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04:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Con Dro Fem Cha), 17 points, T:494, killed by a jackal
05:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Bar Gia Fem Neu), 2798 points, T:3510, killed by a rock gnome, while praying
05:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Con Dro Fem Cha), 21 points, T:284, killed by a sewer rat
05:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Con Dro Fem Cha), 15 points, T:87, killed by a grid bug
05:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 386 points, T:1141, killed by hitting himself in the face
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07:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:567 (0:05:28)
07:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 276 points, T:1000, killed by a wand, while moving through the air
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09:07 <mobileuser> evilhack 0.8.4 hdf release day \o/
09:10 <mobileuser> and a new ice trap that can take away your cold resistance?
09:10 <mobileuser> how did I miss that, pretty nasty
09:11 <cbus> \o/
09:11 <cbus> mobileuser, may the rng be with you
09:11 <cbus> and I might observe :P
09:12 <mobileuser> heh it's not released yet, but I'm hoping it will be before it's bedtime for me :-P
09:13 <cbus> yeah read that it will be released today :)
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10:20 <K2> yeah that's the plan
10:30 <mobileuser> \o/
10:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a stone quarterstaff entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:20799 (3:38:53)
10:36 * cbus pours a whisky for k2 
10:36 <K2> :P
10:36 <cbus> maybe too early in your timezone (4:30 pm here) :)
10:41 <K2> its never too early
10:41 <K2> 10:41 here
10:41 <K2> am
10:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22028 (3:49:58)
10:48 <Pinkbeast> Simply carry a portable yardarm which can be adjusted such that the Sun is always over it
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11:47 <NetSysFire> wait ice trap that can take cold res away?!
11:49 <Umbire> Yeah, I think from UnNetHack?
11:49 <Umbire> With some bells
11:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a mithril shield of mobility entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:30254 (12:33:19)
12:05 <bouquet_> gonna need to know the text of that trap so I can make a stop message. I'll totally miss that otherwise.
12:05 <Umbire> @d?Oracle
12:06 <Umbire> !tell K2 Pinoclone died again
12:06 <Hecubus> K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire.
12:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:40240 (16:50:43)
12:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:40873 (17:03:57)
12:53 <K2> ok
12:53 <Hecubus> K2: Message from Umbire at 2024-05-24 12:06 EDT: Pinoclone died again
12:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 804557 points, T:41997, killed by a barbed devil
12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 79 points, T:209, killed by a water demon
12:57 <K2> :(
12:57 <K2> @e?oracle
12:57 <Hecubus> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis
12:57 <Noisytoot> why not make them give cold vulnerability instead of taking cold res away?
12:58 <K2> not as dangerous
12:58 <Umbire> @?Oracle
12:58 <Hecubus> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 0 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 0d4 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis
12:58 <Umbire> @d?Oracle
12:58 <Hecubus> Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 0 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: Nat 0/Dodge 0/Prot 10 | Atk: 0d4 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis, seeinvis
12:58 <K2> also for players who have inate cold res, they do get cold vuln instead
12:58 <K2> *innate
12:59 <Umbire> thanks k2
12:59 <K2> o/
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13:01 <K2> alrighty. about to leave for an appointment, when i get back, release time
13:05 <K2> bbl
13:09 <bouquet_> @e?vampire lord
13:09 <Hecubus> No such monster.
13:09 <bouquet_> @e?vampire
13:09 <Hecubus> vampire (V) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 1 | Atk: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 bite level drain | Align: -8 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
13:12 <bouquet_> Is master branch updated with the new wizard stuff?
