00:27 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/19efb4ffc495...535b8060c45d 00:27 [EvilHack] k21971 535b806 - Fix: passive AD_MAGM damage when attacking the Oracle (player or another monster). 00:29 that fixes the bug tinklebear noticed recently 00:29 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 00:29 really surprised no one else mentioned it sooner, esp given how often some of you go for the magic 8-ball 00:34 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 00:34 issue with force bolt pushback or intended? 00:34 The spell hits the rothe! 00:34 The rote bumps into the chickatrice. 00:34 The rother turns to stone! 00:34 The statue shatters! 00:34 The chickatrice is destoyed! 00:34 all in one turn. 00:35 seems like a lot to be happening in one turn. 00:35 it all happened instantaneously? 00:35 "standard" force bolt behavior complicated by monsters moving before the bolt continues its path 00:36 same reason nymphs that die to bolts get any mirrors broken 00:36 yeah, also probably the same as death drops being affected when they should not be (been wanting to bring that up) 00:37 the drop occurs after monster death 00:37 (i know this is vanilla behavior) 00:59 <@xdminsy> @malorpower malor I think you don't need to worry about the Goblin King too much, it's almost simply a elven king as vanilla, and it has no armor, only a bone quarterstafff with it, though it may sometimes has powerful attacking wand with it. 01:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:01 <@xdminsy> @malorpower If you want an easy mode, you can copy 500+ msgtype from my rcfile, I have literally alert almost all the important messages I may forget to check. https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/xdminsy.evilrc 01:04 <@xdminsy> While though the Goblin King is simply an elven king, in vanilla you probably won't encounter a elven king before the minetown, but in evilhack you need to kill if you wanna enter minetown, that's the main difference. 01:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:05 Umbire, xdminsy: meow! 01:05 'lo 01:05 <@xdminsy> miao. 01:05 rld: miaow ;3 01:06 Heh rld is the bot transfering the discord messages. 01:06 aw 01:06 ;w; 01:06 thought it was another kitten 01:06 ;w; 01:07 it's just xdminsy lol 01:07 XD 01:11 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 02:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "fireproof marker", on T:56272 (2 days, 10:10:10) 02:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:26 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:57112 (2 days, 11:13:41) 03:55 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 03:56 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 04:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:25 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Bar Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3287 (0:25:45) 04:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a wooden dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:10222 (2:44:36) 04:46 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 04:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10600 (2:56:14) 04:53 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 04:53 -!- Loveaabb_ has joined #evilhack 04:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1679 (0:09:28) 04:54 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 -!- Loveaabb_ is now known as Loveaabb 05:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11401 (3:09:12) 05:05 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 786 points, T:3053, killed by a gas spore's explosion 05:14 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:16 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 2499 points, T:4352, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow 05:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:34321 (1 day, 0:30:25) 06:12 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:36796 (10:54:46) 06:42 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:37923 (11:24:29) 06:47 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:38858 (11:40:56) 06:59 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38879 (11:41:07) 07:02 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:28 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10351 (2:07:44) 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:11759 (2:30:28) 08:11 <@malorpower> I had a monster wand of polymorph me. 08:11 <@malorpower> all of my armor fell off and was then polymorphed into something useless. 08:11 <@malorpower> My long sword was also. 08:11 <@malorpower> I haven't found any good items yet, so I lost things I can replace, but it was an event I won't forget 🙂 08:21 K2: Re: Cleaver discussion. shouldn't fumbling let it hit peacefuls as well. 08:22 I consider Cleaver being operated by the player like a skillful Asian martial arts person. they can direct their mundane weapons very precisely :) 08:23 but if we go down that road, low dexterity or being blind should also make it harder to operate 08:30 Ya that's why MR is even more eager in evilhack. 