00:37 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3186 (3:27:44) 00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:41319 (19:16:09) 01:03 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:9401 (2:56:01) 01:17 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9894 (3:09:54) 01:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1699 points, T:4110, killed by a goblin, while sleeping 01:18 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:19 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:20 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Lolth, on T:10023 (3:13:28) 01:24 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:43786 (20:01:12) 02:15 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 28464 points, T:10924, killed by the Oracle 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:32 I just realised something: a knight might obtain, somehow, a cross aligned pet dragon 02:32 ^ that sounds like it should not be possible? 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10230 (4:36:56) 02:50 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:57 will a knight's pet polymorphed into a cross aligned dragon become untame? 03:09 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:13 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:47755 (21:46:01) 03:22 tinklebear had a chaotic red dragon pet I believe, I don't know how he acquired it 03:22 but imo this should not be possible 03:25 can the knight player polymorph into something else and then tames it? draugr can tame pets by throwing food by polymorphing into something else 03:26 they still remain tame after returning to draugr form 03:30 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 2961 points, T:3238, killed by the Goblin King 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:96667 (2 days, 5:26:22) 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:96668 (2 days, 5:26:44) 03:46 k3ut0i it's role based, all cross-aligned dragons should hate dragons 03:47 * should hate knights 03:59 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3091 (2:18:34) 04:06 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12671 (5:56:56) 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire noble, on T:13162 (6:10:20) 04:35 my red and blue tame dragons started out as regular domestic animals, mobileuser 04:35 then polytraps happened, I believe 04:35 some of them several times 04:36 right, but they should have turned hostile the moment they polymorphed 04:36 as if you were wearing dragonbane 04:36 I have never seen that happen. 04:36 that's what happened with dragonbane 04:36 imo that's a bug... 04:37 ^ K2 04:39 "that's what happened WITH DRAGONBANE" 04:39 seems like there's some room for fine distinctions 04:39 but I can definitely understand the contrary point of view 04:42 It used to be that any dragon would be hostile to knights, that was later changed to only cross-aligned ones 04:42 yes, I remember 04:42 should every knight "feel guilty" every time a peaceful hits a polytrap and turns into a cross-aligned dragon? 04:43 not much you can do about your role! I guess that one should be an exception. 04:44 after polymorph there should be atleast some turns for peace to hate. enough to re-equip things. 04:45 dragonbane you mean? 04:45 some grumbling time 04:45 and other haters... sting 04:45 etc.. 04:45 you could argue it's your own choice to wear or wield a bane 04:45 except, .... they're banes. they're not microaggressions 04:45 BANES 04:45 \o/ 04:45 CARL 04:46 like showing up at a wedding in an SS officer's uniform 04:46 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:47 ...you're not going to just "make people a little uncomfy" 04:47 I thought this was a costume themed wedding... 04:48 :D 04:48 I just lucked onto a +5 jumping boots in the shop. :) 04:49 \o/ 04:59 that hostile revived red dragon that ate me, it was never going to revive tame, and my attempts to retame it were of course doomed to failure 04:59 but of course, I did not realise that at the time 05:00 had I been more careful about reviving it (so as not to get immediately mauled to death during the re-taming attempt)... 05:01 So, anything need urgent wikification? I'm in for the nightshift. 05:01 ...all I would have accomplished is wasting more taming scrolls, and more ink on moar taming scrolls 05:02 the quick death was a merciful punishment for being very dumb 05:02 Hi Umbire, maybe you could review the changes I made to the evilhack page? 05:03 Umbire: scimitar merging to saber is just evilhack thing right? I din't see it on the evilhack page. There is a mention of it on scimitar page but is a bit ambiguous. 05:03 Already was, but had to force myself to sleep. 05:03 Ah, thanks! 05:04 Yeah, no mention of it yet 05:04 k3ut0i, it's also something nethack brass did 05:04 Hack'EM as well 05:05 lol "Feel free to take any items in that chest that might aid you." 05:05 It's my own magic chest Neferet 05:06 but I will use that throne :-) 05:06 isn't there an old-school chest there too with, like an orange and a potion of acid or something? 