00:01 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 00:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:17 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:15664 (8:26:11) 00:37 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6198 (0:55:05) 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a dwarf king), on T:10065 (1:33:38) 01:34 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13085 (1:51:53) 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:13191 (1:54:59) 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:13208 (1:55:21) 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Mal Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:19005 (7:39:32) 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Mal Una) became literate by engraving "...", on T:19338 (7:44:56) 01:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (died of starvation), on T:19096 (2:21:50) 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:21471 (2:40:30) 02:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) had a silver broadsword entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:18616 (9:41:10) 02:23 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:61860 (14:09:10) 02:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:61861 (14:09:12) 02:43 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) refused to give up The Striped Shirt of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, on T:62261 (14:12:29) 02:43 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Robert the Lifer, on T:62262 (14:12:35) 02:49 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 65454 points, T:26950, killed by a troll, while attempting to cheat Death 03:05 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a rothe), on T:2497 (0:09:14) 03:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:6303 (0:28:43) 03:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8288 (0:43:44) 03:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8312 (0:44:03) 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:73768 (15:25:54) 04:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:75938 (15:31:01) 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of spider silk levitation boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:76509 (15:33:00) 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:78880 (15:39:13) 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:81828 (15:48:49) 04:26 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:83323 (15:55:35) 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:84691 (15:57:29) 04:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a copper stiletto entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:84830 (15:58:23) 04:35 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:86944 (16:04:41) 04:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) had a staff of divination entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:19730 (10:18:10) 04:39 lol talk about a useless gift for a draugr 04:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:87873 (16:08:45) 04:39 ^ K2 maybe something to exclude as well 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a shield of reflection entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:88046 (16:10:04) 04:45 if I kill giants with my shuriken I can at least eat them before they turn into zombies :-) 04:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a steel broadsword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:90897 (16:19:48) 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a steel dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:91458 (16:21:26) 04:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:20025 (10:32:08) 04:52 damn, another one 04:54 Oh no, those staves are useless for draugr. 04:54 Maybe the game should track that if somebody never cast a spell. 04:54 Then won't gift spellbooks and such staves. 04:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:93108 (16:27:16) 04:59 lets see if my ignore on the bot works :P 04:59 ignoring everything from the bot minus the phrase mobileuser (for now, changing to ascends once I see it gets messages through!) 04:59 please let me know if the bot posts anything about mobileuser 04:59 in case it gets ignored (used chatgpt) 05:00 maybe I will get another useless spell staff soon, then the bot will report it :-) 05:01 \o/ 05:02 Add some regex? 05:02 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:93913 (16:31:24) 05:02 /ignore -regexp -channels #evilhack -pattern '^(?!.*mobileuser).*' hecubus ALL 05:02 yeah 05:03 it seems I reached max luck now, so there probably won't be anything to report for a while 05:03 doh :D 05:03 if only you had done this a bit sooner ;-) 05:03 I guess I could add it on #hardfought for the other bot too 05:04 but another phrase :P 05:04 I'm not sure, the /ignore command is the client side or the server side command? 05:04 or intentionally suicide a char ;P 05:04 client side 05:04 xdminsy is a good one to add :-) 05:04 I think at least 05:04 he's altar camping 05:04 /ignore -regexp -channels #evilhack -pattern '^(?!.*xdminsy).*' hecubus ALL 05:04 oops 05:04 heh 05:04 (space) :P 05:04 I have so many gifts when farming for AoR :D 05:05 I added xdminsy instead now so let me know if the bot trigers! 05:06 Maybe soon lol. 05:06 no stress :) 05:06 gonna head out for lunch and a long walk soon anyway probably 05:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:94493 (16:37:21) 05:08 yay it worked! 