00:00 Uncle Benjen. I see 00:01 ty, k2 00:01 o/ 00:02 might as well do this next thing, since I've finally worked out the right command... 00:02 @e? draugr 00:02 draugr ~3~ drider (s) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 15 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 1d4 bite drain str, 0d0 spit webs | Align: -15 | genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, poisonous 00:03 er, maybe not :D 00:03 its not live yet 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:45368 (9:11:04) 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:45371 (9:11:11) 00:03 pinobot wont get an update for a bit 00:03 i see. gotcha 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1215 points, T:3177, killed by an orcish arrow 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) refused to give up The Tsurugi of Muramasa to Lord Sato, on T:45874 (9:15:23) 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Lord Sato, on T:45920 (9:16:21) 00:09 in my defense he was being totally not cool 00:14 tough competition in the Most Tediously Annoying Quest Leader category 00:17 wishlist quest leaders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafhrd#Ningauble_and_Sheelba 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1199 points, T:1984, killed by a homunculus, while praying 00:28 I'll have to check those books out 00:31 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9831dcd0fef4...c0410a6a92c6 00:31 [EvilHack] k21971 c0410a6 - Draugr as Infidel and crowning. 00:33 !tell cbus feel free to start play-testing draugr race if you haven't already 00:33 cbus shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 00:35 bedtime for me gnite o/ 00:40 -!- theJesusLizard has joined #evilhack 00:42 so, draugr player but yet not vampire. odd. 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 337 points, T:648, killed by a mountain dwarf 00:53 gnight, K2. (or gmorning, as the case may be) 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6562 (0:45:57) 01:00 I didn't read any Fritz Leiber back when Gary Gygax kept telling us to read him 01:01 I waited fifty years, so I could become a consumate burnout first 01:02 Probably the correct decision, in retrospect 01:03 sometimes instinct pays off 01:05 -!- theJesusLizard has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:09 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9578 points, T:7033, killed by a death ray 01:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1526 points, T:2518, poisoned by a rotted goblin corpse 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:46951 (1 day, 5:49:23) 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:47058 (1 day, 5:53:46) 01:59 k2, cool might give it a try, dont promise anything but might~! 01:59 cbus: Message from K2 at 2024-05-21 00:33 EDT: feel free to start play-testing draugr race if you haven't already 02:00 also gj 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1206 (0:37:55) 02:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:19 ah, is it the silent bit 02:19 mobileuser: Message from Noisytoot at 2024-05-20 19:56 EDT: you can't chat when polymorphed into something silent. breathlessness is irrelevant 02:20 yeah, the zombies still manage to say "BRAINS" without breath :-) 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1886 (0:56:40) 02:28 !tell K2 little spelling mistake in pray.c: "briefly flares with an eldrtich glow" 02:28 No worries, mobileuser, I've got this! 02:42 how does the draugr revive work? :P 02:42 just died twice to goblin king :P 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2997 (1:11:03) 02:46 it should at least revive you once 02:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10178 (2:19:23) 02:47 one to three times 02:50 but when odes it stop? :P 02:50 tried finding in source but "too lazy" 02:52 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/2ca337e989ed882aee8771e753cc9b24c5aaf0f4 02:53 cheers 02:53 I was thinking that I couldnt ressurect because my stats were too low 02:53 but apparently it is just random? 02:56 the number of times you can revive is set at the start of the game 02:59 yeah thats what I got from the commit 02:59 it was just not what expected from when playing the game 03:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3219 (1:24:31) 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:12612 (2:55:49) 03:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:4559 (1:52:29) 03:31 oh that's a new one, someone polymorphed the scare monster scroll I was standing on 03:32 usually it gets burned by a red dragon or something :-) 03:35 haha 03:35 funny 03:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:62199 (1 day, 5:35:51) 03:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Koeranen (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 34714 points, T:15796, killed by a baby gray dragon called Pilli 05:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:63135 (1 day, 6:20:22) 05:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:63137 (1 day, 6:21:32) 05:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:63138 (1 day, 6:21:39) 05:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:63138 (1 day, 6:21:46) 05:05 -!