08:31 And that's another advantage of wizards starting with comr. 08:33 * Loveaabb meows at xdminsy 08:33 morning Loveaabb. 08:34 Glad to see malor start playing evilhack, you make big step :D. 08:35 You could try evilhack a bit too Loveaabb. 08:35 i will 08:35 but didnt feel like to try it yet qwq 08:39 bhaak yeah it prob should 08:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:56 @malorpower are you playing on hdf yet or locally? 09:05 <@malorpower> hdf 09:05 <@malorpower> locally I would have already ascended 🙂 09:06 <@malorpower> question: How do I open the magic chest? 09:08 Apply a magic key. 09:08 You can obtain a magic key from gollum's cave or mine's end or fort ludios. 09:10 Usually the gollum's cave one need you to cross the moat, if you are a wizard, you could ride your ancient pseudodragon to fly over moat if you get a saddle. 09:11 I don't see livelog messages for you @malorpower? 09:11 @malorpower you have to remember to lock the magic chest every time, otherwise the monsters may grab all your items :D. 09:12 <@malorpower> I'm playing Hackem currently :). The livelogs are there 🙂 09:12 <@malorpower> Hackem is easier so I started with that. 09:12 :-( 09:12 <@malorpower> I saw that you have to lock the chest. 09:12 I think yes, after the early game, hackem seems easier. 09:12 <@malorpower> Hackem is considerably easier, although not being able to wish for properties is a potential problem. 09:13 <@malorpower> zero turn swap meant that I could use my lance 100% of the time it was beneficial without ever worrying about it breaking. 09:13 <@malorpower> That's gigantic. 09:13 I remember that in lastest hackem version everytime you wish you'll have penalty that decrease your max luck. 09:13 <@malorpower> after the first wish, yes. 09:13 What is zero turn swap? 09:14 <@malorpower> if you have an alternate weapon, hitting "x" will switch it without using any time. 09:14 I see cool. 09:15 <@malorpower> after playing for a while I think maybe Drow Wizard would be the most beginner friendly combo for Evilhack. 09:15 <@malorpower> I have completely used up 3 non magical lamps so far since not being able to see my foe is often extremely deadly. 09:15 <@malorpower> Drow being able to see nicely all the time is a really good ability. 09:15 Yes, I strongly recommend that. 09:16 Wizards have really lots of advantages. 09:16 You can use forge to forge more or more powerful lance, so maybe one break you could forge another one :) 09:17 <@malorpower> I haven't found any forges yet. 09:18 Ah well I see, dunno about hackem but in evilhack you'll have a guranteed forge in goblin town. 09:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:20 <@malorpower> there is no goblin town in Hackem 😦 09:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 635 points, T:1675, killed by a mithril dart 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:12672 (2:48:05) 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 runed arrows on an altar, on T:12832 (2:49:20) 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:453 (0:03:12) 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Mog, on T:13035 (2:55:34) 09:38 <@malorpower> I'm doing pretty well in Hackem. I was just crowned, so I finally have a weapon better than my opening long sword 🙂 09:43 Great work. 09:44 <@malorpower> Centaur Knight is over powered in Hackem. 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:20514 (8:27:37) 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:13519 (3:11:28) 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a bone short sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:13654 (3:18:06) 10:04 Why's that? 10:04 I think centaur is indeed a great race. 10:04 pretty powerful in evilhack too 10:04 you don't need a mount as centaur to joust xdminsy 10:05 I'm not clear that why zero turn swap make the lance won't break? 10:05 Hit and swap every turn? 10:05 yeah I don't get that either 10:05 I see, then jousting without a steed, sounds so powerful. 10:12 https://i.imgur.com/gZ1qNqG.jpeg 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6008 (0:42:17) 10:20 <@malorpower> zero turn explained -> I only use the lance for the ranged "apply" attack. That never breaks it. Then on the rare instance when a monster gets into range I swap to my longsword and attack it that way. 10:24 ah I see 10:24 all pounding, no jousting 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:14897 (3:44:30) 10:31 -!- Loveaabb1 has joined #evilhack 10:31 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: switching client] 10:31 -!- Loveaabb1 is now known as Loveaabb 10:32 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:56 <@malorpower> oops, Stormbringer just attacked the town watch. I was being pretty careful with that, but a monster appeared that I had to kill and I forgot to switch back 😦 10:57 <@malorpower> will the shopkeepers also try to agro me or just the guards? 