05:08 Great \o/. 05:08 And I can now use my Grayswandir. 05:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:10 /ignore -regexp -channels #hardfought -pattern '^(?!.*ascends).*' beholder ALL 05:10 is what I went for if anyone wants to try 05:11 There should be ascensions every day lol. 05:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a bone knife entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:95938 (16:46:36) 05:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:96288 (16:48:27) 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:97518 (16:52:47) 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a mithril aklys bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:100060 (17:03:50) 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Pri Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:66 (0:05:43) 05:44 [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 389 points, T:889, zombified by a diseased gnome corpse 06:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3109 (0:14:18) 06:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3852 points, T:3683, killed by a piranha 07:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 456 points, T:1012, killed by Mr. Zonguldak; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 07:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 480 points, T:1400, killed by a kobold lady, while fainted from lack of food 07:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide striped shirt of ESP", on T:21323 (11:12:20) 07:08 lucky smoky 07:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Abdlabl (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 167 points, T:445, burned by molten lava 07:21 I get dinged on my dexterity all the time because I'm constantly satiated, but my already low wisdom gets lowered too... 07:22 ah, monk thing 07:22 well, as draugr being satiated is important 07:23 Will they chock? 07:23 choke :D. 07:27 breathless, so can't choke 07:27 Wow cool. 07:28 I have no projectiles of lightning then I forged 6 +7 silver aklys :( 07:28 Hope these are enough. 07:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 oilskin toque", on T:107397 (18:58:14) 07:29 My smoky is fruit juice this game heh. 07:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:05 nice! 08:08 I'm sure you already know this xdminsy, but you want to wield an aklys before you throw it :-) 08:13 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 08:16 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:29 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:34 Thanks for advice :D 08:34 I'm afraid that I'll have 5 aklys failed to return. 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:109795 (20:04:11) 08:49 1 in 100 chance of failure, always good to have backup! =D 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:110895 (20:26:05) 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:111318 (20:41:36) 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:111342 (20:42:03) 09:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:112379 (21:00:06) 09:42 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:54 -!- K2 is now known as k2 09:55 -!- k2 is now known as K2 09:55 Well I lost 5 aklys and Vecna has still 100 hp. 09:55 What the hell :( 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 13036 points, T:10765, killed by a gargoyle, while attempting to cheat Death 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a cockatrice, on T:113685 (21:35:36) 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:113741 (21:37:08) 10:11 \o/ 10:12 I have no idea how to destroy Vecna. 10:12 I polymorphed black dragon again. 10:13 can you cast magic missile as convict? 10:13 I think I can, but I didn't do that this game, maybe next time. 10:13 Convict can reach basic at attack spell. 10:14 it seems easier with magic missile. If Vecna does the reflection spell, you can just go back up the stairs and wait for it to time out 10:15 and yeah, silver aklys of lightning is easier against demon lords 10:15 Maybe because I have no ring of increase damage so that the +7 aklys I think only do 7 + 1d6 damage I think. 10:15 Vecna is immune to almost everything 10:15 yeah 10:15 Yes, unluckily I have only silver plain aklys too. 10:16 The most depressing point is that I check Vecna hp that he has 100 then later the HP grows after I keep shooting. 10:16 He locked his hp and regenerate! :{ 10:17 yeah it's hard to make the final kill when they start casting healing on themselves 10:17 Yes, I tried to use paralysis my Grayswandir + Dichotomy to last hit him, but I'm always missing :( 10:17 does convict have 2-handed sword skill? 10:18 No. 10:18 still worth using the sword of kas 10:18 i killed vecna using it as a dorf wizard 10:18 missing a lot is scary :-) 10:18 I'm not sure maybe I single wield Grayswandir may have better dice than dualwield. 10:19 Again I lost 100+ maxhp, I think I'd never melee Vecna next time :D 10:19 K2 do you enchant sword of kas? 10:20 What does it x2/x3 means, x3 to Vecna? 10:20 I may try that next time, this time my Sword of Kas dropped in lava I think lol. 10:23 yes i do 10:25 I have to polymorph into a small creature then the black dragon, otherwise the shirt will break :( 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to her by Venus, on T:852 (0:04:52) 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) murdered MiisuBoi, her faithful little dog, on T:965 (0:05:33) 10:29 Oh yes, some scrolls of enchant weapon to exchange the drop of Vecna and genociding alhoons. 