05:06 k3ut0i, in fact you edited that in yourself 05:06 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2600 (1:17:47) 05:06 tinklebear, you're thinking of Kathryn's. 05:07 I'm remembering *some* quest branch, but probably not the Wizard quest 05:07 The acid and fruits in Kathryn's are for getting to the pegasus and taming it 05:08 those were just stand-ins for "a couple of nearly useless junk items" 05:08 Quest home chests don't have specific items generally 05:08 (that I'm aware of anyway) 05:08 anyway k3ut0i, you tweaked the Arc stuff to reflect the scimitar/saber merge but never added in info about the merge itself 05:09 that I can tell just yet 05:09 I didn't know where to aadd it. 05:09 There is not section for changed skills... 05:09 no* section 05:10 Could've made one 05:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Skills 05:10 Skill stuff's right there 05:11 Yeah, that's a good place to put it. 05:11 * tinklebear is curious why there is a magic chest in rodney's lair 05:12 easier to get last minute inventory changes before making the run 05:12 in game story: May be rodney is trying to crack it... 05:12 hoping you forgot to lock it :-) 05:12 it is certainly convenient. but yeah, I'm curious what the in-game story could possibly be 05:13 haha, mobileuser 05:13 and k3ut0i 05:13 trying to crack it is a good one! 05:18 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2696 (1:29:56) 05:22 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1500 (0:30:16) 05:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2120 (0:35:52) 05:37 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 05:38 -!- k3ut0i_ has joined #evilhack 05:40 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41 -!- k3ut0i_ is now known as k3ut0i 06:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:11 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4667 (2:11:36) 06:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:15 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1745 (0:10:07) 06:21 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 06:23 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3152 (0:18:20) 06:31 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3937 (0:25:57) 06:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:34 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:35 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:10 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:7515 (3:11:10) 07:16 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:29 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Poseidon, on T:8144 (3:29:25) 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a staff of escape entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:33618 (7:19:03) 07:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:41 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:46 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:8978 (3:45:23) 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] klepto (Val Hum Fem Neu), 39805 points, T:13967, choked on an elven royal corpse 08:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a greased dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:37045 (7:48:08) 08:07 greased! very nice 08:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 7918 points, T:6022, killed by an orcish arrow of fire, while sleeping off a magical draught 08:17 which means it will slip when you throw it ;-) 08:19 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:20 yup, nothing like an unstackable greased dagger as a followup to magicbane 08:21 literally any possible garment would have been 10x better 08:30 dark one not showing up with "cooperative" telepathy, I guess because he is meditating 08:31 i.e. hasn't picked up the QA yet 08:31 it always starts on the nemesis's square 08:43 well, he is an illithid like me 08:43 would normally show up regardless of QA 08:44 ...that's right actually 08:44 weird 08:53 I'm adding 'Illithid psionic wave is hunger free and isn't affected by metal armor' to wiki. This is correct, yes? 08:58 Sounds correct, make sure it's not duped 09:09 It should be hunger free but I'm not sure if that is handled in the source code? 09:09 Also, I think most metallic helmets block it? 09:10 unless they're helms of telepathy 09:10 I think it is. I've been spamming it, but I didn't notice more hunger 09:10 which k3ut0i accounted for 09:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 445 points, T:1747, killed by a gas cloud, while praying 09:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 193 points, T:998, killed by an acidic corpse 09:21 Umbire Dark One showed up on cooperative telepathy as soon as I quaffed cursed invis, so that tracks 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:22298 (13:44:07) 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22300 (13:44:31) 09:23 right, so he's telepathic but not immediately aware of you 09:23 hmm 09:26 Knife was folded into dagger skill, right? 