- mariari has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.2] 05:11 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 05:16 marker at Vecna! 06:10 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:63610 (1 day, 6:40:08) 07:32 bleh 07:32 K2: Message from mobileuser at 2024-05-21 02:28 EDT: little spelling mistake in pray.c: "briefly flares with an eldrtich glow" 07:32 thanks 07:32 fixed 07:32 blame mobileuser 07:33 naturally 07:37 :P 07:39 today is shopkeeper/priest interaction with draugr 07:41 oh? will that be different for draugr? 07:41 yeah. kinda along the lines of convict 07:42 that's the idea 07:42 priests get mad and shopkeepers bar entrance? 07:43 basically. co-aligned/unaligned (moloch) priests will stay peaceful i think 07:43 but shopkeepers will treat draugr like they would any other zombie 07:44 ouch 07:44 for all the nerfs and dings, remember you get 1-3 free extra lives :P 07:44 that's huge. YUGE 07:45 brb 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:16217 (3:21:20) 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16620 (3:24:15) 08:08 alrighty 08:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:64136 (1 day, 7:12:38) 09:06 oof, right into a yeenoghu bones level 09:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:64263 (1 day, 7:22:32) 09:08 Bouquet 09:11 back to the castle, didn't have any taming scrolls on me 09:12 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:23 Bouquet_ the spectre could probably one-shot me with the Tsurugi of Muramasa 09:23 that would not be funny 09:31 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #evilhack 09:31 -!- VaderFLAG is now known as Guest4566 09:31 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 09:35 -!- Guest4566 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 116 points, T:550, killed by a hobgoblin 10:19 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:26 bouquet the spectre, you managed to blow up your bag of holding dammit 10:26 lol 10:26 there goes all the loot 10:28 oooh 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 976 points, T:3623, killed by a rothe 10:29 sorry bouquet, I see you put the BoH into your oilskin sack first 10:29 mobileuser, sup 10:29 you tried any draugr? 10:30 too busy with my priest game :-) 10:30 fair enough :D 10:30 I'll let you find the bugs first :-P 10:30 I suck aot evil 10:30 :P 10:30 also I have low play drive, so dont play that much 10:43 about to push another commit 10:43 just testing 10:44 its a combo commit, deals with draugr and priests, shopkeepers and the watch, as well as some food and pet tweaks 10:44 and a couple bug fixes (priests going from peaceful to hostile werent having their peaceful underline designator removed) 10:46 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:55 one thing i cant seem to find, it where the alignment penalty comes from for killing the minetown watch 10:55 guard sees convict, gets angry. convict kills guard, takes an alignment hit, but not as bad as other roles 10:56 i made it so the watch gets angry at seeing a draugr (zombies! attack!), but when a draugr kills the watch, it's a massive align penalty 10:56 basically the same as non-convicts 10:56 maybe if i talk about it enough, it'll come to me 10:58 aaah found it 11:03 gj k2 11:03 i kept looking in mon.c but makemon.c is where it's at 11:04 avoid minetown, noted :-) 11:05 well not necessarily 11:05 :-P 11:05 i'm making it so being draugr, you actually get a slight align bump killing angry guards 11:05 same as infidel 11:05 and coaligned/unaligned priests will tolerate you (stay peaceful) 11:06 shopkeepers wont attack, they just ban you from entering, like a convict 11:06 but first you will need to become strong enough to actually kill the guard 11:06 just like convict 11:06 not as hard as you think as draugr 11:06 all you need is one bite to the head 11:06 let nature run its course 11:07 "it's just a flesh wound" 11:07 hah 11:07 nice that it gains alignment! 11:07 A giant watchman yells: "Another zombie! Attack!" You see angry guards approaching! 11:08 heh 11:08 you scream "BRAAAINS" 11:10 do you still get amnesia as draugr if a mind flayer sucks your brain? 11:10 The human priestess of Crom intones: "Begone, foul abomination!" "You desecrate this holy Sanctum!" 