10:29 I should try that. 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1420 (0:11:11) 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Venus, on T:1893 (0:13:18) 10:37 -!- Frozty has joined #evilhack 10:38 Hey All, what is the command to show you in-game if your Quest is complete? I'm playing xNethack for the first time, and don't know if I need to talk to my Quest Leader again after killing my Nemesis. As far as I can tell, xNethack treats Quests the same as vanilla (?). 10:40 I think no such command? 10:40 I'm not sure, I always talk to leader in vanilla, maybe just go back and talk. 10:40 @e?Beholder 10:40 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 8d8 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, flies, breathless, nopoly, infravis 10:41 it's in the dungeon overview 10:41 so ctrl-o or #overview 10:43 I'm pretty sure K2 had me enter a command in my last game of EvilHack, when I was locked out of the Invocation Ritual... I didn't know that functionality existed (so I haven't used it much). I was thinking it was in #Attributes. Right now my Attributes tell me I think my Quest Artifact (the Eye) belongs to Neferet. So I'm thinking I might need to 10:43 go talk to her again... not sure if I should prepare for her to ask for it like in #evilhack 10:43 OK, #overview 10:44 Oh right, the quest level 1 shows whether you completed the quest. 10:44 OK, overview says nothing about it being complete (or not). It shows the Quest Levels, and Quest Given. Does that mean explicitly not complete? 10:45 OK, yeah then, Level 1 says Given. 10:45 So I'll go back to her.  I feel like in Vanilla I could just skip that step -- just branchporting out of the bottom of the Quest. 10:47 the quest is technically not complete until you talk to the quest leader 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:115076 (22:20:12) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:115199 (22:21:08) 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:115398 (22:22:32) 11:04 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:115991 (22:30:17) 11:04 Frozty for completeness, in evilhack I check with #conduct 11:05 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest122 11:05 -!- Guest122 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:05 I suppose #overview should work too... 11:07 evilhack is apparently becoming the new nethack-variants channel :P 11:07 (Frozty: there is a #xnethack channel) 11:08 heheh 11:09 but to answer your question, xNetHack has been changing how certain quests work. For instance, the Valkyrie quest is completed as soon as you kill Lord Surtur, it is not necessary to speak with the Norn again. 11:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", on T:7285 (0:56:01) 11:20 @mobileuser I thought so too, tried conduct first, and it just said nothing. I'll check it again when I know I'm "complete". Re variants: I'm trying a few just because. My first exposure to Object Properties in EvilHack was like going from black and white TV (vanilla) to color TV. I really loved some of the new things (for me) in HackEm.  I think 11:20 I'll try Slashem next. Hackem seems to be xNethack + Slashem.  Is the HackEm dev still MIA? He bailed right when I was getting into it (and had a few bugs to share). 11:22 -!- Frozty has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:23 -!- Frozty has joined #evilhack 11:24 yeah hack'em is abandonware 11:24 brb 11:24 no sign of him and AFAIK also no reason why he burned all bridges 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:7881 (1:03:45) 11:32 Once I've gone though some others, I'm sure I'll come back to EvilHack. That it is actively developed, and active, helps make it the best I think. There are some things like Shopkeeper Services, Gem Alchemy, Techniques, and some or all the special levels that I'd like to see in EvilHack, but other things are missing in xNethack or Slashem that I 11:32 think are great too (incremental intrinsics, racial shopkeepers, object properties, etc., and just so much of the EvilHack specific content). I'll need a few playthroughs of both of those others before I can really speak to it all though. (And I still need to end my last EvilHack game which is still hanging.) 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8164 (1:09:25) 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:116354 (23:12:50) 11:56 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:116777 (23:22:02) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:117224 (23:26:55) 12:05 fwiw everyone, #overview is the only command of the three (in xNethack) that tells me my Quest is complete. #conduct and #attributes say nothing about it. 