09:28 right 09:28 yes 09:29 Will add once I get some food 09:32 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:12052 (5:20:37) 09:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:22663 (13:58:22) 09:39 no conduct violations yet 09:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1201 (0:19:05) 10:01 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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NOW i'm done for the year 11:42 :( 11:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:6092 (4:52:46) 12:02 undead killed the aligned priest in middle level of the priest quest. Haven't seen that before. 12:10 Not as uncommon as might be expected honestly 12:10 it's a massive graveyard and some hostile monsters can be in the temple in the center 12:10 so if a door opens only one of them has to get lucky 12:15 yeah, somehow almost all the doors are smashed in. Do giant zombies smash down doors? 12:16 Ofc 12:21 demons in graveyards fighting with the undead, is this by design? 12:24 Yes 12:25 Demons are zombie targets just like every other living monster 12:39 -!- Grasshopper has joined #evilhack 12:43 Is Gollum's magic key on the far island? The one I can't get to without flying/lev/water walking/swimming? 12:43 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:45 yes 12:46 loggers also got by creating a pathway with scrolls of earth :) 2 may not be enough. 12:50 thanks 12:54 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "cursed magic marker", on T:17789 (8:42:28) 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 135575 points, T:30321, drowned in a pool of water, while moving through the air 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 13352 points, T:19002, killed by a magic missile 13:05 !lastgame dbanethacker 13:05 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1718974361.evil.html 13:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:12 Demons are not living. They are also not undead. 13:12 See: the touch of death fail message ("You seem no deader than before.") 13:15 oof krm26 :-( 13:15 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:16 Hi all - I'm on level 1 and can't find a door or passage to get on with the game.  This seems to happen to me every 100 games or so.  Any ideas besides quitting and trying again? 13:16 K2 did you see the knight/dragon discussion? 13:17 My Dex is only a starting value of 8, so perhaps that's interfering.  But I've searched every spot where a door or passage could be and not been able to find any way to move on.  Is there some way to check if something's wrong? 13:18 and by search, i mean that I've done about 20 s (search) on every wall and at the end of the 1 long corridor. 13:19 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:18616 (9:07:12) 13:19 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18617 (9:07:27) 13:19 dbanethacker always frustrating when that happens, but you will have to keep searching. maybe one the squares of the long corridor has? 13:20 Ok I'll check every square of the long corridor. 13:20 and that fails, all the other walls again 13:20 * if 13:26 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Ith Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:18997 (9:14:35) 13:27 25s is usually the "safer" bet 13:28 Found it.  there is a diagonal square I had used to turn a corner.  I went on every square and there was another connecting corridor that I missed.  You can see if it you &watch& my game.  Go figure. 13:30 Thanks all for the suggestions!! 13:36 :-) 13:43 I feel completely firm 13:44 i still can't wait to geno these black dragons 13:50 mobileuser no i didnt 13:52 when a peaceful monster turns into a cross-aligned dragon, it should become hostile to a knight 13:52 or a pet 13:53 ah 13:53 and without alignment penalty probably, not much you can do about being a knight 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4274 (0:46:03) 13:58 welp 13:58 this is unplayable. delete all games! 13:58 lol 13:58 SHAME 13:59 but I think it tripped up tinklebear a bit 14:10 just got word, my wife just published her first paper 14:10 'Dear Ms. Simpson: On behalf of Editor-in-Chief Dr Steve George, Editor-in-Chief Emeritus Alan Jette, and Editorial Board Member Dr. Chiao-nan Chen, congratulations! Your manuscript, "Facial Swelling and Neuritis After Internal Carotid Endarterectomy in an 81-Year-old Woman With Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus: A Case Report," has been accepted by *PTJ: Physical Therapy & Rehabilitation Journal* 14:10 (Phys Ther). Your author manuscript is being prepared for advance publication ahead of issue.' 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5871 (1:01:39) 14:12 Congratulations! 14:12 \o/ 14:13 wow! congrats. 