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4646 points, T:5800, killed by an owlbear 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:10522 (1:24:11) 11:03 <@malorpower> shop keepers were still friends 🙂 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 12047 points, T:10601, killed by a piranha 11:09 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 93 points, T:366, killed by a jackal 11:13 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 646 points, T:1545, killed by a fire elemental of Camaxtli 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a hell hound, on T:18289 (4:42:01) 12:01 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:20682 (5:31:54) 12:17 headed out real soon, wont be back til sunday night. have a great july 4th holiday for those that celibrate it 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:12024 (3:33:34) 12:19 <@loggers_viii> you too, see ya sunday 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 35610 points, T:12141, killed by a drow raider 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 224 points, T:639, killed by a poisonous corpse 12:30 ssigghh....cancelled into the ground by the traditional caged centaurs of ludios 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful cauchemar, on T:21642 (5:48:49) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:30125 (11:21:22) 12:47 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 12:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2857 (0:32:58) 13:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 912 points, T:2178, diseased by a diseased elf corpse, while helpless 13:07 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4439 (0:29:31) 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6026 points, T:3753, killed by an exploding wand 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5184 (0:28:54) 13:36 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5842 (0:34:44) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:33889 (12:17:50) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26176 (7:00:09) 13:42 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 13:43 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:34817 (12:31:06) 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a spellbook of light given to her by Anhur, on T:34941 (12:33:04) 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:35044 (12:37:39) 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:9523 (0:53:45) 14:07 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 10372 points, T:9959, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:10 <@malorpower> Telepathy via helm of telepathy allows me to target with my lance even in darkness. 14:10 <@malorpower> Is that how it works in Evilhack also? 14:13 Maybe that's how it works in vanilla too? 14:13 I don't think evilhack did anything special there 14:14 yeah normal behavior 14:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 14:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:19 <@malorpower> I had burned all the way through 4 lamps, so it is nice to have an always-on now 🙂 14:20 <@malorpower> I haven’t ever used a lance more than a half dozen times in a game. In this game at least 80% of my damage has been using the lance at distance 🙂 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 40006 points, T:13668, killed by a xorn 14:27 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 284 points, T:1634, killed by a large mimic 14:37 k2 -- when you are blind, with force bolt, you get the "force knocks the dragon back" message even though dragons obv. dont move, and you can tell they don't due to telepathy 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:540 (0:02:34) 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 458 points, T:1727, killed by a wererat 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 57 points, T:226, fell onto a sink 14:46 <@malorpower> I finally found a forge. How do I make my lance better or make a better (lighter) lance? 14:47 <@malorpower> In hackem #forge does NOT work. 14:49 before forging was introduced with high luck i think you could dip metal items to repair them? if i recall 14:52 It's #craft 14:53 so it doesn't conflict with #force 14:55 <@malorpower> ok, thanks umbire. Looks like I need a hammer. I definitely found a hammer at one point. So I'll go get one eventually. 14:55 ah, nice -- the partial match collision is definitely irritating 14:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4222 (0:26:42) 15:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:11 <@malorpower> I finally found a bag of holding. 15:12 <@malorpower> the carrying capacity was so crippling that it is the only reason that I didn't rage quit when all my armor was destroyed by polymorph 🙂 15:12 <@malorpower> I was mad but also, "hey I can carry more stuff agin!" 15:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:23604 (10:41:35) 15:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:23604 (10:41:52) 15:17 <@malorpower> my bag of holding is "very burnt". Can I wield it and use confused enchant weapon to instead make it fireproof? 15:17 <@malorpower> Do I need to worry about that? 