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 15588 points, T:10157, killed by an elven priest of Venus 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:118623 (23:38:50) 12:27 I don't think vanilla or any variants show quest status in conduct or attributes 12:28 but all 3.6+ should show it in overview if you have the quest home level in there 12:30 #conduct in evilhack will show you if you've completed your quest 12:30 under the 'achievements completed' section 12:31 oh hm I missed that 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:22743 (12:48:33) 12:31 well if it lists other achievements but not the Quest completion, and you're not playing Valkyrie, then completing the quest should still be bringing the arti back to the ledaer 12:35 aosdict I was kicking around the idea of splitting up wishes like you did in xnh 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Pri Gia Mal Law), 1280 points, T:3652, killed by a hill orc 13:09 slashem and hackem are both unmaintained 13:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:24 aosdict Glad to see and know that you are active here. Didn't catch that that was you as Phol ende wodan too.  Is the #xnethack IRC channel active? I know I can read up on things here with the IRC .log before I come crashing in. Is there a log for the xnethack channel I should read up on, and/or take any xnethack issues/questions I have over 13:24 there? I'm thinking (incorrectly?) that Evilhack is the most active variant and IRC channel. 13:32 The most active variant channels seem to be #evilhack and ##nethack-variants (which mostly has discussion about *dNetHack, even though it's about all variants in theory) 13:33 the gnollhack Variant has an active group also. It is discord only. 13:35 They should bridge to IRC so you don't need to run proprietary malware to join 13:37 "You feel clumsy!  You haven't been working on reflexes lately." 13:37 I'm going to need soooo many restore ability / gain ability potions... 13:38 Forgive me if I ask ignorant questions; it's because I'm pretty much a Luddite. I've never used Discord, and only know this IRC channel because K2 sent me a link (which I bookmarked). I don't even have a cell phone. 13:50 -!- Frozty has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a dwarf lady), on T:9935 (1:28:14) 13:58 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a piranha), on T:3568 (0:19:20) 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a piranha), on T:3907 (0:19:59) 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4492 (0:25:51) 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an orcish watchman), on T:5684 (0:33:19) 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5690 (0:33:26) 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha), 2384 points, T:5690, killed by an orcish watchman, while attempting to cheat Death 14:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:22559 (11:57:50) 14:37 K2 I'm a bit surprised I can't eat a glob of black pudding 14:38 I know IRL "black pudding" is processed food, but in the game it's the remains of a meaty monster I just killed 14:39 (also, spell casting staffs maybe shouldn't be sac gifts for a draugr monk) 14:45 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:45 Can draugr cast spells/have telepathy/revive when polymorphed? 14:46 or eat normal food 14:49 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:49 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:51 you can still use spellstaves as weapons :B 14:52 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Client Quit] 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a pair of silver gauntlets entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7560 (0:28:50) 15:03 Umbire yeah :-) but flavour wise it feels weird 15:03 cast spells? no. telepathy? extrinsic sources only. revive? not per se, if you die when poly'd you just revert back to normal form. then they'd revive per usual 15:03 eat normal food? no 15:04 i'm assuming normal food = food ration and the like 15:04 it's the same rules for ghouls 15:04 can never eat processed food 15:04 or veggie stuff 15:04 Noisytoot meant while poly'd 15:04 yup 15:04 eat normal food while polyd? 15:04 i think so 15:04 lemme check 15:05 yes you can 15:05 i recall making it that way on purpose 15:06 now how about glob of black pudding, that should be fine to eat 15:06 the cast spells/tele/revie bits i answered earlier is still correct 15:06 mobileuser its the same rule for ghouls. i didnt make up the food rule, i just tied draugr in to it 15:07 :O 15:07 wow 15:07 that's really taking a play on words too far 15:07 ? 15:08 i'm just saying, i didnt exclude black puddings on purpose. its just the rule 15:08 I am talking about the devteam :-) 15:08 they took that too far imo 15:08 oh 15:08 I don't think it was taking anything in any particular direction, globs just weren't included in the fleshy stuff ghouls/draugr could eat 15:09 for w/e reason 15:09 here's the code if interested - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/eat.c#L97-L101 15:09 maybe they're not meaty enough? 15:09 I suspect the reason was wordplay, but I can't know of course 15:09 they're certainly not corpses, so 15:09 it's meaty stuff imo 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9129 (0:36:38) 15:10 otyp == CORPSE 15:10 Noisytoot did you see my !tell in #hardfought 15:10 could have been just an oversight then Umbire 15:11 lemme see if devteam edited that for 3.7 15:11 Yeah, I tend to assume oversight first when it comes to slight discrepancies like this 15:12 nope, samesies 15:12 ghoul diet is probably not high on the vanilla to-do list ;-) 15:13 heh 15:13 looking at this made me notice a bit I missed when player monster draugr were made 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a chain mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9733 (0:39:58) 15:15 uh oh, shambling horor... 