00:00 evil 00:00 very recent as in 00:00 earlier today 00:00 you can check the commit history 00:00 wow. do not like this. 00:00 I mean, I do like charisma having more meaning 00:01 and pretty that is how D&D handles it. 00:01 ^pretty sure that 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Mal Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:59014 (1 day, 2:47:22) 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5492 points, T:8718, killed by the Goblin King 00:42 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:56 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57 -!- sludge_ has joined #evilhack 01:08 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 5018 points, T:2719, killed by a lesser homunculus 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:21259 (18:21:31) 01:42 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21261 (18:21:45) 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:21624 (18:35:48) 02:17 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1778 (0:27:48) 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3419 (0:58:38) 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:33 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1710 points, T:3799, killed by a silver crossbow bolt 02:36 !tell sloppyfirsts blessed scroll of magic detection detects and identifies magical items in magical containers (bag of holding, crystal chest) but strangely enough not in your magic chest 02:36 I'm on it, mobileuser. 02:37 he discovered this live, yes 02:37 I read the discussion, there was confusion about regular containers 02:38 but this is the correct rule and I see it's not mentioned yet on the evilhack page 03:03 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:22493 (19:42:20) 03:04 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) wished for "20 blessed +2 silver shuriken of lightning", on T:37594 (22:06:57) 03:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) wished for "20 blessed +2 silver shuriken of lightning", on T:37596 (22:07:19) 03:18 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:20 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3088 points, T:5128, killed by a piranha 03:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:48 chatting to a revenant paralyses you 03:49 things that make a MS_BONES sound in general 03:49 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:49 "rattles bones (skeleton)" 04:01 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish chain mail entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:23280 (20:40:53) 04:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:38358 (22:47:37) 04:12 !tell K2 I still get the message "You feel unable to rest or recuperate here." as draugr in the VotD (recuperating works just fine) 04:12 I'm on it, mobileuser. 05:14 Now that I've become "limber", I finally realised that lizard corpses are permafood for draugar 05:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6752 (1:03:49) 05:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:7356 (1:11:05) 05:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:39181 (23:33:23) 05:36 Tal'Gath dies from its illness 05:36 heheh 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Dra Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8339 (1:12:16) 05:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:39320 (23:41:20) 05:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:39332 (23:42:33) 06:00 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:39855 (1 day, 0:02:23) 06:53 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:05 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:40267 (1 day, 0:21:47) 07:19 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:19 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:19 Ludios had a mithril runed spear of excellence 07:19 that will be nice for Astral 07:21 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:34 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44 mobileuser hi 07:44 K2: Message from mobileuser at 2024-05-31 04:12 EDT: I still get the message "You feel unable to rest or recuperate here." as draugr in the VotD (recuperating works just fine) 07:45 yeah that message is hard coded into the des file 07:45 ah a des thing 07:45 i need to change that to a com_pager() msg or something 07:45 if draugr else 07:46 smop :-) 07:47 heh not really difficult to do 07:47 also, magic chests are special as in the way the game sees them and how they exist vs regular containers 07:47 so not too surprised a scroll of magic detection doesnt look inside of it 07:51 yeah it's not a regular object 07:53 I mean, it's magic, but it's a terrain feature, not an object 07:53 yup 07:54 so the detect_magic routine (or whatever it's called) would need to be adjusted 07:56 now that i think about it, crystal chests should prob be off limits to the scroll, as its meant to be immune to most other forms of magic 07:58 heh having to retrain my muscle