was I should eventually end up in the room i want, right? 11:47 <@malorpower> There are a LOT of creatures in there now fyi. A swarm of "giant mosquitos" spawned in there. 11:47 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:47 If you have teleport control you can just warp right in 11:48 I think yes. 11:48 But you'll need a way of magical opening to open the crystal chest. 11:48 And a stethoscope to open the iron safe.. 11:48 Well maybe there would be a stethoscope in the a chest? 11:48 Not sure about it. 11:49 unlikely, no more chance than ever 11:50 Yes, i tend to not bothering enter there if I don't have all these things plus teleport control. 11:50 Or I think blessed scroll of teleportation 11:51 In evilhack can it evoke a controlled teleportation too? 11:51 nope 11:51 but if you get in you can pick up the crystal chest and safe to teleport out with you for later 11:51 Well, it can. 11:52 Well I'm not sure, maybe because wizard mode? 11:52 the closet chest has a 70% chance of a stethoscope 11:52 I remember I've read a blessed scrolll of tp when my level 15 wizard tp to Dark One and finger of death. 11:52 blessed can let you choose whether to teleport or not i thought. does it let you do it controlled? i clearly never do that :) 11:54 Heh I don't know now, it cannot be tested in wizard mode.. 11:55 pretty sure you only get the y/n prompt 11:56 Okay, then that's not as good as in 3.7. 11:57 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: adjust some settings] 11:59 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 12:00 <@malorpower> First with for Centaur Valk? I have Mjollnir, I am not crowned, I have amulet of MR. 12:00 <@malorpower> Nothing else end-game related. I have reasonable but basic armor, with a -7 AC. 12:00 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01 Not bad. 12:01 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 12:01 I guess if it were me I just go farm and crown, then crowned with about -20 AC. 12:02 <@malorpower> I don't have a luckstone either though as I can't get into the place that has the luckstone. 12:02 And maybe you could get lucky Dragonbane or lucky seconded handed artifact. 12:03 I know, I would farm even if i don't have a luckstone. 12:03 Or mayeb you could try to teleport at random, you an eventually get into there.. 12:03 cant ever go wrong with dragonhide t-shirt of decay or esp. but i like to save wishes and then die without using them 12:03 altar farming will get your luck well up even without a luckstone 12:04 Right, maybe I will try to dip all fountains. 12:04 <@malorpower> "die without using them". A man after my own heart 🙂 12:04 That could grant you an wish without using the magic lamp, worth a try. 12:05 Yes, you could use every magic lamp, if you want you can get another one later or just wish for one if needed. 12:06 The centaurs can jump like wearing jumping boots, the magic lamp could help this too. 12:06 <@malorpower> what does "of decay" mean? sickness resistance? 12:06 drain resistance. 12:06 <@malorpower> oh 12:07 <@malorpower> regardless what my question is xdminsy's answer is "altar farm" 🙂 12:07 <@malorpower> Which is probably correct. 🙂 12:08 Heh, that's the safest answer. 12:08 I think that's the simplest answer, you could dive more if you managed to do. 12:09 <@malorpower> I have a pretty hard big room stopping me in that direction now. 12:10 I dunno but in my view that if you don't go crown, it's like you may not able to have all resistances in 20000 or 30000 turns.. 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:55533 (18:40:52) 12:10 ah every wizards fondest wish 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a mithril axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:15989 (4:24:49) 12:10 That's somewhat very painful, I regard an early coaligned altar every fortunate. 12:11 other popular wishes are: dragonhide cloak of mr (but you have the amulet, so), stone gauntlets of power (less important if not casting spells), stone/mithril helm of speed, mithril amulet of magical breathing (for those *really* paranoid about gelcubes and drowning) 12:11 artiwishes are rare in my experience other than the ring of p'hul for chaotics, since most like to save them for forging 12:11 Yes, usually I'll have a magical breahting every game, but as I play very slow i don't need wish for it. 12:12 you could wish for cleaver to make tempest, which would be very fun but likely not optimal. though you can always get cleaver by...altar farming 12:13 <@malorpower> I didn't have a magic lamp anyway 🙂 12:13 I'm not sure about the valkyrie quest, if it is simple maybe you could go there to find some itmes. 12:13 I don't remember the detail I haven't play valkyrie for a really long time. 12:13 <@malorpower> the big room is in front of the quest. 12:14 Heh i see, i guess you can deal with them with patience if you want. 12:14 Those locust you need to pay attension, they can make you illness too.. 12:15 <@malorpower> humans aren't same-race for centaurs are they? 12:15 no 12:15 I think no. 12:15 I guess you'll get a bugle soon from some soldiers. 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a steel large shield entrusted to her by Odin, on T:17181 (4:29:23) 12:15 That would make the early game much easier. 12:16 <@malorpower> steel is erodeproof, right? 12:16