00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8476 points, T:5693, killed by a mumak, while praying 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 618 points, T:1732, killed by a large spider 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:5493 (2:13:54) 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 10346 points, T:6254, withered away 01:10 -!- PhantomLumina has joined #evilhack 01:10 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8773 01:10 -!- Guest8773 has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 01:10 -!- PhantomLumina is now known as Umbire 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2870 (0:50:25) 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has removed her long sword from existence, on T:3833 (1:03:32) 01:31 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:33 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:34 -!- rld has joined #evilhack 01:34 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:48 -!- cbus_ is now known as cbus 02:48 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 02:48 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 05:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:13191 (5:12:17) 05:59 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:00 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #evilhack 06:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Venus, on T:33036 (6:40:40) 07:31 Oh oh cool I just write some simple playwright code to upload rcfile. 07:31 That helps. 07:31 hi 07:31 Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack 07:39 xdminsy, I have a string for you 07:39 oh nope 07:39 it copied from other chars 07:39 thought I had done it smarter 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of protection given to him by Mog, on T:39934 (15:37:33) 08:05 Oh what? 08:05 but I had the keys needed to copy the config from one account 08:05 but still needed manual upload for one :) 08:08 Ah yes, I want to upload automatically. 08:08 hmm 08:08 you can autologin to dgl like this 08:08 DGLAUTH=username:password ssh -o SendEnv=DGLAUTH nethack@eu.hardfought.org 08:09 "another part of the puzzle" 08:09 Yes I know that recently, that helps too. 08:12 I think I spottedi that on reddit or irc 08:12 (I didnt figure it out myself) :P 08:15 https://pastebin.com/jksvaEmU 08:16 Like this, I think maybe some simple request is enough but using headless browser seems convenient to simulate lol. 08:17 I wanted to use suse pastebin but seems it has no syntax hightlight now, why? 08:17 What's recommended pastebin now. 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Venus, on T:37194 (7:31:44) 08:19 I learn that from #hardfought before maybe, maybe you. 08:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Pri Trt Mal Neu) had a blessed steel helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Mog, on T:42227 (15:54:45) 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 116887 points, T:39294, petrified by a beholder 08:36 noooo 08:36 oooops. 08:36 snuck up while altar camping? 08:37 !lastgame 08:37 xdminsy: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1715962354.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1715953923.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nyri/evilhack/dumplog/1715830102.evil.html 08:38 Seems didn't notice that? 08:38 Sad. 08:40 ah the classic beholder in Ludios 08:41 bouquet died that way recently too 08:41 krm26 has a lizard corpse, maybe he moved too fast and ignored messages and status. 08:41 or he gambled 08:42 you can eat the lizard corpse, but then get hit with the gaze again 08:42 but Slow status, not much chance 08:43 Yes but I think he can eat it twice, the displacer beast will interrupt him eating. 08:45 agreed 08:54 yeah, i always make the same mistake, assume i have a second round -- since i was right next to the portal i dove through 08:54 kind of an interesting run, after all the stuff showered on me initially, never found a blindfold or towel, among other weirdnesses 08:54 no reflection 08:54 etc 08:54 was good timing, gotta run off to europe for a few weeks soon 08:55 I think rangers can crown and aquire longbow of diana for reflection? 08:57 longbow of diana is the quest artifact 08:59 (and you would still need to wield it) 09:00 Yes, I think it's a very great weapon, I like it in 3.7. 09:00 Does evilhack one add 1 multishot using this? 