11:10 mobileuser no, you dont really have much of a brain 11:10 by Crom :O 11:10 ah good 11:11 because of that, you cant get intrinsic esp 11:11 outside extrinsic sources still work 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6024 (0:49:23) 11:22 (bbl) 11:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:28 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±9] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c0410a6a92c6...6633883dced2 11:28 [EvilHack] k21971 6633883 - Draugr and various interactions with NPC's. 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed King Arthur, on T:48713 (1 day, 7:16:04) 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1317 (0:09:13) 11:39 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/6633883dced2...817e2c6c72f3 11:39 [EvilHack] k21971 817e2c6 - Draugr can regenerate hit points while in the Valley of the Dead. 11:41 close to being done with this race i think 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:9241 (1:19:49) 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:20060 (3:49:15) 11:57 draugr monk? how's that sound? 11:57 world of warcraft have undead monks i think 11:58 undead anything, right? in death as in life 11:58 kk 11:58 oh yeah - no draugr shopkeepers or priests. i might allow draugr player monsters 12:01 !who 12:01 cbus: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] tinklebear [evil] rebatela [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10981 (1:34:19) 12:05 Can monster undead or players poly'd into undead regenerate hit points in the votd? Can monster undead even regenerate at all (they can't in dnh but I think they can in vanilla)? 12:06 Is a draugr polymorphed into something else still undead? 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:11945 (1:47:07) 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Inf Cen Mal Una), 426 points, T:528, killed by Gollum 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12560 (1:54:27) 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12791 (1:56:16) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:13709 (2:08:23) 12:43 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14928 (2:19:07) 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:48093 (9:43:14) 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:25912 (5:21:08) 13:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32 weeee 13:33 Noisytoot 1) yes 2) probably as they have the MH_UNDEAD flag assigned 13:34 side effect of that - if a draugr tried to poly into any kind of undead monster, they stay draugr because of the flag 13:34 *tries 13:34 not ideal but that can stand for now 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:25378 (10:36:14) 13:49 I don't know if it's intended, but it's funny that intelligent pets will use a wand of wishing for themselves :-) 13:50 They even try to recharge a 1:0 wand (it blows up of course) 14:08 yup :P 14:09 if you were a pet, and your owner gave you a wand of wishing, would you just sit there and not use it? I think not :P 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:51215 (10:27:49) 14:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 431 points, T:783, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:17 heheh 14:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 315 points, T:796, killed by a small mimic 14:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 75 points, T:302, killed by a falling rock 14:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:866 (0:04:51) 14:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1416 points, T:1094, killed by a vampire in bat form 14:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 45 points, T:153, killed by a falling rock 14:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:48 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:48 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/817e2c6c72f3...4349ecb8f708 14:48 [EvilHack] k21971 4349ecb - More role-specific bits for Draugr. 14:48 ^ monk 14:56 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:13519 (4:44:25) 14:57 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:59 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4349ecb8f708...e5730c1e9926 14:59 [EvilHack] k21971 e5730c1 - Ensure unique undead monsters are appropriately hostile towards Draugr. 14:59 almost got some freebies there :P 15:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:13836 (4:53:33) 15:08 naaaaaaaaaaaaa...wooden ring of free action burnt away 15:08 amazed i noticed 15:08 well f me sideways 15:09 why didny you fooproof it? 15:09 *didnt 15:10 honestly didnt even think about it. but also, have no appropriate scrolls 15:12 in a bad joke, two jewelry stores with about 30 rings between them -- no duplicate 15:14 so who are in the competion for the first draugr on hdf? :P 15:14 mobile and xdminsy ? :) 15:14 logger? 