00:12 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 00:16 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a black dragon corpse, on T:54377 (7:51:06) 00:16 Well I forget that. 00:24 Noooo I don't want to play now. 00:25 ;w; 00:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8534 (1:30:25) 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5247 (1:37:44) 00:49 oh, a caveman named Unga 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 544 points, T:1507, killed by the Goblin King 01:04 finally! a wand of death 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6147 (1:55:14) 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6470 (2:00:41) 01:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 15247 points, T:11271, killed by a honey badger 01:18 aww, xdminsy. I've done that so many times... 01:25 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:74320 (1 day, 8:55:30) 01:32 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 01:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3072 (0:20:48) 01:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3385 (0:27:52) 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:39403 (1 day, 9:36:40) 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Regne's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:9024 (2:39:42) 01:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 6236 points, T:4794, killed by a killer bee 02:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:13 oof, burned bag of holding... happened to many of us. you learn to fireproof everything when relying on water walking 02:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1699 points, T:2865, killed by the Goblin King 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7029 (1:39:10) 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a spellbook of dig given to him by Anhur, on T:53640 (15:33:58) 02:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:8353 (2:01:41) 03:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered Clay VI, his faithful large dog, on T:54116 (15:58:37) 03:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered Clay V, his faithful large cat, on T:54116 (15:58:40) 03:07 here is how to fireproof a scroll: 03:07 Step One: blank it 03:07 Step Two: Write a scroll of fire 03:15 heh 03:17 A thought just occurred: I think water walking on lava should be safe if you wield Dichotomy 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:9661 (2:23:11) 03:22 hah. don't try to nurse dance at the same time 03:22 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:55119 (16:19:22) 03:25 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:27 bleh, dog fell down a trapdoor and I can't reach it because "Access denied, by order of the Goblin King" 03:31 what! the dog got access. It must be a double agent from the goblin king. You are better off without it :P 03:33 lol 03:49 "Bwahaha. All you valuable trading post belong to me." 03:50 "I will make my riches by...denying access to everyone but my friends!" 03:52 It'd be more believable if he just wanted to charge a toll or something 03:59 yeah! that might be fun, if there was a strong troll that asks for lots of money to enter. kill the king and the troll becomes unemployed. 03:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4091 (1:32:50) 04:02 alternative backstory: the goblin king prepares for the orcish invasion of minetown by closing it off magically. 04:02 in some games, you are too late and minetown has already been overrun 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:40343 (1 day, 11:01:03) 04:03 Nice! Then in the orc town case, the access to should not be denied. 04:04 ah... a flaw in my story 04:06 or maybe you just got there too late after killing the goblin king 04:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide bracers of drain resistance", on T:75256 (1 day, 11:39:09) 04:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 steel daggers on an altar, on T:5062 (1:54:58) 04:43 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 22936 points, T:14441, killed by a human sergeant, while unconscious from rotten food 04:58 kill the king and the unemployed hostile troll just kills you 04:58 because he isn't getting paid not to anymore 04:59 i like these stories 04:59 good night mobileuser, k3ut0i 04:59 good night! 05:00 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 05:00 gnite 05:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:57603 (17:26:15) 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 244357 points, T:57789, killed by an ettin 05:19 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 05:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76961 (1 day, 12:49:36) 05:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 11 points, T:53, killed by a boulder 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76966 (1 day, 12:50:02) 05:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41194 (1 day, 12:02:35) 05:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:77205 (1 day, 12:54:51) 05:33 go go k3ut0i! 05:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed the illithid high priestess of Moloch, on T:77454 (1 day, 13:07:52) 05:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:77474 (1 day, 13:10:09) 05:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed Lucifer, on T:77561 (1 day, 13:17:44) 05:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2581 (0:29:34) 05:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) entered Purgatory, on T:77579 (1 day, 