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10594 (0:42:00) 15:15 make friends with it 15:15 hug it 15:15 lol 15:15 listen to it 15:16 you made it so I can't remember? ;-) 15:16 I used to tame them 15:16 :P 15:16 hug it and pet it and call it george 15:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPdHaNr0OAY 15:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aujOb50T8Pc&list=PLSMETuURtTXCzW7Q_ZIy4QzEnyUG8totf&index=269 15:21 \o/ 15:21 lol 20 cha 15:21 'hell yeah!' 15:23 :-) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11634 (0:49:24) 15:23 4d4 touch paralyze, 5d8 sting cold, 2d7 tentacle energy drain 15:23 not too bad 15:23 lol 'DaveyLuvGravy' 15:24 lol nice name 15:24 this is awesome 15:25 oh here's one for hothraxxa 15:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA_xq44MY6M 15:32 heheh he knows that one 15:38 damn, my first priest on level 20 is lawful 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] GGhana2 (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 7 points, T:50, burned by an exploding fire bomb 15:48 owie 15:57 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] GGhana2 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 2839 points, T:3551, killed by a dwarf king 16:11 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:11 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 16:18 I wonder if I can get my wisdom down to 1 16:19 The floor for all stats is 3 pretty sure 16:20 SLEX (ofc) makes it possible to set stats to 1 16:20 lol 16:24 hey honey badgers 16:24 enjoy all the royal jelly! 16:24 hah 16:28 mobileuser how are you liking draugr so far? 16:28 it's fun! 16:28 \o/ 16:28 pretty challenging 16:29 at least you dont have to lug around food rations :P 16:29 hah 16:29 I guess monk is the easiest to start with 16:29 faster monsters, and drow riding spiders with their stack of 15 arrows becomes terrifying.   even with a source of speed. 16:30 should draugr be able to eat tripe?  it is meat? 16:30 it's cooked 16:31 researched that already :-P 16:32 oh and basically it's just what ghouls are allowed to eat in vanilla 16:33 meaning the diet of draugr is vanilla ghoul or ghouls cane eat tripe? 16:34 also: new command (only for dragur) 'h'arvest.  'harvest what?'  a. brains b. heart, c. liver.    still subject to decay, but can be curtailed by holy water, and saved for later consumption. 16:34 new item: mini ice box. 16:34 bag of preservation. 16:35 sorry, I meant: draugr can eat what vanilla ghoul eats, which means that ghouls can't eat tripe 16:35 figured that is what ya meant. 16:36 see also my rant above about black pudding :-P 16:36 I like your harvesting idea! 16:37 ah yeah, ice boxes 16:37 we need magical ice bags! 16:37 :) 16:38 btw Infidel, brave to start with that one! 16:38 what is a black pudding in DnD? Black pudding IRL is a cooked blood delicacy, is it not? 16:39 it is... 16:40 ooooh chaotic priestess on 23 16:40 I just like infidels, tried barbarians at first.  saw an opportunity and advantages with infidels. . . we shall see... 16:40 shut up and take my money!!!! 16:40 really am excited about the monk, too. 16:41 yeah Infidels are my favourite, but it's hard to imagine a non-spellcasting one 16:42 ok, black pudding in DnD... let's see... 16:42 usually do not like the idea of evil Monk and always play lawful or neutral with strict vegan/veggie no weapon conducts... 16:43 with a ring of slow digestion my current draugr is vomining voluminously. 16:43 it's a ooze-like thing 16:43 an* 16:44 also Evil Monks play into both of those things 16:44 tougher to hit with unskilled weapons, weaponless is more rewarding, diet penalties actually mean something 16:44 ooze, indeed.  hence the 'P'.  but what of its composition make it so a draugr cannot eat it? 16:45 it's a meaty glob, so should be fine. probably a vanilla oversight. 16:45 i know, my reason for stating the monk conducts was the draugr is my chance at breaking fomr my strict Monk regimen. :) 16:45 ^fomr = from 16:47 I just find it hard to imagine an evil monk who is a vegan and refuses to use weapons . . . IRL.  I cannot help my roleplay playstyle. 16:49 if harvest would added it couldn't be h because h means "move left" 16:49 and k means 'k'ick and 'j' jump  . . . and . . . 16:50 'l'oot 16:50 heheh numpad for the win 16:50 k = move up, j = move down, l = move right 16:50 nope, kick, jump, loot :-P 16:50 fine: #harvest 16:51 for the poor vi-key users 16:51 vegeans, vegetarians, and hobbits and #harvest their crops. 16:51 ^can #harvest 16:53 numpad requires more hand movement or 3 hands, and numpad with the number row is just weird 16:56 In my case that's irrelevant, because I play slow anyway 17:08 numpad > vikeys 17:11 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:12 alright, just finished a majority of the giant-related stuff I could immediately think of 17:25 giants can wear mummy wrapping in vanilla I see 17:26 one day that will be in evilhack! 17:26 'h'arvest/#harvest balancing: it takes *several* turns and you will be interrupted many times, most likely. also: you can only use a specific weapon. 17:27 have to wield Secespita? 17:28 I often wondered my giants cannot wear mummy wraps. Also, why do giant mummies not drop wraps? balancing? 17:28 they don't? 17:28 my = why 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:116758 (1 day, 3:13:28) 17:29 no. 17:29 are you sure? 17:29 Unlucky perhaps 17:29 mummies are like 6/7 to generate with them 17:29 so, they drop them, but still cannot be used? 17:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:30 yup 17:30 i might be remembering incorrectly 17:30 happens a lot these days 17:33 so weird to try to not be excited about a food ration 17:36 :-) 17:37 so, if you fail the first time at chat-taming a zombie, will it always fail every attempt after? 