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4942 (0:40:04) 15:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:19 @malorpower yes you can and you only need to worry about it if you want to water walk on lava 15:19 or fall into lava 15:20 <@malorpower> I want to do the first, not the second 🙂 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5078 (0:42:08) 15:29 heh 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 4373 points, T:6370, killed by a mountain dwarf, while dragging an iron ball 15:38 <@malorpower> Dirge -> I want to get this, and there are 2 peaceful centaurs, can I tame one, take it back to the altar and kill it and sacrifice it and get Dirge? 15:39 as a centaur knight? yes, if wielding a long sword 15:40 but remember that killing the pet will tweak your alignment record, and you need a good alignment record to get the sword that way 15:43 <@malorpower> oh, that doesn't sound good then. 15:43 <@malorpower> I have only seen 3 centaurs now. the first one that was evil just now. And that's a long way from the altar. And I altar camped for a pretty long time I think. Long enough to get crowned. 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:40883 (14:23:04) 16:09 awww knights gonna be jelly, found a magical lance :-) 16:09 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:10 cursed +0 lance of frost 16:11 <@malorpower> Looks like I'm going to die here, or at least I want to. Yet another polymorph trap destroyed most of my armor again. 16:11 <@malorpower> Still zero wishes or sources of magic resistance all game. 16:12 altar to camp while waiting for mr or poly control? 16:12 dont give up! 16:12 <@malorpower> dead. 16:12 :-( 16:13 <@malorpower> there was a blue dragon right next to me also. So it two hit me and killed me through my poly form. 16:14 <@malorpower> Overall I did NOT like how frequently I lost everything to polymorph. 16:14 <@malorpower> I can see why playing wizard makes sense. 16:14 <@malorpower> I did a lot through the game and never had a sniff at anything with magic resistance. 16:14 <@malorpower> How would altar camping give me magic resistance? 16:14 could get a cloak of mr from your god 16:15 also, you hang around sacrificing and eating, loot comes to you 16:15 without diving down into polytrap levels 16:15 <@malorpower> oh, my gifts were beyond useless. I got windrider and a 2 handed sword that was essentially worse than my long sword. 16:15 windrider? oh, you arent playing evil :-) 16:15 my advice is worse than useless for any other variant 16:15 <@malorpower> Yeah I was in hackem. 16:15 hackem maybe not easy after all ;-) 16:16 <@malorpower> no it definitely is. I just never got magic resistance. 16:16 in evil i dont descend past sokoban without mr or poly control unless ive made my peace with death 16:16 <@malorpower> so you just altar camp for a long time? I never really do that. But I guess that is the way when magic resistance is do or die like this. 16:17 do the gods actually ever give MR cloaks krm26? 16:17 <@malorpower> i mean it didn't kill me too quickly, but I had my stuff destroyed way too often and had to build back up with whatever the next choices were 🙂 16:17 because I suspect they don't 16:17 honestly mobileuser, ive never seen it, but i have gotten every other cloak 16:17 <@malorpower> and the placement of the blue dragon next to the polymorph trap was perfect of course. 16:17 i just assumed my usual luck, but you may be right, mr may be excluded 16:17 <@loggers_viii> I’ve never seen an MR cloak gift 16:19 in my game, an NPC wizard gave me MR (after he nearly killed me) 16:20 and otherwise I try to get genocide, scare monster and enchant armor 16:20 and then revgeno gray dragons 16:21 (drop everything you don't want cancelled first) 16:21 <@malorpower> I never found genocide either. 16:22 then I hope to find a poly wand 16:22 oh, hackem has that annoying poly nerf 16:22 same as dnh I think 16:22 <@malorpower> what's the poly nerf? 16:23 can't poly blank scrolls 16:23 same as dnh I think? 16:23 but in dnh you never feel the need 16:23 <@malorpower> yes, that's true. But I don't know how that matters too much? I had only a few blank scrolls anyway. 16:24 <@malorpower> But I guess that's just less shots at getting genocide to spawn. 16:24 <@malorpower> I also had 9 magic armors so I could have poly piled those also and maybe spiked magic resistance. 16:24 it just makes polypiling more annoying, no use blessing a large stack of blank scrolls 16:25 oh and of course 50% chance of an MR amulet in soko 16:27 time to do the dishes... 16:27 <@malorpower> yeah, I got the reflection instead. I checked how soko works and went for the amulet, but it was reflection. 16:27 <@malorpower> I guess that's the thing maybe, 50% of games are much easier 🙂 16:27 <@malorpower> So I could play again, same style and just hope for magic resistance amulet in sokoban. 16:27 <@malorpower> That probably gives me a strong position. 16:30 <@malorpower> I"m not sure I want to grind through ZERO carry cap for so long again 🙂 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4914 (0:39:20) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2469 points, T:4923, killed by a piranha 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 173 points, T:820, killed by a bear trap 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 142 points, T:396, killed by a small mimic 16:41 <@malorpower> ok, I'm in EVIL now officially 🙂 16:41 <@malorpower> Drow Wizard. 