13:12 <bouquet_> going to be offline this weekend so I can test locally
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2389 (0:19:20)
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13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] MrCool (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 389 points, T:1761, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food
13:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4377 (0:44:36)
13:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Erithrecta (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4255 points, T:3591, killed by a chameleon imitating an earth elemental
13:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25218 (4:41:28)
14:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6367 points, T:5861, poisoned by a bone orcish arrow
14:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Erithrecta (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 477 points, T:653, killed by the Goblin King
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14:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Erithrecta (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 2459 points, T:2815, burned by molten lava
14:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1021 points, T:1361, killed by a baby owlbear
14:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:228 (0:02:16)
14:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1317 (0:09:21)
14:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Erithrecta (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1177 points, T:2871, killed by a gold crossbow bolt of fire
14:52 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f6b54bd8c367...53ddb0ba92c9
14:52 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 53ddb0b - Make sure Draugr monk class gift isn't a spellbook.
15:11 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus
15:11 -!- copper.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25
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15:11 <K2> ooof
15:11 <K2> yeah i forgot about that
15:11 <K2> oh well
15:11 <K2> will address
15:12 <K2> !who
15:12 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] dbanethacker [evil] omghax [evil] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players
15:12 <K2> !whereis omghax
15:12 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] omghax [evil]: (Mon Trt Mal Law) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1
15:13 <mobileuser> omg.... hax!
15:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] omghax (Mon Trt Mal Law), 0 points, T:51, killed by a newt
15:13 <K2> ^ 0.8.4
15:13 <mobileuser> \o/
15:13 <cbus> k2, call it a challenge
15:13 <Umbire> Neat
15:13 <cbus> :P
15:13 <cbus> intentional
15:13 <botifico> [EvilBot] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilBot/compare/1c8ae9fea2e1...47e6b8e277fd
15:13 <botifico> [EvilBot] k21971 47e6b8e - Support for new version of EvilHack (0.8.4).
15:14 <K2> hdf-eu next
15:14 <cbus> jg!
15:14 <cbus> gj
15:14 <mobileuser> job good!
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] omghax (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a falling object), on T:10 (0:00:18)
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] omghax (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a falling object), on T:17 (0:00:28)
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] omghax (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 0 points, T:22, killed by a falling object, while attempting to cheat Death
15:23 <K2> hdf-au
15:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the Goblin King), on T:2030 (0:05:42)
15:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2031 (0:05:45)
15:26 <cbus> k2, you realize how fucked the menu will be if there will be a notnotnotdNetHack? :P
15:27 <cbus> need to move an entire column!
15:27 <mobileuser> there already is
15:27 <mobileuser> oh
15:27 <rld> <@nabru> (not)²dNetHack
15:27 <rld> <@nabru> for different values of 2
15:27 <mobileuser> I see what you did there :-)
15:27 <cbus> 1+1=3 for large values of 1
15:28 <cbus> is notnotdnethack = ndnh0515v2 ?
15:28 <Noisytoot> ndnh0515v2 = notdnethack, nndnh0515 = notnotdnethack
15:28 <mobileuser> e) EvilHack 0.8.4
15:28 <mobileuser> woohoo!!
15:28 <Noisytoot> v2 because there was a 2023.05.15 release last year
15:28 <cbus> do it! let me watch :D
15:29 <cbus> I am trying to out whats new in notnotdnethack
15:29 <Noisytoot> https://codeberg.org/noisytoot/notnotdnethack/src/branch/2024.05.15/changelog-nndnh.txt
15:29 <bhaak> I rater wait for xnordnethack
15:29 <mobileuser> nice, starting with eggs only
15:30 <rld> <@nabru> NordHack, sponsored by NordVPN
15:32 <cbus> I havent played notdnethack
15:32 <cbus> so that log sais nothing
15:32 <cbus> I need to know whats different to vanilla
15:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] omghax (Pri Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:11, killed by a sewer rat
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15:33 <Loggers_VIII> FUCK YEAHHHHH NEW EVIL VERSION \o/
15:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1397 points, T:1904, killed by a mountain dwarf
15:33 -!- K2 changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> k2 you can't be draugr convict since both draugr and drow need to be selected with 'D'
15:34 <K2> no
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> I assume that's for any role that can be draugr and drow
15:34 <K2> Z
15:34 <Noisytoot> ndnh also has a changelog but it's quite outdated. The wiki is more up-to-date probably. dnh doesn't even have a changelog except the commit log, but there's lots of (somewhat out-of-date) information on the wiki.