memory here a bit since #quit requires yes instead of y 07:58 but, this is a good thing 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 6619 points, T:8222, killed by a piranha 08:05 it's funny when you read blessed magic detection at the castle and wand of wishing becomes identified, then you know it will be in a crystal chest 08:06 perhaps it shouldn't leak that information 08:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:41152 (1 day, 0:45:25) 08:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:51 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 08:52 oh snap 08:53 the msg entering the valley already is handled by com_pager() 08:53 err 08:53 no, but it's a pline, not in the des file 08:53 so easy fix 08:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:55 ah even better 08:57 searching revealed a magic trap with a valkyrie corpse on top 08:57 at some point I'm still gonna step on it of course :-P 08:59 :P 09:08 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6d75000173ee...a5317cb5054d 09:08 [EvilHack] k21971 a5317cb - Fix: tweak message about recuperation when entering the Valley of the Dead as Draugr. 09:11 \o/ 09:11 it's live 09:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:29 wow loggers got the first 0.8.4 ascension (and the first draugr ever) 09:29 awesome! 09:29 I seem to be quite late to it 09:29 :D 09:30 potions of object detection work on things in containers, but not magic chests. scrolls of magic detection don't work on things in containers at all 09:30 i coulda swore a blessed scroll would id things in your bag 09:31 or in other containers laying about 09:31 oh i see mobileuser said magic containers do work 09:32 but yeah, mundane ones don't 09:33 yeah blessed scrolls of magic detection work fine for your BoH and crystal chests 09:34 but not ordinary sacks, chests etc 09:35 it would be nice if it worked on your magic chest too 09:40 peaceful zombies stuck in webs on top of chests... I see no alternative but to kill them 09:42 k2, so whats the status on draugr, you happy with them? gonna change anything? :) 09:43 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master cbus :-) 09:43 there have been several tweaks and fixes 09:44 fixes are one thing but thinking more larger changes (not saying there is anything wrong with draugr just curious about post release thoughts) 09:45 I havent tried it enough to have an opinion 09:46 i think draugr is dialed in 09:46 when junethack starts there wont be any updates to evilhack unless its a bug fix 09:47 cool, sounds good! 09:47 but yeah look over the changelog 09:47 will do 09:47 *launches lazygit* 09:47 I would still like it better if draugr infidel started with a ring of fire res or something 09:47 Feels weird that the role that's supposed to be the Master of Fire starts without any fire res 09:49 the struggle is real 10:03 I noticed the 3.7 nerf today on diluted potion alchemy today, pretty harsh 10:03 (* minus one today) 10:05 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 10:05 why do draugr infidels specifically start without fire res? 10:06 because draugr/undead 10:06 Do they have fire vulnerability? 10:06 no 10:07 not in the sense that monsters do 10:07 master/arch liches are undead but have fire res 10:07 they arent zombies 10:07 read - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/d12e25a624f2656ab29bfb119283c8d71060f5a9 10:09 not infidels specifically Noisytoot, all draugar 10:09 they can only reach 50% innate, which is fine, just get an external source 10:09 YASI: drowgr race, like draugr but also drow 10:09 lol 10:09 hah 10:11 Noisytoot has anyone tried to ascend octopode yet in nndnh? 10:12 how does monster vulnerability work? 10:12 malor ascended mon-oct 10:13 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/notnotdnethack/dumplog/1716656710.nndnh.txt 10:14 neat 10:14 shadowrider38, monsters can have an M4 flag on their template settings 10:14 those cover vulnerability to various types of elemental damage 10:15 so a monster with M4_VULNERABLE_FIRE will take 1.5x the amount of damage for a source of fire 10:16 then, you have the monster spell 'vulnerability' 10:16 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Vulnerability 10:16 which will temporarily make the target have their vuln to the type of element dropped by 50% 10:16 v. different from vanilla mechanics 10:16 ahh i think i see 10:17 that spell affects extrinsic sources too 10:17 so even if you were wearing a ring of fire res, having that spell cast on your for fire would still drop resistance down to 50% 10:17 ^ that as a permanent vuln for draugr is too much 10:18 hence the way i did my commit 10:18 yeah that is certainly a downside 10:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 10:20 are they immune to the non-fire part of hellfire due to being undead? 10:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 12895 points, T:9309, killed by a Woodland-elf, while attempting to cheat Death 10:24 Noisytoot that's a good question 10:24 right now prob not 10:25 i need to dbl check 10:34 so in mcastu.c there's a check against nonliving(youmonst.data) hellfire shouldnt affect 10:34 but i'm betting i'll need to toss in a check vs racial_zombie() too 10:34 easy enough to test 10:35 'The hellish flames sear your soul!' 10:35 yup, need an extra check 10:35 why don't they count as nonliving? 10:36 honestly i'm not sure. technically they should 10:36 #define nonliving(ptr) \ 10:36 (is_undead(ptr) || (ptr) == &mons[PM_MANES] || weirdnonliving(ptr)) 10:36 yup and they fall under is_undead() 10:36 is_undead checks MH_UNDEAD 10:37 and MH_UNDEAD is (MH_ZOMBIE | MH_UNZOMBIE) 10:37 youmonst.data is your role monster 10:38 unless polyd of course 10:38 draugrs certainly count as undead, but knights/monks/etc don't 10:39 uuuugh, gonna cost about 2 grand to fix my wifes car 10:39 dammit 10:39 oof 10:39 :( 10:40 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:40 dnh has a #define youracedata (maybe_polyd(youmonst.data, &mons[urace.malenum])) macro that is used everywhere that avoids bugs like that 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:25458 (22:13:15) 10:45 not a bug 10:45 just how things are setup 10:46 i read the movement code yesterday 10:46 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/a5317cb5054d...6d1efd81d8c1 10:46 [EvilHack] k21971 6d1efd8 - Fix: Draugr should not be affected by hellfire. 10:46 now i know about player movement points in nethack 10:47 woop 10:47 unfortunately i could not find anything i could exploit 10:47 :) 10:47 i thought i could force tortles to have movement 12 anyway, but i was just stupid 10:47 maybe i will find something sooner or later 10:48 go for it 10:48 i will def. play the zombie race though, that looks like a lot of fun 10:48 draugr 10:48 yeah 10:48 just in time for junethack! 10:48 so far it's been well received i think? 10:48 cool! 10:48 i havent heard any crazy negative feedback 10:50 fuck the haters anyway 10:50 :P 10:55 isnt the design goal of evil to make its playerbase suffer 10:55 :P 10:55 well yeah. but you cant enjoy the sweet without the sour 10:55 :P 10:56 -!- malor has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:58 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 10:59 i did not make the time to finish this run before june 10:59 i may have to quit :( 11:08 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6d1efd81d8c1...d249ff8aa912 11:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin ec778c1 - Object/magic detection work through all non-crystal containers 11:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin f9c2636 - Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack 11:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin d249ff8 - Extraneous newline 11:11 there used to be a (vanilla) bug where saving/restore would actually *lose* you movement points 11:11 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 625 points, T:2725, killed by a small mimic, while sleeping 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:139 (0:01:43) 11:42 terrapin: actually, starting the game as a centaur in evilhack will give you 12 movement points on the first turn, not 18 11:42 robbed, bug, unplayable 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 81 points, T:141, killed by a fox, while praying 11:42 delete 11:43 smh my head 11:43 whereas tortle and giant get their full 12 11:43 s/their/the/ 11:43 i've been discovered, destroy the planet! 11:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1KWyvL9ous 11:48 so the optimal tortle strategy is to save and reload each turn? 11:48 everyone starts the game with 12 movement points so they can actually move on T:1 11:49 Noisytoot: i thought this, but the check is explicitely for the first turn of the game 11:49 after that, saving/reloading has no effect on movement 11:51 it used to be that saving/restoring would always give 12 points 11:52 but they'd be used up to give you the chance to move, so in effect it actually lost any fraction of points you had when you saved last move 11:52 in particular slow races took two turns to move after each restore 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:26540 (23:42:59) 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14963 (2:51:09) 12:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:52 are the eyes of the overworld any good against the Baalzebub stare? 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:27365 (1 day, 0:29:58) 13:02 stun (magical eyes, Baalzebub) 13:02 so yes :-) 13:03 The alhoon concentrates.  A wave of psychic energy pours over you! It feels quite soothing. 13:03 that's what we like 13:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:42266 (1 day, 2:23:43) 13:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42577 (1 day, 2:43:22) 13:48 @e?Lucifer 13:48 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis, demon 13:51 what does "Draugr should not be affected by hellfire" mean for Lucifer's cast fire attack? 