14:19 gg 14:21 wooo 14:21 weee 14:23 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:23 the back n forth was a lil weird. turns in 1st revision, gets kicked back 'please remove these parts'. they're important, but ok - she sends it back (2nd revision), gets kicked back 'please add ' she tactfully replies back with 'those are the bits you asked me to remove initially, but sure ok' and sends back 3rd revision 14:23 hah 14:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1309 (0:06:24) 14:39 a c a d e m i a 14:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4958 points, T:3847, diseased by an orc zombie, while praying 14:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 23 points, T:64, killed by a fox 14:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:1282 (0:04:47) 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Regne (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 2139 points, T:2810, zombified by an elf zombie, while frozen by a potion 15:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3249 (0:14:54) 15:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a leather cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:3651 (0:17:56) 15:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5380 points, T:3770, diseased by an orc zombie 15:11 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 18:08 ok, found tinklebear bones! 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) murdered blood killer, her faithful cauchemar, on T:3178 (0:22:46) 18:09 traveling very light, only carrying longsword, lance, towel, couple other things but biggie is... 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha), 1289 points, T:3190, quit 18:09 dragonhide CoMR! 18:09 \o/ 18:09 was in part of Oracle level I'd missed before, complete surprise 18:10 bones or just random? 18:10 tamed tinklebear's steed too 18:11 ah bones 18:11 "Vita Fidelia" 18:11 weird they were carrying so little, but makes sense as lance weighs a shit-ton 18:12 and no armor...? 18:12 except the dragonhide CoMR 18:12 more space for loot I guess 18:13 replacing my old CoMR with the dragonhide immediately adds (detracts) 6 AC 18:14 <@xdminsy> Wow that's awesome. 18:14 yeah... and I just finished making a batch of holy water to uncurse things 18:14 <@xdminsy> dragonhide comr is the very sweety armor. 18:15 and, I also just ID'd a runed dagger of shock, which I've enchanted with blessed ?oEW (not sure how many plusses yet) 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] msbqqq (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:9576 (2:24:39) 18:15 that is a great weapon, "does 1d5 + 3 of extra shock damage" 18:16 <@xdminsy> Lol I think force bolt could do more damage. 18:17 <@xdminsy> I think it may destroy potions but not mirrors? 18:17 <@xdminsy> Then that would be good to throw at nymphs. 18:18 shock doesn't hurt potions/scrolls AFAIK, but not sure about wands 18:18 and yeah, I've shattered heaps of potions this game 18:19 when killing weaker monsters just hitting them makes more sense 18:20 shock damage affects wands and rings 18:20 just like any other source of shock 18:21 monsters are less likely to be even carrying rings, and I don't mind losing a wand of striking or two 18:21 <@xdminsy> Oh i don't know that. 18:22 <@xdminsy> When I play wizard seems I don't mind losing potions. 18:22 shattering potions of healing etc makes me sad - if nothing else I can quaff them for more HP 18:22 <@xdminsy> I like the new force bolt very much. 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a death ray), on T:21083 (12:51:57) 18:24 if losing some potions is the price of success, I'm happy to pay 18:25 heh sad + happy = OK 18:25 <@xdminsy> I think yes, the new force bolt seems able to take down every monsters before castle even arch-lich. 18:26 <@xdminsy> The gray dragon will boing though, but one can force bolt the silver dragon. 18:26 <@xdminsy> Well any dragons other than gray. 18:27 1 point cost means you can spam it all say 18:27 all *day 18:29 <@xdminsy> Yes and I think most monsters in evilhack is not dangerous if they cannot get close to you. 18:30 <@xdminsy> The gelcubes, water elementals and sea dragons are so easy for wizards. 18:31 <@xdminsy> Oh right and the force bolt will even knock the monsters back.. 18:31 if they are not too large 18:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Magus (Inf Ith Mal Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:7820 (1:58:00) 18:31 or a few other things 18:32 I drowned something like that recently 18:32 knocked an orc into a river in the mines 18:33 <@xdminsy> Oh cool, that sounds a effective way to deal with some nasties. 18:35 in 3.7.x now knock spell also does the same, but only for small creatures afai can see 18:35 <@xdminsy> Oh I don't know that, I hardly cast force bolt in 3.7. 