15:34 <K2> Z is draugr
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a dwarven watch captain), on T:2865 (0:13:20)
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (caught herself in her own magical blast), on T:2868 (0:13:28)
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> it says D in the menu
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Dra Fem Cha), 2518 points, T:2870, killed by a dwarven watch captain, while attempting to cheat Death
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> and pressing Z doesn't do anything (this is for convict)
15:34 <Noisytoot> maybe it's different for curses and tty?
15:35 <K2> Loggers_VIII, exit dgl
15:35 <K2> and reload
15:35 <Noisytoot> actually patchlevel.h in dnh has some comments describing the changes for each version
15:35 <K2> you started a 0.8.3 game again
15:35 <K2> i think
15:35 <K2> gdammit lemme check curses
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think I did, draugr is still in the menu, it's just under D
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> and I can start draugr barb since barbs can't be drow
15:36 <mobileuser> I could start a draugr monk game loggers
15:36 <K2> yup you're right
15:36 * K2 sigh
15:36 <K2> i gotta leave in 4 min
15:38 <Loggers_VIII> mobileuser you don't use curses right?
15:38 <mobileuser> right, just tty
15:38 <K2> yeah its just a curses issue
15:39 <Loggers_VIII> I'll just do barb for now then
15:39 <cbus> you cant select race first in curses either (but you never could in evil I think)
15:39 <cbus> (and dnethack, just double checked cause I have it locally)
15:39 <mobileuser> "You feel guilty.  This newt corpse tastes terrible!"
15:39 <mobileuser> heheh
15:40 <mobileuser> it should taste delicious!
15:40 <K2> ok i gotta go, will fix later
15:40 <K2> have fun all!
15:40 <mobileuser> thx!
15:40 <Noisytoot> port the acehack menu
15:40 <mobileuser> later!
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15:42 <mobileuser> "I don't do business with zombies!"
15:42 <Loggers_VIII> later k2!
15:42 <cbus> later
15:42 <mobileuser> omg this shop has a water feature in the middle
15:42 <mobileuser> 3x3 water
15:43 <Loggers_VIII> heh good point mobileuser, since draugr like corpses the same as ghouls, they shouldn't find them nasty
15:43 <Loggers_VIII> I've had shops like that with lava
15:43 <mobileuser> high class shops
15:46 <Loggers_VIII> ahhh menuglyphs are so nice
15:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3880 (0:06:13)
15:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a Green-elf), on T:3908 (0:06:21)
15:55 <Loggers_VIII> gnoll hunter on the first mines level :(
15:56 <Umbire> class mongen moment
15:56 <Loggers_VIII> I should grab cleaver or something before I go down there
15:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:6986 (0:12:15)
15:59 <mobileuser> cleaver grabbed!
15:59 <Loggers_VIII> hell yeah
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 2659 points, T:7557, killed by a gnoll hunter, while attempting to cheat Death
16:00 <Loggers_VIII> lol it did not matter
16:00 <Loggers_VIII> @e?gnoll hunter
16:00 <Hecubus> gnoll hunter (h) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 1d4 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis
16:00 <Loggers_VIII> damn that's a lot of damage
16:01 <Loggers_VIII> hm, menuglyphs don't take into account obj material
16:01 <Loggers_VIII> would be neat if they did
16:02 <Loggers_VIII> yani: if a draugr bites a tree it can turn into a dead tree
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> I think lichen corpses will be pretty nice for draugr
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> as emergency permafood
16:07 <Loggers_VIII> man check this bigass shop I can't buy anything from :( https://ibb.co/NTzHxpC
16:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Bar Dra Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:976 (0:10:00)
16:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 105897 points, T:25821, quit
16:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3136 (1:01:30)
16:16 <mobileuser> Loggers_VIII I am assuming draugr can't eat lichen?