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4816 (1:47:17) 14:06 it will act like normal 8d8 fire damage, instead of partially bypassing fire resistance resistance 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4909 (1:53:12) 14:23 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/d249ff8aa912...9ba2c89f5b7e 14:23 [EvilHack] k21971 9ba2c89 - Draugr are properly vulnerable to fire. 14:24 thx terrapin 14:26 yup, so one more bonus for being draugr (the hellfire bit) 14:27 without magic missile, my monk will probably have to melee him at some point, so that is very welcome 14:27 it's YUGE 14:27 lol 14:27 Y U G E L Y 14:27 \o/ 14:49 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 14:49 -!- copper.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1d00gi8 14:49 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 14:49 <@k21971> !ping 14:49 @k21971: Pong! 14:49 <@Cerebot> pong 14:49 <@k21971> !lastgame 14:49 @k21971: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/fubaz/evilhack/dumplog/1717170030.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/McPanther/evilhack/dumplog/1716993900.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jelly99/evilhack/dumplog/1716734779.evil.html 14:50 [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilBot/compare/47e6b8e277fd...0e59e21586cf 14:50 [EvilBot] k21971 0e59e21 - Fix: discord bridge changing format of nicknames slightly. 14:55 spellbook of burning hands? new? 14:55 (obviously) 14:56 is that confuse monster or whatever? 14:59 <@loggers_viii> it just adds fire damage to your melee attacks 14:59 oh nice. thanks loggers 15:00 i went to rehab. trying to not be an asshole 15:02 and my plan is to make a new userid and not scum 15:04 bare handed melee attacks rather 15:04 cant be wielding anything 15:05 @loggers_viii the bot will recognize commands from discord again 15:08 Orcus has a wand of death. Classic mode! 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Hob Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:21360 (9:28:27) 15:09 Orcus' maple wand breaks apart and explodes! 15:09 :-( 15:09 Orcus HAD a wand of death 15:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:43056 (1 day, 3:12:00) 15:11 D: 15:17 heheh 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:10132 (3:14:34) 15:41 was that just random? 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law), 9285 points, T:10466, killed by a blast of frost 15:41 (the wand?) 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1974 (0:17:33) 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43792 (1 day, 3:43:49) 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43793 (1 day, 3:43:54) 15:58 rebatela yes 15:58 first wand of death in the whole game 15:58 only one 15:58 and of course I had to destroy it :-P 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Mal Una) killed Medusa, on T:61980 (1 day, 4:58:50) 16:18 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1302 16:18 -!- Guest1302 has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 16:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:28 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30 I see that having an AoLS doesn't cure player monsters from "infected by a zombie" 16:30 good :-) 16:32 "peaceful giant zombie called Clewar the Conqueress" 16:43 !who 16:43 mobileuser: [hdf-us] Merrywidow [evil] hanran24 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 16:44 twas the night before junethack and almost no players were stirring on the servers 16:50 Mephistopheles appears in a cloud of brimstone! 16:50 oops 16:53 he heard you smack talking 16:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:44314 (1 day, 4:10:54) 16:53 boop 16:53 :-) 16:56 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 16:58 nice, Graz'zt 16:58 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:58 I say nice, because at least Lucifer won't be able to summon him 16:59 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:59 heh 16:59 I see that having an AoLS doesn't cure player monsters from "infected by a zombie" <--- it was probably cursed 16:59 i just tested this with an uncursed "oLS 16:59 and it worked like it was supposed to 16:59 but but 17:00 YUT 17:00 a cursed amulet should have killed him/her straight away? 17:00 no revival? 17:00 well revived as a zombo 17:00 hmm 17:00 no they revived 17:01 only when I killed them a second time they revived as zombo 17:01 i wonder if it didnt clear zombo sickness 17:01 which is ok 17:01 huh 17:01 it didn't seem to when I checked with the stethoscope 17:02 feature! 17:02 side note - I'm smoking some chicken breasts, and I have the windows open, and the smell from the smoker is absolutely divine 17:02 using a combo of hickory and applewood 17:03 I'm glad I already had dinner :-P 17:03 heh 17:03 bon appetit! 