13:19:59) 05:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2849 (0:35:49) 06:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:78045 (1 day, 13:32:12) 06:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:78342 (1 day, 13:35:05) 06:09 Lost my free action to a shocking sphere :( don't have a spare or extra wishes! I'll try polypiling in the plane of earth. Hope I'll make it there 06:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:78424 (1 day, 13:40:33) 06:13 got it in 1 try :) nice 06:13 a spare too. But lost the conduct :\ 06:17 phew! 06:18 yeah, that's a drawback of the GoPur 06:19 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 06:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:78625 (1 day, 13:51:13) 06:24 damn them! lost both rings. Lucky I have spares. :| 06:27 RIP mobileuser the Slayer :-P 06:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:78688 (1 day, 13:56:53) 06:29 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:78689 (1 day, 13:57:01) 06:29 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:30 noooooooo 06:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Trt Fem Law), 3074263 points, T:78720, killed by Famine (with the Amulet), while fainted from lack of food 06:30 damn 06:32 that's always the danger with Famine :-( 06:32 got too bogged down. I was trying to be spare teleport wands. I should've just kept moving 06:32 thats tough k3ut0i 06:32 and no more wand of death charges to kill Famine I guess 06:33 yeah, it exploded when I tried to re-charge. Found only 1 wand in the game 06:33 yes, it can only be recharged once 06:33 Damn! I forgot about that :( 06:34 I knew I was forgetting something before stepping into astral. I should have eaten until satisfied at the very least. 06:37 yeah... :-( 06:37 This was the most kitted-out I've been in a while. purity+ashmar+dichotomy+annhilation. Hmm... Well I think I'll play drow for while. 06:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3888 (0:25:28) 06:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3975 (0:26:47) 06:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6556 (2:34:11) 06:58 do goggles serve any purpose? 06:58 I may need to go swimming to get the magic key... 06:58 you can see farther 06:59 but it should be lit, I think... I'm not sure 07:00 thx, I'll try once I have stashed the stuff that can rust... 07:03 D - an uncursed very rusty +2 dwarvish chain mail (being worn) :-( 07:04 ok that was a bad idea 07:04 unfortunately the one ring is also on the other side 07:10 I could try dipping in a forge to repair it, but I would need to have luck first 07:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:26 :( 07:28 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: switching client] 07:29 -!- Loveaabb has joined #evilhack 08:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3064 (1:21:20) 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3248 (1:23:40) 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2314 (0:19:44) 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25485 (12:27:53) 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4467 (0:44:46) 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25936 (12:51:08) 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:8237 (1:21:17) 09:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:31 <@malorpower> Is there a setting in "evilhack" that makes it ASK ME if I want to remove my armor if I am only wearing ONE PIECE? 09:31 <@malorpower> This is "paranoid_remove" in dnethack, but that does NOT work in "Evil". 09:32 it works for me 09:32 <@malorpower> maybe I mispelled it. 09:32 lemme check 09:33 R + always pick from inventory for Remove and Takeoff 09:33 I always set it manually at the start of the game 09:35 f - paranoid_confirmation [quit pray Remove swim] 09:36 <@malorpower> does NOT work for me via 09:36 <@malorpower> OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation 09:36 <@malorpower> Taking off my item still just takes it off if I have one. 09:37 I don't know how to translate that to evilrc speak 09:37 <@malorpower> oh, wait. One sec. 09:39 OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation and then the things you want confirmation of (don't know the syntax) 09:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 15801 points, T:8867, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 09:42 <@malorpower> swim,pray 09:42 <@malorpower> worked in the config, but "pray" wasn't there "in game". 09:42 <@malorpower> "remove" didn't work for it. 09:42 <@malorpower> "quit" didn't either, although seems to be there. 09:42 <@malorpower> The "in game" option menu had lots of options AND DOES WORK. 09:42 <@malorpower> so that will just be part of my startup routine. I have that in a couple other variants. 09:44 that's a good workaround, but where are the evilrc gurus :-) 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] asmod (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered Stingy, his faithful pseudodragon, on T:53 (0:03:03) 09:45 ok, forge dipping... 09:46 first 2 dips nothing 09:46 <@malorpower> I tried 09:46 <@malorpower> OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation 09:46 <@malorpower> without any additional parameters and that didn't work fyi. 09:48 yeah that will need specific stuff after that 09:48 third dip, 1 layer of rust removed! 09:49 haha, +2 dwarvish chain mail repaired! 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 10399 points, T:11617, quit 09:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:6499 (3:03:14) 09:59 <@malorpower> Centaur knight -> should I use the lance or long sword primarily? 