16:16 <mobileuser> hmm I don't think I have eaten any brains yet...
16:17 <mobileuser> have you Loggers_VIII ?
16:18 <mobileuser> it's sort of still possible to steal from shops with a pet, but it's slow going
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16:18 <sloppyfirsts> seems odd that draugr would start with a living cat or dog pet
16:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Bar Dra Fem Cha), 1472 points, T:1710, killed by a giant leech, while attempting to cheat Death
16:20 <Umbire> It's eggs and meaty corpses only, p. sure?
16:20 <mobileuser> my draugr likes this ambulent weapon
16:21 <mobileuser> * ambulant
16:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Merrywidow (Inf Dra Fem Una) averted death (killed by a wooden crossbow bolt), on T:1081 (0:05:31)
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16:31 <sloppyfirsts> OK. Huh? a dwarf that was killed by a pet and I never even touched it (and was live 3 or 4 paces away): "The dwarf zombie rises from the dead!" Is this seriously intended? Why the heck would that happen?
16:31 <sloppyfirsts> next turn: pet dead.
16:32 <Umbire> K2 ^
16:32 <Umbire> Whenever you get back
16:33 <sloppyfirsts> ^ "and was -like- 3 or 4 paces away"
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16:36 <sloppyfirsts> rotten corpses make a draugr faint?   also seems to make no sense? they should THRIVE of a of rotten food!
16:37 <sloppyfirsts> heal a little HP, maybe, even?
16:37 <sloppyfirsts> ^THRIVE off of rotten food
16:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] MrCool (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1366 points, T:2478, killed by a rock piercer, while frozen by a monster's gaze
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16:53 <terrapin> the pet kill zombies are definitely a bug. kinda thematic, though?
16:54 <terrapin> pets get the zombie virus on their fur from being pet by draugr and it ends up on the corpses or something
16:55 <sloppyfirsts> i was thinking the liquid flow thing, similar to Night of the Living Dead.
16:55 <sloppyfirsts> aura
16:55 <sloppyfirsts> not sure why the living would consort with the undead anyhow
16:55 <sloppyfirsts> even in undeath a pet is loyal?
16:56 <sloppyfirsts> seems if I _became_ undead, it  should at least be a housecat and a dog, or some random level of growth?
16:57 <Noisytoot> <Loggers_VIII> hm, menuglyphs don't take into account obj material
16:57 <Noisytoot> do they not match the glyphs shown on the map?
16:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6843 (1:44:21)
17:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13638 points, T:7030, killed by a hill orc called Zagor of Baneaakha, while sleeping
17:04 <mobileuser> Interesting, Rouffiac the orcish shopkeeper gave me entrance to his shop
17:05 <sloppyfirsts> perhaps due to being chaotic?
17:06 <mobileuser> yeah perhaps...
17:06 <Umbire> that's probably it
17:06 <Umbire> doubt it's intended in this case though
17:06 <mobileuser> still charging ridiculous prices :-)
17:07 <mobileuser> "I don't do business with zombies!"
17:07 <mobileuser> aha
17:07 <Umbire> lol
17:07 <mobileuser> I think I maybe tricked the shopkeeper
17:07 <mobileuser> with an invis cloak, let's try that again
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> mobileuser: my brain eating attack is working
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> sometimes makes guys sick too
17:08 <mobileuser> nope, isn't fooled twice
17:09 <mobileuser> Loggers_VIII maybe it only triggers when wielding a weapon?
17:09 <Loggers_VIII> also yeah you can only eat meaty corpses D:
17:10 <mobileuser> can you try bare handed Loggers_VIII?