17:03 it'll be another hour or so before they are ready 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1790 points, T:3857, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 17:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:44480 (1 day, 4:31:02) 17:21 boop 17:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:22 heh 17:22 boop the snoot 17:23 oh fuck lol 17:23 I cancelled my own shuriken 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the Goblin King), on T:1220 (0:09:23) 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1222 (0:09:27) 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (piranha), on T:1233 (0:09:42) 17:25 so far I am still genoless 17:25 that would be a first for me in any variant 17:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:30 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 17:32 really 17:32 you can do it 17:32 i've pulled off several genoless asc, even a couple in evilhack i think 17:32  I am not one for conduct play :-) 17:32 :) 17:33 but this time I don't have any real reason for genocides 17:33 I skipped vecna and beholders can't hurt me 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha), 4424 points, T:2004, killed by an elven watch captain, while attempting to cheat Death 17:34 I just saw on the wiki that undead can't wither away 17:34 another advantage of draugr 17:36 yup 17:37 had to add in some downsides, esp in the fire dept 17:37 balance it out 17:37 still a very stong race i think 17:38 chciken almost done... smells SO GOOOOOD 17:38 no spellcasting is a major downside 17:38 can be 17:39 if i play barb or samurai, i generally ignore spellbooks 17:39 yeah me too 17:39 just read one to get a source of confusion 17:39 but for a monk it is a downside 17:39 but that can easily be had by hoarding a small handful of potions of booze/confusion 17:39 yeah 17:39 hey at least you can wear armor head to toe 17:40 or cursed scrolls of confusion 17:40 scroll of confusion? :) 17:40 oh right 17:40 confuse monster 17:40 ah yeah sorry 17:40 confused! 17:41 * Umbire throws mobileuser a unicorn horn 17:41 lol 17:41 not cursed I hope :-P 17:43 nearly bedtime, enjoy the chicken K2! 17:43 yz! 17:45 thanks mobileuser 17:45 o/ 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:43073 (1 day, 4:56:11) 18:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38 !1d4 18:38 Umbire: 1 18:45 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:49 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 18:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:52 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:53 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 18:53 -!- stenno has quit [Client Quit] 18:53 -!- chao has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:07 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 19:12 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 19:34 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dra Mal Cha), 236638 points, T:43156, quit 19:45 rip my chance at one and won con dra 19:48 you quit at turn 43k? Why? 19:50 because the game wouldnt count for junethack :P 19:50 i want to play evilhack for t 19:51 just the latest example of shadowrider makes it to castle and then loses motivation in the run 19:53 I've had that a lot in non-dnh variants, especially the more vanilla-like ones. Where you basically can never be killed but have to slog through 20 levels of hell anyway. It gets pretty boring. DNH and Slash(em/them) make those levels pretty fast since you can magic map them all with ease and not have blow off necessary ascension "wishes/items". 19:54 But evilhack is pretty interesting AFTER the castle. Several more unique challenges. 19:54 One day I will get to xLevel 2 and dLevel 2 in Evil hack. That's my long term goal! 19:54 yeah evil def doesnt have that problem 19:54 LOL 19:55 malor i feel like you would clear evil faster than you thin 19:56 I don't think so. I'm very adept at *dnh and that's my zone. :) 19:58 you are very adept at nethack and its variants, and those people tend to be alright at evil ;) 19:59 shadowrider38: why not play on hdf-eu or hdf-au for junethack instead of quitting your game? 20:13 i have a decent game going in evil as well that i'm probably gonna quit 20:13 or i guess i'll kms and try to leave bones for someone 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 59398 points, T:19878, petrified by a cockatrice 20:17 20:20 K2, barbed devils are immune to digestion, right? 20:21 I remember this or another variant having spiked enemies be immune 20:49 -!- Loggers_VIII is now known as Loggers 20:49 -!- Loggers is now known as Loggers_VIII 21:04 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Demo (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 1346 points, T:839, killed by a giant ant, while paralyzed by a monster 21:27 Umbire nope 21:31 Noisytoot ew no those servers are cringe 21:32 (i was already looking for a reason to quit the game) 21:52 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55 cringe? lol 21:55 you spelled 'ping too high' wrong 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1434 points, T:1141, killed by a giant cockroach 22:06 -!