15:14 maybe rebatela since monk is open now 15:15 there's giant healer too 15:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:65568 (1 day, 9:12:08) 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) genocided vampire mages, on T:65577 (1 day, 9:13:04) 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:65579 (1 day, 9:13:13) 15:22 Wow wow, cbus I think won't be me, I have very strict rule in choosing races and roles lol. 15:22 cubs you can try it too. 15:22 mobileuser will prob be first draugr infidel asc 15:23 unless VaderFLAG makes a surprise appearance and ascends all the things before anyone else :P 15:23 Indeed master infidel heh. 15:23 hehe 15:23 maybe.... :-) 15:23 no demon for you 15:23 NAY 15:23 or NAE 15:24 Maybe imanity comes and play a draugr and ascend as a master mind flayer :D 15:24 or maybe just NI 15:24 no matter if you wanna be the first draugr you can get first combos :D 15:24 for zscore 15:24 Shrigis, terrapin, krm26 etc etc 15:24 long list of candidates 15:24 oh lordy it wont be me 15:25 gonna be gone until the end of june prolly in any case 15:25 :( 15:25 europe trip? 15:25 appointment time bleh. bbl 15:28 I suddenly realize there's a thievery skill as a convict. 15:28 xdminsy, on rogue too 15:29 I think I should train it, I ignored it before. 15:29 yeah -- wife going vacation-mad 15:29 Yes, I wonder if it counts AC? 15:29 I think maybe I could steal from those bullwhip wielders or fullarmor player monsters. 15:30 Go krm26, enjoy it. 15:31 im a vacation-hater...i only like to travel with a purpose 15:32 Ah same, maybe more enjoying being at home. 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:65832 (1 day, 9:28:32) 15:41 since draugr infidel will have to rely on melee rather than spell casting, the Wand of Orcus perhaps becomes more interesting... 15:56 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 15:57 do you have to do something special to "unlock" draugr or is it just a special group of playtesters for now? 15:59 sloppyfirsts, build it 15:59 dont think it is on hdf 15:59 since there are still commits coming in all the time :) 16:01 work in progress 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:33053 (7:59:43) 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:54810 (1 day, 11:52:31) 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) had a stiletto entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:34577 (8:21:09) 16:24 that is what i thought; thanks. 16:40 cbus: zscore only considers role and draugr isn't a new role 16:42 time for yscore 16:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:66298 (1 day, 9:59:14) 16:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed eyes of the overworld", on T:66325 (1 day, 10:02:24) 16:46 nope 16:46 smoky wish, worth a try 16:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 410 points, T:2175, killed by a rothe 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:55092 (1 day, 12:26:20) 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 greased cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:55093 (1 day, 12:27:11) 16:51 greased but not fixed?! 16:52 can't fix scrolls :-) 16:52 srsly? how have i never known that 16:52 no wonder i have all these little baby goddamn scrolls running all over the house 16:52 would be so nice for scare monster... 16:55 Oh yes, there's no indestructible :D 16:55 are you running an illegal scroll farm krm26 16:55 I remember several days before I wield a spellbook of force bolt in xnethack and then a rust trap blanked it lol, that's so funny. 16:56 keystone kops have no authority in florida 16:56 ah florida. as you were! 16:56 mobileuser: are you sure that they can't be fireproofed? they definitely can in dnh 16:56 in evilhack they can't 16:57 Agreed, they can't in evilhack. 16:58 ... I just tested in dnh and they can't either, it's just that fireproof scrolls get generated naturally in some monster starting inventories 16:59 Vlad with fireproof cursed teleport scroll 17:00 hehehe. 17:00 Coool. 17:08 -!- sloppyfirsts has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:16 too bad a stapler isnt in the game 17:16 kathryn just staped the hell out of one of her fingers. went *all* the way in too 17:17 ah too bad sloppyfirsts left. coulda mentioned new release with all this new stuff will be live soon 17:19 -!- sloppyfirsts has joined #evilhack 17:19 and there they are 17:19 heya sloppyfirsts 17:20 sloppyfirsts, all this new stuff will be live soon. before June 17:20 (hoping this week) 17:20 so you are putting draugr before druid . . . :P 17:20 yeah 17:20 i know , i know 17:20 new race easier than new role 17:20 :P 17:20 race is probably easier than an entire role. 17:20 and this new race was on a whim 17:21 totally not planned 17:21 and before a wampire. vampire seems like the more likely choice. 