17:10 <Loggers_VIII> yep
17:11 <Loggers_VIII> worked bare handed
17:12 <Umbire> Chance to occur similar to illithid tentacle attack, I wager
17:13 <Loggers_VIII> it might be something to do with monks, but I doubt it
17:13 <mobileuser> thx for checking!
17:13 <Loggers_VIII> no problem
17:13 <mobileuser> maybe I am killing them too quickly
17:15 <Loggers_VIII> that's possible - the bite goes at the end of your attack routine I think
17:16 <Loggers_VIII> terrapin do you know if the bite is protected from activating against cockatrices and stuff?
17:16 <Umbire> I imagine it'd have the same protection as illithids
17:16 <sloppyfirsts> I've attacked numerous times and have only seen bite a few times, so definitely not illithid-chance amount
17:16 <Loggers_VIII> I don't even know if illithids are protected
17:17 * Umbire shrugs
17:17 <Loggers_VIII> I feel like there was a semi-recent debacle about that
17:17 <Loggers_VIII> debate, not debacle
17:18 <Loggers_VIII> the illithid tentacle attack is fairly uncommon too
17:18 <Loggers_VIII> sloppyfirsts what's your username on hdf? is it merrywidow?
17:19 <sloppyfirsts> yes
17:19 <sloppyfirsts> i play a lot of illithids and find tentacle/brain eating attack to be faily common
17:19 <sloppyfirsts> ^fairly
17:20 <Loggers_VIII> I haven't played ith in a while so I'm prolly underestimating how often it happens
17:20 <sloppyfirsts> illithids are protected from cockatrice attacks
17:20 <mobileuser> Loggers_VIII https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Suppression_of_auxiliary_attacks
17:21 <mobileuser> I assume that all applies to draugrs too (unless there are bugs)
17:21 <Umbire> And K2 just pushed this so there's probably bugs
17:22 <Loggers_VIII> several bugs have been discovered already yeah :p
17:22 <mobileuser> the first time I played demon infidel I died after stinging a cockatrice ;-)
17:24 <Loggers_VIII> I still sort of disagree with polyforms not suppressing dangerous attacks but that's a lot more preventable of course
17:24 <Loggers_VIII> and it would be weird to be a monster like a dragon and be unable to attack a cockatrice. so maybe I agree with it actually
17:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:2608 (0:17:39)
17:34 <sloppyfirsts> also, zombie pets are fairly useless. they still move 1 step every 2 - 20 turns. unless you get a magic whistle, maybe.  they could also just be meat shields, I guess.
17:34 <sloppyfirsts> also they will not equip themselves
17:35 <sloppyfirsts> once you can get an ettin or giant zombie army going, it could be fun
17:36 <Loggers_VIII> yeah they are stupid and slow
17:37 <Loggers_VIII> but if they hit something it usually dies, at least!
17:37 <sloppyfirsts> yeah, could be good for shopkeepers or priests.
17:39 <Loggers_VIII> "the mithril tsurugi welds itself to your claws!" damn, just spent a million years forging this :(
17:39 <sloppyfirsts> hostile zombies still say "BRAAAAAAAAINS . . ."     I ain't gots any?
17:39 <Loggers_VIII> they still want em!
17:40 <Umbire> you didn't curse-check at any point?
17:40 <mobileuser> You bite the gnome lord. The gnome lord looks rather ill. \o/
17:41 <Loggers_VIII> umbire no I don't have an altar
17:41 <Loggers_VIII> oops now set's pissed
17:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by the wrath of Set), on T:4040 (0:33:05)
17:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by the wrath of Set), on T:4040 (0:33:05)
17:41 <Umbire> skill issue perchance
17:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 4586 points, T:4044, killed by the wrath of Set, while attempting to cheat Death
17:41 <Umbire> :B
17:41 <Umbire> !lastgame
17:41 <Hecubus> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1716580835.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1716578563.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/o/omghax/evilhack/dumplog/1716579146.evil.html
17:42 <mobileuser> those damn corpses keep rising as zombies before I have to a chance to eat them :-P
17:43 <Loggers_VIII> perchance :p
17:44 <sloppyfirsts> if breathless why "Pheew!" crawl out of the water as a draugr?