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:13616 (5:21:24) 09:01 Maybe no. 09:01 I don't think you get extra multishot 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 165 points, T:760, killed by dipping into a forge 09:21 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 694 points, T:757, zombified by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:147564 (1 day, 10:46:21) 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 143 points, T:543, killed by a crossbow bolt, while jumping around 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:172, killed by a dart, while sleeping 09:43 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:6239 (1:54:56) 09:50 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2077 (0:27:21) 10:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:11 making a draugr note for K2: perhaps revival should have a (big) chance to fail when on a graveyard level 10:15 The gelatinous cube is frozen by the gelatinous cube. 10:15 hahahah 10:21 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:21 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a large kobold, on T:8887 (2:41:18) 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1875 points, T:3142, killed by a giant cockroach 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 13826 points, T:8976, killed by a dwarf lady 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:602 (0:05:30) 10:41 xdminsy: I opened the ludios door and the beholder hit me with slow, then petrification. Good times. 10:42 Sad that's so dangerous. 10:43 sometimes (if i remember) i blind myself whenever entering a branch like that, or even going downstairs 10:44 not trying to be all "you should have done this" because I cannot stand that! and I'm the king of avoidable deaths. But sometimes there's nothing you can do 10:45 unluckily krm26 didn't have a blindfold or a towel 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 459 points, T:1000, killed by a rock gnome 10:46 but yeah, if you can, check with telepathy first 10:48 oh man i love when a zombie kills a shop keep. it used to happen WAY more before he adjusted some of the racial stuff 10:48 (saves ME the effort of whacking him) 10:48 but i guess i'll just kill the rest of minetown while i'm here... 10:49 Izchak not included obv 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1149 points, T:1064, killed by a giant ant 10:50 <@lordl567> Is the Oracle, like, greatly buffed? 10:50 <@lordl567> I tried killing them with a rubber chicken and was almost instakilled by ants, cause wounds and whatever 10:50 <@lordl567> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1241402496451084328/2024-05-18_17.46.52.png?ex=664a11ab&is=6648c02b&hm=263c467a5422f7b255110b5532b6e9f2288f7390ba256412e492b7f40d701dc3& 10:52 I'm the king of finding unusual ways to die 10:53 @lordl567 yes, the oracle does tons of damage, but is pretty soft. If you can get a pet to kill them then you'll be ok 10:53 I find that I can use my some +7 darts to build a lot fo +7 silver aklys, quite great. 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 866 points, T:1067, killed by a bear trap 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:30050 (4:45:21) 11:02 <@lordl567> it also summons tons of insects 11:02 Oracle was buffed with more spells and the ability to move 11:02 hell yeah 11:02 usually don't care about HoB but can't wear robe obviously 11:03 note to self: add Oracle description to the wiki page 11:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:30105 (4:48:26) 11:07 y'all talked me into it... 11:07 I took some decent damage though... 11:12 man, giant is hard. i don't know what i was thinking... 11:13 giant monk? 11:13 maybe not so much as samurai or like any other role when you can wear those crazy scales 11:13 yeah 11:13 ya, only samurai is allowed to wear the large scale mail 11:13 i've done them all before (neutral, chaotic, lawful) giant monks but 11:13 I love playing giant samurai. 11:14 i don't know wtf i was thinking. I kinda suck at the game these days lol 11:14 yeah but they can wear that armor 11:14 yeah. exactly 11:14 and i think you can wear that shit that tiamat or whatever drops 11:14 (but as a monk i'd never hit...) 11:14 i've gotten those scales a bunch of times lol 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] LordL (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 159 points, T:771, killed by a gnome lady 11:15 still fun though 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:153952 (1 day, 12:43:51) 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3343 (0:30:21) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1160 points, T:1853, killed by a dwarven watchman, while sleeping off a magical draught 11:29 I got the scales once, but not with Giant 11:30 YANI: collect 3 of each dragon scale variety to create giant-sized tiamat style cloak. 11:34 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 201 points, T:1234, killed by the Goblin King 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:155492 (1 day, 13:15:45) 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:155970 (1 day, 13:25:21) 12:07 -!- terracotta has joined #evilhack 12:09 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) averted death (suffocated by a sea dragon), on T:156284 (1 day, 13:38:58) 12:17 Weird, sea dragon can engulf regardless of slow digestion? 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:156387 (1 day, 13:42:40) 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:156389 (1 day, 13:42:46) 12:22 at 30k turns and i'm trying SO hard to not use the pickaxe, but i guarantee i smack something with it very shortly 12:22 cuz the worst thing is that even when i break the conduct i am still all OCD and typing w- w- constantly... 