17:21 I know what your stance on them are. 17:21 * K2 nods 17:21 it is intersting though. 17:22 plus it's fun to make something from scratch 17:22 (zombie rrace) 17:22 awlays wondering what it would be like to play 17:22 and wanted to get resurrected as a zombie with other races. 17:23 i'm still hoping someday someone is able to ascend if they died and arose as a zombie or spectre or whatever 17:23 has never happnened for me yet 17:23 odds must be miniscule? 17:23 it is low odds, yeah 17:23 ^minuscule 17:24 i knew what ya meant. i misspell shit all the time 17:24 and being slightly dyslexic does not help either. 17:25 just really excited to try druid. i hope (pray?) it is everything I think it could be 17:25 and then . . . maybe not. 17:25 I need not extra reasons to play Evil. 17:25 hah! 17:26 as soon as junethack is over, i'm getting busy on it 17:26 fyi, if you look in src/end.c around line 473 on, you can see the odds of arising as different undead 17:27 green slime has the best odds hah 17:27 interesting, you can play as green slime and turn the whole dungeon into green slimes? 17:28 in theory 17:28 Pets should be able to rise as zombies, if they are brained. 17:28 It would be Evil, too. 17:28 Think of ALL of the zombies it might make! 17:28 heh 17:29 so fun fact - as a draugr, say you kill a humanoid that can turn into a zombie. if you eat their brains and make them ill, they will turn into a zombie after death. you can #chat them and tame them 17:29 with a high chance they might just turn on you 17:29 an ARMY of zombies. 17:29 :) 17:29 would be cool if there was a way to control them somehow 17:30 I presume spellcasting would be a near impossibility? 17:31 yeah draugr cant cast spells 17:32 they should have some innate ability that are NOT spells. 17:32 fire blast, cold blast, 17:32 for only certain roles 17:32 starts of really weak 17:33 gains damage with levelling skill 17:33 their innate ability is to eat brains and make their target ill. guaranteed death if they dont have sick res 17:33 certain roles will NEVER learn it 17:33 heh sloppyfirsts you're describing psionic wave/illithid 17:34 no. Skyrim Dragur. 17:34 :"> 17:34 aaaah 17:34 Draugr 17:34 i never played skyrim 17:34 assumed they would have similar abilites in DnD. was going to look it up. 17:35 i see. I'm keeping draugr here as close to regular zombie as possible. nothing flashy 17:35 Is there draugr convict? 17:35 yes 17:36 Ah coool. 17:36 was just thinking what a draugr wizard would be. 17:36 the roles that draugr can be are barbarian, convict, knight, monk, infidel, rogue 17:36 oh, thought they were going to be all of them 17:36 nope 17:37 draugr can't be lawful or neutral starting out 17:37 so that shuts them out of certain roles 17:37 I actually tried a workaround for that but it got messy 17:37 didnt quite work 17:38 yes, a draugr makes no sense, but a player healer can be turned into a zombie. 17:38 yeah well 17:38 wish there were "anti"roles. 17:39 YANI: a player permanently turned into a zombie loses the ability to cast spells 17:39 makes sense. with draugr rules. 17:39 yup 17:39 also think zombies should have trouble opening doors. 17:40 i saw that was added to xnethack recently 17:40 i'm on the fence about that one 17:41 if they cant work their hands, they shouldnt be able to work their feet or legs either 17:41 just seems like an intelligent move. of which, zombies lack 17:41 well, in movies that just bash doors . . . ;-) 17:41 heh 17:42 so, if playing a draugr, you can only bash doors. 17:42 we're allowed a bit of creative license 17:42 "You start bashing the door!" 17:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:42 Heh I remember that there're typical zombies in chinese movies that they can only jump and two hands straight forward. 17:44 Fear should be built into a draugr role a bit. The higher your level, the higher then amount fear given to humanoids and intelligent creatures. "Ahhhh! Zombie!!!" 17:44 "The dwarf flees!" 17:44 Same fear we have as players, :) 17:44 :) 17:44 Oh there's a peace wood sword that are used often to fight zombies heh. 17:45 peach wood sword. 17:45 Like those afraid status in hackem or maybe from slashem? 17:47 Wood sword? Is that some pop culture/literature reference? Or a thing in Evil? 17:47 Cuz i know there *are* wood swords in Evil. 17:52 Chinese fantasy, use peach wood sword to fight zombies. 17:53 A special magical weapon in Taoism lol. 17:55 so, we need to to introduce wood type to Evil. . . X-P 17:57 Haha i'm just introducing some chinese folklores, see if somebody is interested in this :D 17:58 I remember the Monk Pantheon are about chinese gods. 17:59