17:44 <Loggers_VIII> mobileuser chat to them! get a zombie army!
17:45 <sloppyfirsts> even weirder, killed a jellyfish, as an infidel, and saw the corpse. tried kicking it, to make certain it was shallow water. I sunk into water. did clairvoyance kick in RIGHT AFTER i killed the jellyfish?!?
17:46 <Umbire> That's from the narrator
17:46 <Loggers_VIII> probably sloppyfirsts
17:47 <sloppyfirsts> so, even though draugr are breathless they cannot go into water?
17:47 <sloppyfirsts> do I need gauntlets of swimming? X-P
17:49 <mobileuser> yeah if breathless you should be fine in the water
17:49 <Noisytoot> K2: I think "But wait...  Suddenly, you start to revive!" would be better wording than "But then suddenly, you start to revive!"
17:49 <sloppyfirsts> Loggers_VIII  clairvoyance the turn immediately after killing?  what are the odds?  kicking at something does not clear the '%'? just ctrl-U or #removemarkers?
17:49 <sloppyfirsts> but you cannot go into water.  you crawl out
17:50 <Loggers_VIII> sloppyfirsts: I don't get what you're asking. was the tile that the corpse was on deep water?
17:50 <sloppyfirsts> yes
17:50 <Loggers_VIII> sounds like it was just clairvoyance then. I don't know if you can clear the %
17:51 <Loggers_VIII> you can check with #terrain in the future, though
17:51 <sloppyfirsts> or even ctrl-u with infidel/clairvoyance to be sure
17:51 <Loggers_VIII> I think the not swimming thing when breathless thing might be vanilla. that's weird
17:51 <sloppyfirsts> the AoY clairvoyance has screwed me on a few occassions with infidels.
17:52 <sloppyfirsts> especially with flying pets.
17:52 <Noisytoot> sloppyfirsts: why not enable paranoid water?
17:52 <sloppyfirsts> but you can swim with other breatless characters?
17:52 <Loggers_VIII> eh, can you?
17:52 <mobileuser> checking the wiki...
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17:52 <Umbire> You can move on the seafloor while breathless 
17:52 <sloppyfirsts> Noisytoot feels like cheating?   how is that . . . Evil?  :-D
17:52 <Umbire> So ideally draugr should be able to do the same
17:53 <Umbire> key word "ideally"
17:53 <sloppyfirsts> should be able to.  but they crawl out immediately.
17:53 <mobileuser> "Breathlessnesss, also known as magical breathing, is a property in NetHack that allows a monster to breathe in any environment even if it would ordinarily be lethal, and also makes them amphibious, allowing for underwater travel."
17:53 <Noisytoot> sloppyfirsts: paranoid water isn't cheating
17:53 <sloppyfirsts> maybe a balance thing. or, oversight
17:54 <Umbire> In any case I think it'd be easier to just open issues about it and/or wait until K2 is actually online again
17:54 <sloppyfirsts> sure, sure. indeed.
17:54 <Loggers_VIII> yes it is draugr specific, I tested as a gargoyle in vanilla
17:54 <mobileuser> but you only tried to enter the water by kicking sloppyfirsts?
17:54 <mobileuser> oh
17:54 <sloppyfirsts> no.
17:54 <sloppyfirsts> also entering by moving
17:55 <mobileuser> Loggers just confirmed
17:55 <mobileuser> sounds like a bug
17:56 <mobileuser> bedtime for me, have fun all! :-)
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17:57 <Loggers_VIII> yep just double-confirmed in evil, gargoyle player can go in water when draugr player can't
18:08 <Loggers_VIII> huh, draugr have an extra point of innate AC? just noticed that
18:08 <sloppyfirsts> hardened, leathery skin?