12:25 do boulders weigh more these days? I don't remember being this burdened before, but i haven't played GIA in a minute 12:26 i know way back in the day it was adjusted so you couldn't just carry 1000 of them or whatever, but has something changed recently? 12:26 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 12:28 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:28 i don't seem to be carrying all that much but i'm encumbered 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 9569 points, T:2786, poisoned by a gray fungus 12:29 50 boulders should be nothing, right? 12:29 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 12:31 ntm i have 21 con.. something isn't right 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:55112 (11:59:59) 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 179 points, T:558, killed by trying to drink molten lava 12:37 i do not like playing encumbered and am always telling newer players to not do it 12:37 it's easy to be lazy about it, but when you look at dumplogs? People are always "burdened" 12:40 It's one of those things that isn't obvious how much it's hurting you, and conversely it's hard to notice what being "fast" or "very fast' does, but it's HUGE 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 168 points, T:670, killed by an orcish dagger 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 316 points, T:689, zombified by a kobold zombie 12:51 i always have to wiki which one of these snakes can pull ya down... python or cobra? 12:51 python 12:52 oooooh snap and I just got to XL 14 naturally 12:55 that's a lot of killing 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35191 (5:54:04) 13:03 dammit and it's one of those dungeons that go straight Medusa>castle 13:04 i just heard 6 chugging sounds in a row 13:04 wtf 13:05 frat on level 13:05 lemme guess one of these soldier clowns got the WoW and wished up 9 potions of extra healing 3 times in a row or something stupid 13:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:08 lol @ frat on level 13:10 now i really need to put the axe away 13:10 and i'll end up hitting with the unihorn or something... 13:12 xdminsy sea dragon engulfing is a "strangling" attack, not a "digesting" attack, so slow digestion doesn't prevent it 13:12 i keep magical breathing amuelt in open inventory so i can switch to it if that happens 13:13 but as a giant i can't get engulfed at all right? 13:13 playing tortle at the moment, so I don't need to that (no magical breathing, but can breath water) 13:13 i still have the thing out 13:13 * to do 13:14 i polypile life saving/reflection etc. to get the magical breathing one (when I'm not playing giant) 13:14 cuz it's game over with one of those or even more comon, the water elemental will do the same thing 13:15 gel cube too 13:21 can i levelport out of the castle? I always forget... like cursed gain level pot or cursed tel scroll? 13:22 i know you can't teleport within the level obviously 13:22 man... if i'm gonna die i at least want to get out of here and leave y'all some bones 13:23 -!- bhaak has quit [Changing host] 13:23 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 13:23 levelporting is allowed in the castle 13:23 thanks! 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2249 points, T:1839, killed by a giant ant 13:23 i need to remember i have these boulders and start using them 13:23 just been so long since i've played giant 13:24 it's a HUGE advantage, but you have to remember! 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 236467 points, T:58579, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 13:30 oh man.. i'm gonna die to a giant centipede 13:30 those things are way out of depth 13:30 like they are OUT OF DEPTH FOR THE GAME 13:30 if you haven't died to one, you haven't played enough 13:30 and i'm not complaining, k2.. I think they are badass!! 13:31 I want to be one when I'm reincarnated 13:31 ooooo it's a 4.. i was warned 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Everdying (Tou Hob Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:14682 (5:44:51) 13:36 i'm pretty sure k2 tells a story about ACTUAL giant centipedes in Iraq... 13:36 I can't imagine man 13:37 these fucking dragons have drained my MaxHP by a solid 50 from the towers 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:159484 (1 day, 15:03:18) 13:40 "invisible rebatela's ghost".... no bones at the castle though right? 13:42 just a regular ghost 13:47 i'm seriously gonna run out of maxhp lol 13:48 i will bet the farm this wand is 0:1 13:50 oh snap 13:50 0:3 13:50 thank the lord i caught a break 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:159928 (1 day, 15:13:47) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +5 grayswandir", on T:36715 (6:34:02) 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:36909 (6:35:54) 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:160052 (1 day, 15:17:57) 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:160053 (1 day, 15:18:02) 13:55 gg xdminsy!!! 