00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonbane", on T:106501 (23:13:18) 00:24 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 00:27 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Client Quit] 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:107910 (23:43:50) 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:108439 (23:56:09) 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:108575 (1 day, 0:00:50) 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 oilskin toque", on T:108681 (1 day, 0:05:47) 01:04 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 02:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/b6647b5a26cb...76c5939adbcf 02:43 [EvilHack] k21971 76c5939 - Draugr can't revive from being stoned. 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una), 4964 points, T:4334, killed by the Goblin King, while attempting to cheat Death 02:49 that's you right sloppyfirsts? 02:49 yes. 02:50 pretty much all of the bugs you noticed from the beginning have been fixed 02:51 up late, eh? 02:51 yeah, shouldnt be 02:51 but here we are :) 02:51 odd experience, too with last game. seems I was revived — it showed max HP go back up to full, then said I died? 02:51 !lastgame 02:51 seems HP should stay at 0/zero if not revived? 02:51 K2: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Merrywidow/evilhack/dumplog/1716582195.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1716578563.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1716579146.evil.html 02:52 I was only revived once. I know odds are 1-3 at char gen 02:52 yeah you have a point 02:52 hp should be 0 02:53 so, i can now dive into water "freely?" 02:53 technically yeah 02:53 oh i see 02:53 was jumping out immediately a bug/or oversight? 02:53 i see what you mean 02:54 not a bug, more of an oversight 02:54 by "freely" I mean there will still be turbulence and you need to drop rustables, etc, 02:54 lemme check a thing 02:55 with all of this swimming, plus upcoming underwater adventure, might be interesting to introduce Slash'EM's gauntlets of swimming. 02:55 ok so breathless and magical breathing are two different things. the routine that checks that when you step into a pool doesnt check for breathless 02:55 in S'EM I always considered them useless, in Evil they could be semi-useful. 02:55 and it didnt need to, in vanilla nethack, no role/race is breathless 02:55 so, oversight 02:56 gauntlets of swimming? hah. why not make flippers instead 02:56 to go with goggles, yah~! 02:56 i still have my set of flippers when i used to scuba dive, they;re huge. could go really fast 02:57 but having said that - sea dragon scales impart swimming 02:57 and the ultra rare artifact The Snorkel of ____enter name here____. 02:59 heh 03:00 this should be an easy fix 03:00 even being sleepy :) 03:00 just thought gauntlets of swimming because they already exist. Thought it might be an easy add, instead of trying top create something. may be wrong, though 03:00 cool cool 03:00 oh it'd be easy to add probably 03:00 but a lot of times I prefer to make my own thing 03:01 i look forward to taking 1,000 turns (with turbulence) to get the Magic Key with a draugr. ha. 03:07 draugr barbarian test game: 03:07 You fall into the water. You sink like a rock. Your two-handed sword rusts! But you aren't drowning. You touch bottom. 03:07 i wonder why breathless isnt taken into account in vanilla. Amphibious and Breathless check a lot of the same conditions 03:09 so that's fixed, but there are several other places where Breathless should be taken into account 03:09 bleh 03:12 good that part is fixed 03:12 you mean like gelatinous cubes and others? 03:13 fixing the other bits too 03:13 yeah 03:13 you'll see here in a couple min 03:15 hah I found a devteam comment, /* [what about Breathless?] */ 03:22 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/76c5939adbcf...32aebb7dbd2f 03:22 [EvilHack] k21971 32aebb7 - Fix: being breathless not taken into account in several scenarios. 03:23 ^ fix is live, if currently playing as a draugr, save/reload 03:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una) averted death (killed by a gnome lady), on T:3304 (0:37:24) 03:31 hit points being full when life saving fails, happens in vanilla nethack too. and probably many if not all of the other variants 03:32 k2, congrats on the release and gj (including the hot fixes ofc) 03:33 thanks 03:33 and i just found another bug looking into the hit point thing 03:36 oh boy, good thing i caught this one 03:36 did you fix the guilty on monk btw? 03:36 otherwise would have pissed off of non undead players counting on the ir "oLS 03:36 cbus yes 03:36 ah k 03:36 gj 03:36 had an errant ! 