18:09 <Loggers_VIII> @e?human zombie
18:09 <Hecubus> human zombie (Z) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 4 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d8 claw drain con, 1d2 bite drain int | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, stalker
18:09 <Loggers_VIII> I guess
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a mountain dwarf), on T:996 (0:04:44)
18:18 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez pushed 2 commits to fix_pet_inheriting_hero_zombifying [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/1d4f11a73b13^...67a304d68920
18:18 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez 1d4f11a - Fix: pets inherited the hero's ability to zombify
18:18 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez 67a304d - Fix: if statement syntax typo
18:18 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez created branch fix_pet_inheriting_hero_zombifying - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack
18:19 <Loggers_VIII> I wish I had some mithril forge ingredients to make a mithril tsurugi
18:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an Uruk-hai), on T:2712 (0:15:01)
18:21 <Loggers_VIII> just walking down a hallway and got like a dozen uruk-hai dumped on my head!
18:23 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #176: Fix: pets inherited the hero's ability to zombify - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/176
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Bar Dra Mal Cha), 4141 points, T:3599, killed by a crossbow bolt, while attempting to cheat Death
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18:36 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez pushed 2 commits to fix_pet_inheriting_hero_zombifying [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/67a304d68920...96f4df0271fd
18:36 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez f59f2bd - Update xkill_flags comment
18:36 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez 96f4df0 - Fix: don't break pacifist when pets kill a monster
18:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:103025 (22:11:50)
19:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:47343 (9:07:25)
19:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:49030 (9:16:31)
19:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:49127 (9:18:50)
19:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:49468 (9:21:39)
19:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:50881 (9:28:37)
19:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:51706 (9:32:40)
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19:35 <K2> hi
19:35 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
19:35 <Umbire> wb
19:35 <K2> reading backscroll
19:36 <K2> real bugs are found after release
19:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 357514 points, T:54170, quit
19:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased amulet of magic resistance", on T:106335 (23:08:04)
19:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2106 (0:13:49)
20:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:4922 (0:33:57)
20:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7657 points, T:6067, killed by an orc-captain, while fainted from lack of food
20:35 <botifico> [EvilHack] entrez opened pull request #177: Another crack at the zombie-making issue - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/177
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21:12 <K2> [backscroll] draugr bite attack wont fire off against the usual bad things: footrice, black dragons, pestillence, etc
21:13 <Umbire> Thought so
21:14 -!- K2 changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.4 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/1d00gi8
21:14 <K2> https://redd.it/1d00gi8 <--- 0.8.4 announcement
21:46 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 5 commits to master [+0/-0/±14] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/53ddb0ba92c9...382f1ecd4b0f
21:46 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 382f1ec - Merge pull request #177 from entrez/fix_mon_zombie_makers
21:59 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/382f1ecd4b0f...9de0736d5802
22:00 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 9de0736 - Fix: curses initial race selection
22:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:5633 (0:59:14)
22:17 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9de0736d5802...b6647b5a26cb
22:17 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 b6647b5 - Fix: Draugr Monks feeling guilty eating meat, other feedback fixes.
22:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6335 (1:15:30)
22:19 <K2> !who
22:19 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] mightyquinn [evil] tinklebear [evil] GGhana2 [evil] splungetoo [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players
22:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2672 (0:26:29)
22:24 <K2> all of these new commits are live now
22:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] GGhana2 (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1327 (0:10:15)
22:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] GGhana2 (Kni Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (rust monsters), on T:1374 (0:12:44)
22:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] GGhana2 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 1142 points, T:1570, killed by Mr. Tefenni; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
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22:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 12702 points, T:5916, killed by a soldier ant
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23:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4372 (0:37:29)
23:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4755 (0:40:44)
23:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:31967 (20:22:42)
23:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5793 points, T:6502, poisoned by a gray fungus, while frozen by a potion