09:59 <@malorpower> with the lance i can sometimes attack from distance which is very good, but it looks like end game is always "dirge" for the most part. 10:00 centaur can jump(not just as a knight) at lvl 5. and they are faster. You can get a lot done with just pounding. 10:01 <@malorpower> are you saying use the lance? Which is my gut feeling to be safer. 10:01 as a knight I use lance throught the end game 10:01 Either/or works really, you can Dirge it or double down on lances (ideally forged with light material and oprops) 10:01 <@malorpower> forges seem extremely vital 🙂 10:02 <@malorpower> ok, cool. 10:03 a mithril lance weighs about 70 compared to the regular 180 and gives a +2 damage bonus. 10:03 <@malorpower> cool. 10:04 but you got to have the luckstone first before you can get serious with the lance 10:04 otherwise it will quickly break 10:04 yeah, until luckstone keep to pounding 10:05 but once you can joust at skilled... 10:05 Idk how 'quickly' given the odds are a bit long to begin with but def. play it safe with luck 10:13 <@malorpower> ok. 10:14 Umbire: meow~ 10:15 hi 10:15 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #evilhack 10:17 <@malorpower> can you name "grimtooth" and "sting"? 10:17 <@malorpower> Should you? 10:17 not grimtooth 10:17 you can name sting and orcrist 10:17 that has a chance to summon elves 10:17 Hostile ones specifically 10:17 Even if you're elven yourself 10:17 <@malorpower> ok, so don't do it? 10:18 so only do that if you can handle them 10:18 ^ 10:18 then it's recommended 10:18 e.g. you'd like armor to polypile, bodies to sacrifice, same-race corpses for dirge 10:18 whatever 10:18 <@malorpower> i see. 10:19 ah yes, for centaur a same race sac can be a bit of a challenge 10:19 but you will be able to lift a corpse 10:19 <@malorpower> because there aren't a lot of centaurs? 10:19 No there'll be plenty 10:19 yeah 10:19 just they're, y'know, fucking Heavy 10:20 yup 10:20 <@malorpower> so i can't lift myself? So I need to kill them on the altar? That? 10:20 centaur PCs have higher carry cap 10:20 no, as centaur you can lift them 10:20 <@malorpower> ok 10:20 so it's doable but very difficult 10:20 it's good procedure to get them as close to the altar as you can 10:20 in general 10:21 <@malorpower> ok 10:21 -!- Loveaabb_ has joined #evilhack 10:22 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22 -!- Loveaabb_ is now known as Loveaabb 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] asmod (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:971 (0:17:38) 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] asmod (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1910 points, T:1260, quit 10:31 after all that business with the forge, my dwarvish chain mail is very rusty AGAIN after an encounter with a rust monster 10:31 I hope the dilapidated armory will have some good stuff... 10:33 No cloak to cover it with? 10:35 I had just taken off my cloak to deal with a brown pudding :-P 10:36 I had to run away when black puddings showed up next, those things bite hard... 10:37 F 10:41 heh, at the moment it's more comedy capers than serious danger 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] asmod (Val Cen Fem Neu), 460 points, T:719, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Val Gia Fem Law) became permanently transformed into a giant zombie, on T:34731 (8:05:32) 11:18 what! 11:19 !lastgame mightyquinn 11:19 k3ut0i: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1716300329.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mightyquinn/evilhack/dumplog/1668904015.evil.html 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1435 (0:13:42) 11:23 The game hasn't ended yet 11:24 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Changes_to_existing_monsters 11:26 OH! that is funny as hell 11:27 My best game thus far had me die to Kas and rise as a spectre 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had a pair of platinum gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Venus, on T:7341 (0:47:15) 11:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±7] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9b7c6ba2e774...3b8bc00f48c3 11:31 [EvilHack] k21971 f126cf4 - Tweak death reason when drinking from a forge. 11:31 [EvilHack] k21971 8e0794a - Add dragonhide material to is_flimsy() 11:31 [EvilHack] k21971 3b8bc00 - Fix: peaceful/tame monsters poly'd into a cross-aligned dragon (player is a knight) would stay tame. 11:34 These'll be live soon I take it? 11:53 soonish 11:53 i'm working on more 11:53 wanna finish up fixing all known bugs and making tweaks to things by the end of july 11:54 august, get busy on druid / new version 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1863 (0:28:19) 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 13061 points, T:11222, killed by a leocrotta, while reading a book 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4446 (1:00:35) 12:31 -!- Loveaabb_ has joined #evilhack 12:33 -!- Loveaabb_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:34 -!- Loveaabb_ has joined #evilhack 12:34 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:35 -!