18:35 pushed some cockatrices into the lava in Gehennom for fun 18:35 <@xdminsy> Good to know that. 18:36 <@xdminsy> You are destroying some artifact c corpses 😛 18:36 heh, left my icebox at home 18:36 YANI: portable icebox or "esky" 18:37 just big enough for one or two small corpses, maybe a six-pack of booze 18:37 <@xdminsy> Usually I just leave them and mark the level, then come to kill and grab the corpse then levelport to sanctum. 18:37 yeah likewise, cursed teleprot scrolls 18:38 <@xdminsy> The evilhack one is not so effective, but that's not too bad that we won't be oneshot by c corpse too. 18:38 I think the idea is to even the scales, player vs monster 18:39 <@xdminsy> Does one can effectively stone the Lucifer by wielding the c corpse? 18:39 not really sure how else to kill demogorgon though 18:39 <@xdminsy> Well I think paralysis should work. 18:39 yeah paralysis + free action 18:40 paralysis lasts longer in evilhack 18:40 <@xdminsy> I think some magic missiles are able to kill demogorgon? 18:40 was just reading that somewhere 18:40 <@xdminsy> I usually only cast magic missiles at every montsers in vanilla.. 18:40 -!- krm26_ has joined #evilhack 18:41 <@xdminsy> The demogorgon is awful that my xnh game carelessly just work onto the demogorgon and stunned and keep being sickness. 18:41 <@xdminsy> Like I quaffed about 10+ full healing :P. 18:42 <@xdminsy> For some reason I was wearing +4 ring of carring and +6 increase damage, I intended to throw darts.. 18:43 <@xdminsy> That seems good in lategame, while the free action are more crucial. 18:44 need to use the right tools for the job 18:44 <@xdminsy> I may only enconutered maybe once or twice demogorgon in vanilla. 18:44 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:45 ok, i have a vanisher wand and it isn't make invisible 18:45 so I have a bunch of cursed stuff I'd like to cancel, and gone to bottom of sokoban to zap 18:45 <@xdminsy> Try to put it into a bag of holding to check what it is 😛 18:45 that way if it's teleport, won;t be hard to find them again 18:46 oh I have a spare boh, but I'd like to keep that too :D 18:46 cancellation it is! 18:54 just force bolted a Z, "A looking glass shatters into a thousand pieces!" 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed bag of holding containing 89 items on an altar, on T:7053 (1:56:45) 18:55 <@xdminsy> Why would it carry a mirror. 18:56 death-drop 19:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 37297 points, T:7532, killed by Ms. Vanzac; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 19:02 ugh 19:03 <@xdminsy> Oooops. 19:04 unforced error 19:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:16378 (12:10:46) 19:10 though I need reflection, went for the armor instead 19:11 as I don't want an amulet of MR, but both armor types would work for me 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1943 (0:14:41) 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 69562 points, T:22003, killed by a quasit 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2961 points, T:2663, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:4351 (1:23:01) 19:34 "You feel completely healthy." 19:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4690 points, T:4044, killed by a piranha 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5418 (1:36:08) 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6181 (1:42:57) 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an elven watch captain), on T:6932 (1:52:29) 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an elven watch captain), on T:6945 (1:52:36) 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7148 (1:53:35) 20:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 43 points, T:157, killed by a sewer rat 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1245 points, T:1523, killed by a gnomish wizard 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9151 (2:07:03) 20:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Magus (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:10447 (3:27:02) 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an elder minotaur), on T:11248 (2:19:00) 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha), 22798 points, T:11469, killed by a water troll, while attempting to cheat Death 20:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Magus (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11913 (3:44:18) 20:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Magus (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11953 (3:45:22) 20:36 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:37 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 759 points, T:1510, killed by a rabid dog, while unconscious from rotten food 20:43 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19099 (13:46:19) 20:52 "What do you want to read? [fu or ?*]" 20:52 I read that as a clear "fu" 20:54 hahhaahahahhaha muahahahaha "burning hands" 20:54 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 20:55 oh hello a gargoyle just dropped "s - a magical copper knife named Secespita." 