- rld has joined #evilhack 22:06 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v rld] by ChanServ 22:08 -!- MTF has joined #evilhack 22:08 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09 -!- rld has joined #evilhack 22:09 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v rld] by ChanServ 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Dra Mal Una) averted death (killed by a rock piercer), on T:2361 (0:13:29) 22:20 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Dra Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:2782 (0:18:05) 22:21 ooooh yeah boi 22:21 lucky! 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:46219 (1 day, 8:10:07) 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46229 (1 day, 8:11:05) 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3080 (0:23:50) 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Dra Mal Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3297 (0:23:50) 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Inf Dra Mal Una), 4307 points, T:4901, died of starvation, while attempting to cheat Death 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3404 points, T:3552, killed by a Woodland-elf 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1940 (0:14:42) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5315 (2:24:16) 23:33 hi 23:33 Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack 23:34 yo xdminsy 23:34 junethack's begun! 23:35 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 23:36 yo loggers. 23:36 I see that, what to play. 23:36 Let me check if there's ascension already. 23:37 K2   a saddle warg, being ridden by a Uruk-hai in Goblin Town just attacked me from two spaces away and hit me. 23:37 sloppyfirsts: Message from mobileuser at 2024-05-31 02:36 EDT: blessed scroll of magic detection detects and identifies magical items in magical containers (bag of holding, crystal chest) but strangely enough not in your magic chest 23:38 no ascensions yet, it only started ~4 hours ago 23:40 Wow wow that's totally enough for shadowriders, I think you can do that too. 23:40 Heh, hurry up when shadowriders are sleeping. 23:41 I'd better play some vanilla first, evilhack is too hard. 23:41 lol 23:41 so, are the new regular bracers very rare? have yet to come across a pair. 23:42 Will some soldiers or specific kinds of monsters drop them? 23:42 Cool I see that the hdf now requries return to continue rc errors. 23:43 cleared out Fort Ludios and Castle and no bracers. 23:43 Wow that's super rare. 23:44 I don't think that they spawn at all 23:44 I spent an hour or two messing around with a ndnh trick to get a bunch of medusa kills so no win from me yet 23:45 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:45 It's just dark elven bracers currently 23:46 oh. thought K2's reddit and other posts mentione them? and people have been wishing for them, no? 23:46 Someone mentioned they had mithril bracers. 23:47 umbire, regular bracers were added in 0.8.4 23:47 Loggers have one before. 23:47 we suggest you can wish for blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide bracers of telepathy. 23:47 Or of drain. 23:47 yeah they make for a very good wish 23:48 so, forging and wish only for now? 23:48 you could maybe polypile for them? I'm not sure if that works 23:48 but they definitely don't spawn in any monster inventory 23:49 Hm 23:49 Where comes your mithril bracers? 23:50 you can _really_ have dragonhide bracers?!    or is that a hope/wish to have that obj material? 23:50 someone here on IRC mentione mithril bracers a day, or three ago. 23:50 dammit.. time for new keyboar, i guess 23:50 I wished for the mithril ones 23:51 aa works too much (which is fixaable) 23:51 yes, you can have dragonhide ones. bracers can be of soft or hard materials, I just wished for mithril cuz I thought they were always metallic 23:51 but 'd' is not working all of the time 23:52 What's your nickname on hdf sloppyfirsts? 23:52 it varies. 23:52 Heh fine. 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:11372 (4:22:31) 23:52 I see shadowrider playing evilhack. 23:53 right now I resting/parked with draugr infidel as Merrywidow 23:53 ^I am resting 23:53 fun character, but overwhelming 23:54 there's a lot to keep track of as both inf and dra 23:54 xdminsy i am really rusty 23:54 i died a few times in 3.7 to silly things so i gave up 23:55 gotta stick to the easier stuff like evil 23:55 3.6/3.7 makes a lot of things a lot harder, actually 23:55 easier lol. 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:47267 (1 day, 9:35:44) 23:55 Gooood luck shadowrider38. 23:56 also does anyone know what the formula for draugr when trying to tame a zombie? 23:56 its luck based but is there a chance of it working with no luck 23:57 nvm i answered my own question 23:57 luck. 23:57 yes, you can tame, but is a lot harder