16:41 <@malorpower> Does the Pseudodragon eat? It didn't eat this jackel. 16:42 <@loggers_viii> Yes, pets in evil only eat when they are hungry 16:43 <@malorpower> should I wear "The One Ring"? 16:43 <@malorpower> I assume yes? 16:44 <@loggers_viii> it’s pretty nice but it’s cursed 16:44 invis + wraith detection 16:45 dip it first if you can :-) 16:45 <@loggers_viii> stealth, invis, searching and wraith detection so not super great but decent 16:46 <@malorpower> I'm on Golum's level. How do I get out? 16:46 k2: two gift rustproof +3 daggers from my dumb god do not stack when fully IDd :-( 16:46 stairs lower left corner malorpower 16:46 The one ring is great, as long as you have enough food you could just wear it. 16:46 <@malorpower> I found the portal to the goblin king and then a hole next to the portal and at level one I was in golums lair. I have gained 2 levels killing bats. 16:46 <@malorpower> but I don't see how I live. 16:47 I think cursed ring only need to care about the ring hunger, you could still get into a shop by wearing mummy wrapping i think. 16:47 You just force bolt everyone, then that's it. 16:47 <@malorpower> ok, let's see if my force bolts last then 😉 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 369 points, T:378, killed by a piranha 16:48 <@malorpower> dead. 16:48 <@malorpower> I forgot about piranha. 16:48 Yes the piranha hit every hard. 16:49 But the wizards could deal with them, you just keep away from the water and force bolt them, don't need to check if there's one. 16:49 Just force bolt one direction and see if it hits :D 16:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:51 You could do better next game, usually I remember every time I would check the wiki and to see where the hole may be. 16:51 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:51 Then usually I may enter golllum's cave maybe after minetown. 16:53 <@malorpower> I didn't realize they would be in the water so I was walking around the shallows and couldn't see them 🙂 16:53 Yes, you now know and won't be killed next time :) 16:53 <@malorpower> yes. 16:55 <@malorpower> how do you use shopkeeper services? 16:55 <@malorpower> Or is this shk just not offering any? 16:57 I think no such services? 16:57 I only do price identiy and credit clone. 16:58 And there's very complicated sell price considering you and the shk races. 16:58 Well, buy price maybe. 16:58 I can only price id by the price I sell to them. 17:06 no shopkeeper services in evilhack 17:15 <@malorpower> oh. You can't pay to id things? 17:15 <@malorpower> also I can't find the goblin king entrance. Can it be on the same level as the mines? 17:20 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 4163 points, T:5296, quit 17:21 <@malorpower> I could not find the entrance to the goblin king? I walked every single spot in the dungeon on levels 2 and 3. 17:23 <@malorpower> Also since zombies make you terminally ill how do you handle them? I guess "control-moving" all over is NOT the way 🙂 17:23 <@malorpower> As it does NOT stop until you get attacked rather than when you get sight apparently? 17:23 <@malorpower> So I had to pray to be not-dead 4 times and the fifth killed me. 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 frost brand", on T:27588 (14:37:55) 17:24 <@loggers_viii> as wizard zombies aren’t too threatening, just force bolt 17:25 <@malorpower> but the game wasn't stopped my control-move until they were next to me. So I kept getting hit. 17:25 <@malorpower> Do I have to just one-square move all the time to avoid that? 17:25 <@malorpower> Or is there a setting that says, leave me 3 squares away 🙂 17:25 <@malorpower> And as a drow I should see them several squares away. 17:25 No. 17:25 Just be careful. 17:26 And if there's zombies, they'll produce some sounds I tihnk. 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:27589 (14:40:24) 17:26 <@loggers_viii> Idk, I do running all the time and barely get got by zombies, maybe you were unlucky 17:26 <@loggers_viii> and yeah if you don’t want that to happen you have to just manually move 17:27 <@loggers_viii> zombies are so slow, though. even if you get put next to them by travel you can usually step back 17:27 I think I often control move, hardly be ill by zombies. 17:27 Maybe you're just unlucky this game. 17:30 there will be sounds on the level with the goblin king 17:30 You'll often see "You hear a low moaning" indicating this level has some zombies before you encounter a zombie. 17:31 <@malorpower> no, it wasn't luck. And I knew they were around I just assumed I would notice them from distance instead of right next to them. 17:31 <@malorpower> The same group of zombies got me every time. I may not have mentioned that 🙂 17:31 <@malorpower> I walked levels 2 and 3, at least 3 times and never found the goblin king entrance? 17:31 <@malorpower> So the same group of zombies kept hitting me whenever I would move by. 17:31 <@malorpower> the bad luck was never finding the goblin king. 17:31 here will be sounds on the level with the goblin king :-) 17:31 <@malorpower> But the zombies, that wasn't luck, that was my fault, although I expect the game to come out of speed-mode before I am melee-ing a zombie for the 4th time. 17:32 <@malorpower> I never noticed the sounds of that? I kept checking the backlog. 