17:38 just answered my question. 17:38 you can still tame 17:38 have not been able to do so. 17:40 -!- mobileuser40 has joined #evilhack 17:41 Yeah no, same with convicts and rats 17:41 just keep trying 17:41 can you still tame them when they are peaceful? 17:41 nah 17:41 damn 17:41 I don't think so, anyway. I've tried 17:42 lol 17:42 Umbire? 17:42 I would love to tame all those peaceful giant zombies I created 17:43 yes. 17:43 kick them 17:43 make em hostile 17:43 I think chatting to a hostile guy is what causes the chance for taming/pacification and when they're peaceful it's just treated as normal chatting maybe 17:43 then chat! 17:43 hah that's a nice technique 17:43 aaah.... 17:43 hm, I figured it'd be more like convict 17:43 clever! 17:43 does not abuse alignment 17:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:43 isn't that the same as convict? 17:43 I gotta test this 17:44 -!- mobileuser40 is now known as mobileuser 17:44 Nah convicts can tame peaceful rats I think? 17:44 idk really 17:45 yes, they can tame with peacefuls with food 17:45 (convicts w/ rats) 17:45 not that I have max luck I should be able to get some giant zombie pets... 17:45 * now 17:47 that's for tomorrow 17:48 have fun everyone! 17:48 yz! 17:48 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:49 hm, I wonder if I'll starve trying soko 17:52 yeah, even with regular characters, sure Soko can yield good amounts of food, but you also use a lot pushin' all those damned boulders, 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:83466 (20:40:03) 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:83466 (20:40:08) 17:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:83467 (20:40:13) 18:08 random arc playermon stole my +4 broadsword of lightning! 18:08 luckily on the next hit I termilled her :p 18:12 I continue to carry around money, even if there's no one who will take it from me 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Mal Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22099 (8:38:51) 18:12 the plight of the increasingly rich zombie continues 18:13 my character should have had the foresight to take out a life insurance policy on himself before he went and died 18:16 lol, apparently stuff other than soko prizes can be made green when it's on the soko prize square and you haven't picked up the prize yet. just walked in to find a green boulder (really a giant mimic mimicking a boulder) 18:16 I wonder what the conditions for that are. might be a minor issue 18:16 green boulder is funny, though 18:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:23544 (1:55:33) 18:18 its mossy. 18:19 that giant mimic was a master of its craft 18:21 gold can used for chaotic temple priest, if you are so lucky to find one 18:21 not sure about Moloch priests 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:24588 (2:01:09) 18:23 I think moloch priests would be okay with it 18:24 seems so 18:34 heh snake dropped an oil potion 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:84901 (21:22:48) 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:27160 (2:13:00) 18:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:85398 (21:35:37) 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an adamantine amulet of magic resistance, on T:15454 (3:50:53) 19:32 morning~ 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the Goblin King), on T:1671 (0:11:15) 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1672 (0:11:17) 19:35 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:1696 (0:11:40) 19:36 Wow throne genocide. 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had a trident entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:13001 (2:05:18) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Odin, on T:16292 (4:06:00) 19:54 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/d45f3d854621...1fd8649e6245 19:54 [EvilHack] k21971 1fd8649 - Same food eating rules for monster draugr vs player draugr. 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) made his first wish - "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:13939 (2:16:51) 19:58 so, we can only eat old corpses now? 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:14367 (2:19:55) 20:00 looks like no change to how draugr players work, just a tweak for zombie monsters/zombie polyforms 20:00 ^ 20:00 as well as clarifying comments 20:05 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:11 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Umbire_the_Phantom/Wizard%27s_Tower_(EvilHack) 20:11 how's this look? 20:12 Loggers did the first/third floors and I'm handling the rest 20:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:86828 (22:23:53) 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:86830 (22:24:00) 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:16172 (2:44:19) 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:16317 (2:46:26) 20:26 looks fine 20:28 especially the first and third floors. great work to whoever did those 20:28 I am sure that izchak has a magic lamp in his shop but I have no way of getting in >:(((( 20:31 I guess I'll have to do the quest and then phase in 20:35 should rabid dog corpses confer aggravate monster? 