- Loveaabb_ is now known as Loveaabb 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4108 (1:08:30) 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4527 (1:15:44) 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5101 (1:29:33) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5835 (1:38:07) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:31769 (7:59:28) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31770 (7:59:29) 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Unguarded1765 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9569 (2:06:32) 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:32241 (8:04:58) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 12994 points, T:6584, killed by Mr. Lonzac; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:96202 (1 day, 7:33:38) 13:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Bar Dra Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:9227 (4:20:11) 13:34 -!- Loveaabb has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Inf Dro Fem Una), 3354 points, T:2840, killed by a ball of cold, while dressing up 14:02 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:1701 (0:08:18) 14:06 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Client Quit] 14:14 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3b8bc00f48c3...ef4bf2efbc1c 14:14 [EvilHack] k21971 624e7d2 - Fix: noncorporeal monsters were affected by knockback. 14:14 [EvilHack] k21971 30dd5b6 - Fix: monster could go berserk if temporarily sleeping or paralyzed. 14:14 [EvilHack] k21971 ef4bf2e - Fix: consume_tin() bypassed is_edible() 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4903 (0:32:59) 14:32 gotta go soon, will work on more fixes when i get back 14:32 will update servers sometime tonight i imagine 14:32 bIG iindependence day plans, k2? 14:32 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:32 I used to liike to light fireworks 14:33 kaBOOM ... mortars and all that 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5215 (0:37:59) 14:34 going to maine 14:34 k2, make sure to pet lots of cats 14:35 leaving wednesday, back on sunday. so i'll be outta the loop for a few days 14:35 cbus why cats? 14:35 (thinking of the breed maine coon) D:) 14:35 ah 14:35 largest domestic cat breed 14:36 found this as a random example of size https://mainecoon.org/most-famous-maine-coon-cat/ 14:36 beautiful cats :) 14:37 later K2 14:37 enjoy the trip! 14:38 not leaving until wednesday lol 14:38 and thanks :P 14:38 just in a few min i gotta go get mini-me 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a steel helmet entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:6458 (0:46:08) 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:96830 (1 day, 8:07:27) 14:49 found a spider silk cloak of displacement, pretty nice 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:96863 (1 day, 8:08:26) 14:51 fuck that... more like the oracle just killed my pet TITAN i've been nursing for half the game 14:51 never let a pet look at the oracle 14:55 it's all good... not sure how i killed it though lol 14:55 i'm gonna go to izchaks because i only have 6 candles... Maybe leave the titans behind? 14:57 mobileuser: ooo spider silk!? neat 14:57 found a candle in the dungeon so i guess ic an just avoid the izchak sich 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "fireproof marker", on T:42783 (1 day, 14:55:27) 15:15 Idefix dies from its illness 15:15 oh well 15:28 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:16065 (1:56:38) 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1876 (0:13:31) 16:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Unga (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 699 points, T:2555, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:98973 (1 day, 9:11:36) 16:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:27 oof I see it's almost "rip tin opener" time 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:99195 (1 day, 9:20:30) 16:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2441 (0:41:30) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 36610 points, T:17272, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:43507 (1 day, 16:32:59) 17:01 mobileuser heh 17:01 :-) 17:02 watching tinklebear trying to become a succubus with an alhoon lurking... 17:04 phew, alhoon down 17:07 \o/ 17:12 <@malorpower> Question - everyone recommended "Valk", but no one recommended "Barbarian". 17:13 <@malorpower> Is there a reason that Barbarian Centaur isn't one of the easier role-race options? 17:14 It's among them for sure but people don't like Cleaver so 17:14 /hj 17:15 <@malorpower> oh, I see. So the first sac gift of (presumably) mjolnir is better than cleaver essentially? 17:15 <@malorpower> Umbire your information is always much appreciated and always excellent! So please always high jack (assuming that's what hj was). 17:16 meant "half joking" 17:16 <@malorpower> ok, the rest of my statement still stands 🙂 17:16 but yeah valk is the traditional beginner role rec so I guess it's just habit 17:16 <@malorpower> ok 17:17 barbs DO have that killer quest item but alignment abuse is a real thing that you have to worry about in Evil and Cleaver genuinely requires a lot of care to not hit bystanders with so that's A part of it 17:17 (even if it's not necessarily a big one) 17:18 hostile mines is also a thing and noble/royal monsters are a lot to deal with when hostile 17:18 <@malorpower> Ah the ring of P'hul. Ok, cool. 17:18 keep in mind I'm just spitballing 17:18 Cleaver should just not hit peacefuls like in the original FIQHack implementation 17:18 <@malorpower> like Eminem honestly. 