17:32 <@malorpower> Is it always L2 or L3? 17:32 <@malorpower> L3 was the mines level. 17:32 Right, because they'll revive, usually just force bolt all the zombies, and as long as there still corpses then everytime you come back need to take care. 17:32 then it's level 2 17:33 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Goblin_Town 17:33 MSGTYPE=stop "You hear the sounds of a bustling town nearby." 17:33 MSGTYPE=stop "You hear what sounds like a goblin war party off in the distance." 17:33 <@malorpower> Watch my playback. I touched every square and even did a ton of digging (which nearly kills me as a drow). 17:33 <@malorpower> So that part was really bad luck as it was just nowhere I could find and I impatiently kept getting zombified 🙂 17:33 "Goblin Town is accessible via magic portal, which always appears on dungeon level 2 or 3." 17:33 I have these 2 lines, though it is very annoying when I play drow convict. 17:33 and never on the same level as the mines 17:34 <@malorpower> adding those, thanks xdminsy 17:34 malor did you see me dm you my rcfile before? 17:35 <@malorpower> I'll take in your msgtype now. I forgot about that, thanks 🙂 17:36 <@malorpower> holy sh*t load 🙂 17:37 Oh well I forget to update it, i'd update it now, i complete my toc now. 17:38 <@malorpower> it's long 🙂 17:38 I have about 3900 lines rcfile :P 17:38 <@malorpower> i'm going ilithid this time as far-sight didn't seem to help me at all 😉 17:39 Lol great, they are very great races too. 17:40 <@malorpower> hm, the shopkeeper didn't seem to mind that I destroy the metal bars on his shop. 17:41 Lol interesting, i guess he'll still be mad if you take items and escape there. 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 113 points, T:88, killed by falling down a mine shaft 17:45 <@malorpower> ok, I confirmed that control move will NOT stop you from running into a zombie. 17:47 <@malorpower> no goblin king again? I don't know what is going on. I am out of food and starving now. 17:47 I see, maybe because you play petless, the zombie attack will be less harmful if you wear a helmet. 17:47 I think it should be at level 2? 17:50 Or there may be hidden room left? 17:51 <@malorpower> seriously... 17:51 Heh weird, did you ever see those goblin town message? 17:51 can be at level 2 or 3 17:52 <@malorpower> ok, I finally got the message. L3. 17:52 <@malorpower> that's the first time I've even gotten the message 17:52 Not bad, there're plentiful o-rations if you enter there. 17:52 <@malorpower> this is still really ridic. 17:53 <@malorpower> what the. How did i miss that spot. Ok. 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3483 (0:17:57) 18:00 You can force bolt the iron ball to enter there, trap door may be contained inside those room. 18:01 <@malorpower> ok 18:01 iron bar lol :P 18:03 <@malorpower> where is it? 18:03 <@malorpower> I thought you meant the iron gates 🙂 18:03 <@malorpower> i don't see the ball? 18:03 <@malorpower> or bar. 18:03 <@malorpower> I don't know 🙂 18:03 Yes, i mean iron gates. 18:03 <@malorpower> bah 🙂 18:03 There's only some fixed spot may be trapdoor. 18:03 <@malorpower> should I destroy the whole row of bars? 18:03 Check the wiki page. 18:04 No. 18:04 I don't remember the spot and check wiki every time :D 18:04 <@malorpower> ok, i see. All right hold on 😉 18:05 Yes it's only 5 possible square. 18:05 Right I think it's at left top. 18:06 <@malorpower> ok, found it. 5th out of the 5 🙂 18:06 <@malorpower> ok, on this level I just have to kill everything? 18:06 You can easily kill everything. 18:06 But don't move close to the moat. 18:07 <@malorpower> ok, I see. I read the blurb and looked at the map this time. 18:07 There's a magic key cross moat, maybe you cannot get it now. 18:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:08 <@malorpower> I keep moving next to the water accidentally this time 🙂 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] malor (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4905 (0:30:15) 18:08 force bolt those moat lol. 18:11 <@malorpower> I think I have handled the piranna. 18:11 I think maybe, and there're 2 jellyfishs too. 18:12 You can spend more force bolt just randomly at moat if unsure. 18:14 <@malorpower> I'm not worried about the jellyfish, they can't 2-hit me, so I can just attack when they do. 18:14 <@malorpower> Where is the magic key? 18:14 Right island, you need to cross the real moat :D 18:15 <@malorpower> oh, so i can't get that right now. got it. 18:15 But you can fly when reach level 12. 18:15 <@malorpower> ok. 18:15 But that time maybe you already got the mines end magic key. 18:16 <@malorpower> see the jellyfish isn't hard 🙂 18:16 The warg is really hard. 18:16 <@malorpower> yikes, i'm going to die to these guys. 2 wargs being ridden. 18:16 <@malorpower> I didn't realize they were even bad guys since they had a different look to them. 18:17 What' the fail rate of your case fear? 18:17 <@malorpower> zero fail 18:17