03:37 nonliving(youmonst.data) was expressed as !nonliving(youmonst.data) 03:37 oops 03:40 found a second minor bug same time, same scenario 03:40 heh 03:41 should mummies be peaceful to draugr? 03:42 an undead . . . friendship? 03:42 sloppyfirsts, ahh now I know your game nick :P 03:42 (was observing draugrs) 03:43 so, you are watching me struggle with my damned Hecubus that put on a ring of invisibility. . . =( 03:43 sloppyfirsts, there's a good chance all undead can spawn peaceful to draugr 03:43 its a chance though, not always 03:43 zombies seemed to make sense.... just wanted to make certain 03:43 I remember the issue with hobbit pickpockets 03:43 that was fixed too in this release 03:44 another interesting thing with draugr: a pet puts on a ring of invisiblity w/o see invisible.... oh wow... Sucksville. 03:45 why can;t you #loot a spot if you KNOW they are there? 03:45 if something exists, it seems it should? 03:46 so, you could end up with a possible peaceful Arch-Lich . . . !? 03:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/32aebb7dbd2f...6a5ec3283032 03:48 [EvilHack] k21971 6a5ec32 - Fix: some bugs with various life saving conditions. 03:49 ^ that's live. if playing, you'll want to save/reload 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:5724 (1:01:40) 03:50 ok bedtime for me 03:50 gnite o/ 03:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:5885 (1:03:14) 03:56 gn! 03:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una), 5020 points, T:6384, killed by an orcish arrow, while attempting to cheat Death 04:21 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:59 thanks K2 for the fixes! 05:10 "Mmmm! Rotten food!" 05:10 nice 05:28 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 05:29 staying fed is even more of a challenge with half-eaten corpses turning into zombies all the time 05:30 also, I assume a tainted corpse will still have 0 nutritional value, but perhaps it should have some value for draugr? 05:32 ah, a bunch of rothes! 05:39 heh "Loggers, killed by a crossbow bolt, while attempting to cheat Death" 05:39 my first draugr bones! 05:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a plains centaur), on T:3157 (1:27:27) 05:41 lol I'm going to die here too 05:41 that plains centaur with Loggers 2-handed sword is just too fast 05:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a plains centaur), on T:3160 (1:28:57) 05:42 mobileuser, how hard are they? 05:42 btw 05:42 just curious since you have a good grasp of difficulty :) 05:42 hi! 05:42 Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack 05:43 what do you mean by "they", draugr or plains centaurs? 05:43 draugr 05:43 compared to other races 05:43 mixed 05:43 I guess it is a bit earcly to tell :D 05:43 yeah early days :-) 05:44 the requirement for corpses + no telepathy is certainly tough 05:44 otoh, I have already died twice and still live :-) 05:45 that plains centaur is finally down 07:08 not sure that being breathless, I can safely keep eating while satiated 07:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5508 (2:15:53) 08:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5755 (2:20:14) 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2351 (0:29:01) 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3462 (0:39:37) 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3466 (0:39:40) 08:28 orctown... not so bad for a draugr perhaps 08:31 interesting, can't tame a kitten with a fortune cookie, so why did I start with one 08:32 that reinforces the idea that draugr needs an alternative starting pet 08:39 I suspect it will be a challenge for a draugr to do sokoban without dying from hunger 08:39 let's find out... 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3159 (0:15:16) 08:49 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3365 (0:15:57) 08:50 Just got a wish while playing as a draugr. What to wish for? 08:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:51 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased dragonhide magic marker", on T:3377 (0:18:50) 08:52 only thing I could think of, since I have no shops to price ID with 08:55 Dragonhide. Good choice. :) 08:58 why not a dragonhide cloak of magic resistance nabru? 09:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:8535 (3:10:37) 09:31 <@nabru> Yep, good idea too 09:42 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [BRB]] 10:20 not sure that being breathless, I can safely keep eating while satiated <--- you can. breathless means you cant choke 10:20 so stuff your face 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bag called bag 1 containing 20 items on an altar, on T:4930 (0:43:17) 10:34 Only 6 hours of sleep? You should sleep more. 10:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:41 nah i was up over an hour ago 10:41 because i have to update unnethack *again* 10:42 and the fun part is we don't even know if it really helps :-| 10:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6579 (0:57:57) 10:45 one way to find out :) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8260 (1:21:38) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 14391 points, T:6736, killed by a Green-elf 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 33 points, T:61, killed by a scroll of earth 12:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:07 so stuff your face <-- thanks, good to know! 