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:30070 (17:57:07) 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:123521 (1 day, 1:02:36) 20:42 not having telepathy is so lame 20:42 that's your fault 20:42 get some :) 20:43 * K2 hands Loggers_VIII a helm of telepathy 20:44 maybe stone helm of telepathy is on the table as a wish 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:123683 (1 day, 1:06:06) 20:44 I am extremely surprised to learn that I haven't damaged my alignment even once 20:45 convict combined with draugr gets a ton of free passes I guess 20:46 Donno how to avoid abusing alignment. 20:46 I think I try my best to avoid that but the leader still demand me to return the shirt this game. 20:47 Maybe you'll get a helm of telepathy from a player monster. 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Dra Fem Cha), 3931 points, T:2299, killed by an elven watchman, while attempting to cheat Death 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:34877 (2:46:04) 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34880 (2:46:07) 20:59 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.1] 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:35489 (2:47:13) 21:00 Heh great no asking for return. 21:01 yep I still have a perfect alignment record :) 21:01 I am just very happy with this turn of events to be honest with you 21:03 yippee 2 magic lamps at izchak's 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Mal Cha) stole 6750 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Izchak's lighting store, on T:36626 (2:49:59) 21:03 You theif! 21:03 the shirt just makes it so easy 21:03 like taking candy from a baby 21:04 I will use those wishes later, gonna take a break for soup 21:04 SOUP 21:04 what kind of soup 21:05 sausage and kale and rice. sort of a weird soup but I like it 21:07 I think soup is my favorite type of food, to be honest 21:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:10 K2, I'd meant to ask 21:10 Where does the portal generate on the first floor of the wiztower branch 21:11 so I can mark where it lets out on that map 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:124782 (1 day, 1:38:06) 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:124796 (1 day, 1:39:30) 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:125079 (1 day, 1:43:32) 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:125099 (1 day, 1:44:32) 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:125101 (1 day, 1:44:42) 21:23 Wooops wth so many demons. 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:17642 (4:26:00) 21:36 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 132100 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Gweebarra's second-hand bookstore, on T:21253 (3:56:35) 21:40 Umbire, coordinate 01,01 21:41 Coolio 21:41 now I just need to figure out the portal level 21:41 mostly describing the level it's set in, the tower itself and the marked enemies are set 21:42 * K2 nods 21:42 going to bed, gnite o/ 21:42 -!- rld has joined #evilhack 21:42 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v rld] by ChanServ 21:44 Oh snap bridge's back 21:44 yz K2 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:126489 (1 day, 2:06:56) 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:126490 (1 day, 2:07:00) 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:126964 (1 day, 2:14:17) 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:19219 (4:51:01) 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:127486 (1 day, 2:23:35) 22:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22916 (4:53:03) 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 216060 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Matray's jewelers, on T:24086 (5:10:44) 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 3600 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kilmihil's rare books, on T:24395 (5:17:33) 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:129744 (1 day, 3:19:18) 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 1080 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Lechaim's hardware store, on T:24540 (5:18:41) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 29535 points, T:18343, killed by a leocrotta 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:129825 (1 day, 3:22:32) 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:129826 (1 day, 3:22:33) 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 3600 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Akranes' general store, on T:25034 (5:23:04) 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Dra Mal Cha) stole 3000 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Pameunpeuk's delicatessen, on T:25202 (5:24:13) 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:129910 (1 day, 3:25:19) 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 3382081 points, T:130034, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 23:08 Oooops. 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:31552 (20:25:52) 23:22 <@loggers_viii> xdminsy nooooo D: 23:23 I'm so bad at this game :( 23:25 well we all know that isn't true! tough break with the salamander :( 23:27 i used to be terrified of them until Loggers taught me that they are not a fan of bugles (they have no MR at all) 23:34 Ah yes, they are easy to scare, I didn't notice they grabbed me lol.