20:56 good for the saccing 20:58 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:75836 (20:40:10) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3432 (0:11:34) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2126 points, T:2264, killed by a large spider 21:20 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6827 (0:28:41) 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7459 (0:31:48) 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7950 (0:35:18) 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 439 points, T:775, killed by a bolt of cold 21:49 Grasshopper, forge secespita and magicbane together to create the staff of the archmagi 21:49 yeah was thiking that 21:50 as soon as Thoth opens up his lost-and-found box and rummages around to find Magicbane for me 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:11118 (0:49:12) 21:50 been saccing but apparently Thoth is out gardening for now 21:52 checking log files, tinklebear found or wished for the dragonskin CoMR, but never put it on 21:52 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1719272644.evil.html 21:52 do knights start naked? Tinkle was 21:53 I take off clothes to go to bed at night, but that's not the same 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:12857 (0:56:01) 22:02 YANI: magical pearwood acorn - plant it where you want a magic chest, and it sprouts into a magic chest with "roots through the earth" to the other magic chests 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1884 (0:19:11) 22:07 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4669 (0:32:55) 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4954 (0:36:52) 22:30 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: client quit] 22:30 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:20111 (1:29:44) 22:31 Grasshopper: he was probably doing zen conduct 22:32 K2 "Voluntary challenges: 22:32 You were faithfully nudist" 22:34 though I can't reason why one would choose a knight for that 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:20761 (1:33:40) 22:36 still, I'm enjoying the dragonskin CoMR a lot 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a long sword entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:21094 (1:35:22) 22:36 I almost killed myself doing nurse dancing. I didn't see a zombie corpse was lying in a pile. I was illithid so stressed after taking off gauntlets. Zombie infected me and was at death door before a nurse hit healed me :) 22:37 k3ut0i, lucky you!! 22:38 In one of my first games, I dropped the bag so I would be stressed. A nurse picked it up, hit me and vanished with my bag of hesperides! Lol! almost made me quit the game. 22:39 imagine that happening IRL next time you need to go to the hospital 22:42 Lol! I've actually seen a movie where that happens: a mafia guy comes to hospital after an accident and in his posession is a case full of money and the nurse absconds with it :) 22:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:6399 (0:50:52) 22:44 ask yourself: what would I do? 22:47 big bags of money are hot potatoes and always come with big bags of problems. 22:47 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) averted death (turned to slime by a green slime), on T:22954 (1:46:16) 22:47 For me, I'd probably just put it somewhere safe and hopefully enjoy some appreciation (reward) afterwards 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 16297 points, T:10929, killed by a zruty 22:50 big bags of money are always followed by guys like chigurh! We have seen how that turned out :) 22:50 !lastgame beman 22:50 k3ut0i: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/beman/evilhack/dumplog/1719353368.evil.html 22:50 found a crystal dwarven mattock, shopkeeper offered me $1250 for it! 22:51 I decided to keep it as I've already bought first round of protection 22:51 I figure it'll weight a bit less than a standard pickaxe, but cut faster 22:54 it does weigh less, but I don't think it digs any faster 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:25544 (1:54:34) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:100179 (2 days, 7:08:27) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:26152 (1:58:46) 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:27042 (2:03:18) 23:13 k3ut0i, it would as digging speed is based directly on "damage" to the rock, and mattocks do more damage 23:14 in grunt I once had a plastic pickaxe - slower but very light 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Ith Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9219 (1:23:08) 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) had a spear entrusted to her by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:29307 (2:16:43) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by an owlbear), on T:29669 (2:17:59) 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Kni Dra Fem Cha), 105344 points, T:34634, killed by a jaguar, while attempting to cheat Death 23:39 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]