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10970 (1:44:58) 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Vita Fidelia, her faithful warhorse, on T:37571 (1 day, 0:03:53) 12:15 stuffed my face with a giant mimic and a yeti 12:19 Is pacifist vegetarian draugr possible? 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3121 (0:22:11) 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3331 (0:23:40) 12:22 I don't know yet if draugr can drink fruit juice 12:22 I mean, there are foodless strats 12:23 lets check 12:23 yup its fine 12:24 Is pacifist vegetarian draugr possible? <--- technically yes 12:24 i tried starting with that dragur thing yesterday but it didn't work... loving the damn glyphs though, k2!!! :) 12:24 what didnt work? 12:24 i kept starting as elf. maybe it was me 12:24 curse smode? 12:24 *curses 12:25 i don't care 12:25 yeah 12:25 yeah that's fixed 12:25 oh cool; 12:25 next game you'll be able to select Z for draugr 12:25 !who 12:25 K2: [hdf-us] telegarn [evil] tinklebear [evil] nabru [evil] dbanethacker [evil] splungetoo [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:26 mobileuser what role are you playing as draugr? 12:26 monk 12:26 cool 12:26 how is it so far? 12:26 congrats on the game, btw 12:26 thx 12:26 died twice already :-) 12:26 brb 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:5823 (0:29:54) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a snake), on T:5973 (0:31:04) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a giant cockroach), on T:5977 (0:31:10) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha), 7533 points, T:5984, killed by a giant leech, while attempting to cheat Death 12:38 damn nabru you had 3 revives 12:44 nethackwiki now has some sparse info about draugr, mainly race/role combos and price matrix with shopkeepers 12:44 more will come 12:47 K2: yep 12:47 I pretty much painted myself in a corner 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13634 (2:19:12) 12:48 :/ 12:48 3 though, that's lucky 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 50750 points, T:13674, killed by a spotted jelly 12:49 oh sweet 12:49 sewage levels can be difficult 12:49 NOW i'm gonna play this fucking game 12:49 remind me if you can freeze sewage 12:49 i just had two markers 12:49 wtf 12:49 i wish i had the patience 12:49 take a turn.... think... take another turn 12:50 aosdict yes you can 12:50 and then you have the people on the other extreme that want it to be an action game 12:51 i truly feel like i fall in the middle somewhere but yeah i do play intoxicated. .. that sucked 12:52 you're already drunk? 12:55 yeah. k2 that's what i meant 12:55 It turns into ice like normal p. sure 12:55 i'm already drunk 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:109987 (1 day, 0:29:21) 12:59 @malorpower going to drag you over to this discord for a minute :P 13:00 are you finally going to give evilhack a serious try? 13:01 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:01 yo! 13:01 ab 13:01 ab! 13:01 sup playa 13:01 it's draugr time 13:01 <@malorpower> I really need to honestly. I've gotten used to winning about 75% of my games though, so I have to gird my loins for 0% 🙂 13:01 \o/ 13:01 <@malorpower> Also, I only played a bunch lately due to the new dnh/ndnh/nndnh options. 13:01 <@malorpower> When I get time to seriously play *nethack again, I will finally let Evilhack claim some malor scalps 🙂 13:02 cool :) 13:02 lemme know when you start, and check this discord, people here are helpful 13:02 <@malorpower> I was hoping to ramp slowly into Evilhack hard-level by playing Hackem (slightly easier) first, but Hackem is now abondoneware so I don't see myself doing that. 13:02 is there like a changelog update rhingy? 13:02 @malorpower start with something like a centaur barbarian/valkyrie 13:03 that's generally easier than most 13:03 rebatela yeah 13:03 also see - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/1d00gi8/evilhack_084_initial_release/ 13:03 sweet tx ! 13:04 Loggers_VIII what role are you going to try with draugr first? 