17:19 I need to get back to playing this variant regularly so I can take in all the changes properly 17:19 Umbire: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Cleaver#EvilHack 17:19 "In EvilHack, Cleaver will not hit peaceful monsters in its arc unless cursed. " 17:20 oh right, cool 17:20 it's not intelligent and curse-resistant though 17:20 so probably keeps its stock down a fair bit 17:20 <@malorpower> ok, so cleaver isn't terrible any more. So barbarian is possibly/probably another viable beginner friendly option? 17:20 it's also two-handed so getting it cursed is bad 17:20 <@malorpower> oh, and cursing is probably worse/more often in evil. 17:20 <@malorpower> kk. 17:20 always has been, and cleaver's always good if you're not a coward :B 17:21 /hj 17:21 but yeah barb is An Option worth considering 17:21 cursing isnt worse or more often vs vanilla nethack 17:22 <@malorpower> oh, ok, in that case it probably isn't a big deal since I literally never think about it in vanilla other than in the end-game stuff. 17:22 vanilla cleaver is useless and when that change was taken from fiqhack it shouldn't have been made to hit peacefuls/pets 17:22 <@malorpower> and by then I assume i have access to stormbringer or other artifacts via crowning or more sacrifices. 17:23 s/useless/almost &/ 17:23 <@malorpower> stormbringer not good? Is that what that meant? 17:24 no 17:24 he's still talking about cleaver 17:24 I was referring to vanilla cleaver but I don't like vanilla stormbringer either 17:24 <@malorpower> ok, I see the text you wanted to replace. Ok. 17:24 did evilhack Cleaver change??? 17:25 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/20b6cd504ff1428cf927ff377f190c1d7e7697a9 17:25 almost a year ago to the day 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5130 points, T:5589, killed by a touch of death 17:25 completely missed that! 17:26 hmmm maybe I should go back to take Cleaver out of the dustbin.... 17:27 @malorpower barbarain centaur is pretty good 17:27 * barbarian 17:28 stormbringer is great btw 17:28 but mostly useless in gehennom 17:29 <@malorpower> ok, cool. And chaotic barbs get that for crowning right? 17:29 <@malorpower> Is crowning realatively doable during the game in evilhack? 17:29 there are many better options in the late game 17:29 odds of crowning are same vs vanilla 17:29 crowning early is very doable 17:30 and more desireable vs vanilla too 17:31 idk about useless but the amount of drain resistant hostiles heavily caps its worth there, yeah 17:31 at least in vanilla I'd rather not get drained to hell potentially or w/e 17:31 strongbringer vs rodney 17:31 with evil gehennom DPS matters a ton more 17:31 in any variant 17:33 <@malorpower> It looks like you can dual wield at least some artifacts. What are the rules on that? 17:33 can't combine lawful/chaotic 17:33 other combinations are fine 17:33 <@malorpower> oh, interesting. 17:34 <@malorpower> that's a pretty nice way of doing it. 17:34 <@malorpower> I may copy some portion of that logic for slashdnh. 17:34 I should also get back to building something resembling a variant outline again 17:34 and the weapon wielded in the second hand still retains its special bonusses 17:34 <@malorpower> right now in slashdnh you can dual wield any 2 artifacts that you can otherwise wield. 17:34 <@malorpower> And some races can wield MORE THAN 2 artifacts at a time 🙂 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Cen Fem Cha), 1910 points, T:1474, quit 17:43 I see that Loggers ascended with Dichotomy + Stormbringer as barb centaur 17:43 pretty good combination 17:45 mobileuser I cant recreate making kathryn the enchantress angry with a tooled horn 17:45 even at exp level 30 17:45 uh refresh my memory?? 17:45 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L17 17:46 oh that was the infidel K2 17:46 ah 17:46 she's already hostile 17:46 when she starts tapping her feet for 100 turns 17:46 yeah 17:46 but she doesn't wait if you blow the horn 17:46 yeah when you use a horn like that, it will set mfrozen to 0 17:47 acting as intended 17:47 yeah thought so 17:47 ok. mystery solved 17:47 I just wanted to scare the monsters she summoned earlier :-) 17:47 heh 17:48 yeah i'm sitting here blowing my horn repeated, and she just waves at me 17:49 *repeatedly 18:01 heheh 18:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:44 -!- sludge_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- sludge_ has joined #evilhack 18:46 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:19 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 19:24 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical amulet called Square !R,MR,MB,VP, on an altar, on T:13806 (4:06:19) 19:28 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ef4bf2efbc1c...5ff8c1458da0 19:36 [EvilHack] k21971 5ff8c14 - Forcefighting a door or any type of tree while burning hands spell is active can burn them down. 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Unga's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:1706 (0:52:08) 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4436 (1:08:29) 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:4506 (1:09:31) 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4754 (1:11:23) 20:21 K2, does that use up the burning hands charge or 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5948 (1:46:36) 20:53 I'm not sure, can one prepare like 5000 times of burning hands and shocking grasp before getting the amulet? 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of copper gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6485 (1:55:50) 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33299 (8:59:50) 21:26