13:04 I mean, draugr's are part of my normal life so i need no introdution, but just for newer players 13:04 K2 I was playing barb yesterday but now that the menu thing got fixed I can play convict so convict 13:04 hah nice 13:04 <@malorpower> speaking of evilhack -> what does this mean "[hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha), 7533 points, T:5984, killed by a giant leech, while attempting to cheat Death" 13:04 <@malorpower> The death message part? 13:05 Draugr have inherent ability to revive a limited amount of times 13:05 draugrs get up to 3 revives per game, that was nabru using one of his 13:05 @malorpower, draugr are a zombie player race, and like other zombos, they can revive 13:05 they can't wear life saving, though 13:05 that reddit link I just posted, read that 13:05 well, they can it just won't do anything 13:05 "while attempting to cheat Death" typically means you died the same turn your life was saved 13:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:05 in the case of draugr it means you didn't revive 13:06 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a jackal), on T:721 (0:04:17) 13:06 playable draugr became a thing... just this week actually 13:07 so still time to get in on the ground floor if you want malor :B 13:08 ok gonna do some yard work, back later 13:09 later o/ 13:09 later 13:10 logs we should try and get the wiz tower article up this weekend 13:10 <@malorpower> I'll play if you give me a race that *always* life saves 🙂 13:10 <@malorpower> jk, I wouldn't want that. 13:10 <@malorpower> jk, I do 🙂 13:10 <@malorpower> seriously though Evilhack is just such a different mind set, I am not sure I can handle it. 13:10 sure, I can draw up some of the maps today umbire 13:12 be more confident malor! if I can beat evilhack you certainly can 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dra Fem Cha), 790 points, T:2277, killed by a wand, while attempting to cheat Death 13:12 random bugbear in gtown had a striking wand :( 13:13 I'll start work on the wiztower stuff 13:13 if you want a race that always life-saves, play in explore mode 13:14 oh I forgot, the wiztower had another minor update recently 13:14 in this version the first floor got changed 13:16 Yeah 13:16 no more barb stuck in a tree :[ 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] hanran24 (Inf Dra Mal Una) averted death (killed by a rock gnome), on T:1462 (0:11:54) 13:17 buncha lava and fire stuff too 13:26 umbire should we include the unique portal level that leads to the wizard's tower 13:27 probably 13:27 yeah it's not actually part of the tower anymore but I think it's worth including 13:28 this first level is complicated. very action-packed 13:53 Oh K2, if you're doing giant Healer, will you also be giving giants a weight reduction for the giant hunks of meat 13:53 or no 13:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:14 ] "while attempting to cheat Death" typically means you died the same turn your life was saved 14:14 wait. ;what? 14:15 no spells is a hard pass for me., but i don't know what to read about it other than non-existant comments in source code i guess? 14:15 read the reddit post that k2 linked 14:17 oh sweet i missed it 14:17 i DID check reddit last night/this morningj 14:17 ty 14:21 and it's from 17h ago, so it's not like i missed something 14:22 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:23 Hi all - I see that 0.84 of Evilhack was released - congratulations to all who made that happen! Is there a list somewhere of the changes / fixes / additions that were made? 14:23 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/1d00gi8/evilhack_084_initial_release/ 14:24 evilhack article on wiki as well 14:24 awesome thanks! 14:24 it's just unless i was dreaming, we were playing it before any of that.. 14:24 thanks umby! 14:25 @e?draugr 14:25 draugr ~3~ drider (s) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 15 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 1d4 bite drain str, 0d0 spit webs | Align: -15 | genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, poisonous 14:25 i don't hang out here. I don't play dungeons and dragons. I dont' know what a fucking dramgur is off the top of my head 14:25 Pino needs to be updated 14:26 Ditto - thanks for that pointer to 0.84 ! 14:26 it's kind of funny though. LIke draugr should just be common knowledge 14:26 I don't think anyone is implying that 14:27 well, I am a LOSER than! I feel like i'm the only one who doesn't know all about it 14:29 I had the players handbook v2 i think and then the monstrous compendium which was like $100 or something and that was a LOT of money in 1988 14:30 !setmitc 500 14:30 !setmintc 500 14:30 rebatela: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for rebatela set to 500 14:32 K2: regarding Sunsword/Hammer of the Gods - it's being hit specifically that stops draugr revival, right? 14:32 No interactions from dying while something's wielding either? 14:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:44 Also, feels "obvious", but did you make sure to account for disintegration preventing revival? 14:44 (answer whenever you get back) 14:49 @h?draugr 14:49 draugr (Z) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: cold | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d4 bite drain int | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, stalker 14:49 is it the same as that? 14:49 No 14:51 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Draugr_(starting_race) 14:51 Still working on it, but that's most of the critical stuff for the moment 15:00 lol those int/wis/cha caps 15:02 can draugr be weak for longer before fainting? 15:05 Yes 15:05 he wrote it as "similar to convicts" so that's my inclination 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4474 points, T:3987, killed by a dwarf zombie 15:15 dbanethacker, I know you complained about my manjaro 15:15 I am installing arch tomorrow 15:15 :P 15:15 manjaro? 15:15 wasnt it you? :) 15:15 but it was years back 15:15 Hmmm, not sure. What's a manjaro ? 15:15 linux dist? 15:16 or am I mixing up ppl? 15:16 if so, sorry :) 15:16 I don't think it was me. 15:16 loggers then! 15:16 np - it was probably Loggers then! 15:16 jinx! 15:16 :D 15:16 I am reinstalling my system (manjaro is a linux dist) 15:16 since I got new storage disks 15:16 Ok, I hadn't googled it before asking (d'oh!) 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Dra Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:11015 (4:04:32) 15:21 \o/ 15:22 last time I was too lazy to install arch which is what I wanted :) 15:30 You da man now! 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:815 (0:06:57) 15:36 ancient pseudodragon called Psuzy 15:36 this must be orctown bones 15:36 fortune cookie to the rescue 15:36 Love the message when a Draugr from eating what would otherwise be unpalatable - Mmmm! Rotten food! 15:37 =D 15:37 ghouls, vampires, draugr 15:38 I feel like I gotta brainstorm an undead race/role of my own now 15:38 :B 15:38 heheh 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 126729 points, T:36542, killed by an elder minotaur 15:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:44 lich, skeleton, mummy are the remaining undead 15:44 also ghost and shade 15:44 spectre 15:45 oh that's not a vanilla monster 15:48 Hey, neat - I swapped places with another zombie instead of fighting it. 15:48 there will be a lot of peaceful zombies 15:48 chat to the hostile ones! 15:49 mystery - where is splungetoo's ghost and where did his loot go... 15:51 lol if I try to kill an orc for saccing it just turns into a zombie 15:52 Oh K2, if you're doing giant Healer, will you also be giving giants a weight reduction for the giant hunks of meat <--- nope 15:52 Thought not 15:54 doh good catch about disintegration 15:54 (reading backscroll) 15:54 bleh i'm so outta shape. i'm exhausted 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Bar Dra Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3074 (0:30:13) 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:41931 (1 day, 3:44:49) 15:55 the lower part of our back yard is where we set up a bunch of raised garden beds, i cant mow down there with the lawn tractor, gotta use a push mower. the grass was almost thigh high and thick 15:55 's what I'm here for :3 15:55 had to mow it twice today 15:55 What else normally stops a zombie reviving... 15:55 ah found splungetoo's grave 15:55 i think that's it 15:55 so the sunsword/hotg bit: 15:55 I have the article I made open again, so if there's any corrections et. al. you want me to make now's the time 15:56 (I can also do it later I'll just grumble a little) 15:56 you know how they can do a critical hit? I made a special case for them vs draugr 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41956 (1 day, 3:46:00) 15:56 if the player wields sunsword or hotg, zombie corpse wont revive, i didnt want to get that stupid with it the other way around 15:56 Not sure if it's a feature of a Draugr, but I'm in Gollum's cave and can see the bats that are out of my normal eyesight / range. Not a problem, just wondering if it's a new feature? 15:56 Yeah so you just improved the odds of a crit 15:57 yes 15:57 I'm pretty sure that's just infravision? 15:57 dbanethacker, draugr have infravision, just like other zombies do 15:57 Ok, so it's normal then. Good to know. 15:57 i still have to mow the rest of the yard :/ 15:58 but the rest of it is on the lawn tractor so yay 16:00 adding disintegration handling for draugr wont be difficult. i'll wait til later tonight to knock it out 16:02 Copy. 16:02 Angelslayer accounted for, still have to sit and really parse the price matrix changes for gnomish/nymph shopkeeps... 16:02