13:55 now i can relax a bit and watch your game! lol 13:56 lol I think I still need some time to ascend. 13:56 thanks :D 13:56 oh man... not trying to make ya nervous. take your time lol 13:56 I'm so pack rat and always be burdend. 13:56 well don't take offense to what i was saying 13:57 hhhh yes. 13:57 lots of people play that way. i don't know 13:58 i've been burdened this whole time. i just wanted to get the wand. i got super lucky and didn't get denied my 2nd artiwish . 13:58 Coool wish. 13:59 yeah well i could have gotten dragonbane from altar but fsometimes it takes forever 13:59 so i wished for them both and just got lucky 14:00 man these dragons or something was casting shit at me. i seriouslyt lost like 50-75 maxp and all my crap is "deteriorated" 14:00 i thought i knew repair armor but i guess i dont 14:00 it's all good 14:00 i need to mobileuser hat anyway 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +7 oilskin cloth elven helm named mobileuser gg xdminsy", on T:36914 (6:38:18) 14:02 hhhh +7 really. 14:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 dragonhide speed boots", on T:36916 (6:39:07) 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:160200 (1 day, 15:28:25) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:37082 (6:42:57) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed the elven high priest of Moloch, on T:160438 (1 day, 15:36:33) 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:160471 (1 day, 15:37:42) 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:160473 (1 day, 15:37:45) 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) averted death (killed by Lucifer), on T:160516 (1 day, 15:40:03) 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu) became permanently transformed into a spectre, on T:160517 (1 day, 15:40:14) 14:17 Oh no. 14:17 :{ 14:18 Cool damage, I think maybe it's because my fire resistance was removed. 14:18 rip 14:18 heh sad. 14:19 yeah i've only fought lucifer once. It seems hit or miss. like people have no problem or they just get smoked 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Neu), 3386890 points, T:160517, killed while stuck in creature form (with the Amulet) 14:19 My boulders was removed by maybe wand of striking. 14:19 it's so new (like to me at least) Did you play evil before? The lucifer thing is fairly new 14:19 And he removed 200 hp of me in one turn. 14:20 yeah that's nuts 14:20 I really don't know about Lucifer. 14:20 I can't understand his damage. 14:20 @e?Lucifer 14:21 I've ascended maybe 4 evilhack games before, still dunno much about Lucifer heh. 14:21 You play fast tho man.. I dig it!! I do the same 14:22 i think i overprepared or just got lucky with my one lucifer encounter 14:22 I don't remember how i kill Lucifer everytime. 14:23 i dunno how the f it's gonna go with this giant. i'm gonna try tho. i got lucky with the wishes so i should at least get there 14:23 I didn't expect that my boulder fort got removed. 14:23 yeah 14:23 sometimes even like orcus etc. will spawn with a wand of striking... 14:24 Lucifer isn't that bad until he gates in Graz'zt on the 2nd turn (true story) 14:26 I think I didn't prepare well didnt take out enough items.. 14:26 How to deal with his wand of striking? 14:26 I'm not sure, he hurt so hard I remember 200 hp in one turn :( 14:32 Pack a big pile of full healing or nurse tins. Demonbane or Hammer of the Gods can remove gating punishment. There's always the Strategy of Last Resort (paralysis) 14:33 This is the universal strategy: 1) Hit it. Too ouchy? 2) Rock fort! Can't kill it? 3) Paralyze! 14:33 I see, i'd be more careful next time. 14:33 :{ 14:34 the frustration of dying when you can taste the ascension if what the game is all about! better luck next time 14:34 !lastgame xdminsy 14:34 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/dumplog/1715323533.evil.html 14:35 oh man -- were you burdened fighting him? 14:35 No, but my main problem I think is that I'm always near burdend :( 14:35 So I didn't take enough escape items out. 14:36 Also, it can make a big difference to swap out that ring of slow digestion when you are fighting someone tough for +5 damage (or accuracy if you sometimes miss) 14:36 Only need slow digestion for the boring inbetween-tough-opponents bits 14:37 Yes I see, I should replace that. 14:37 why didnt you boulder fort and silver aklys? did he have striking? 14:37 I used boulder fort and he zaps striking. 14:37 then, zap him with cancelation a few times and re-boulder-fort 14:37 But I think if I take out some paralysis or more scrolls of earth :{ 14:37 That could be enough. 14:38 Yes I should do that. 14:38 So, can giants just no longer cast level 6 spells at all? I am XL 15 and helm of brilliance currently Wiz 19 and polymorph is 100% fail 14:38 the only other comment i'll make is, for the ascension run, you are carrying a LOT of useless crap in your bag 14:38 rebatela, use a staff of (spellschool) 14:38 yeah i'm gonna have to 14:39 there is no reason to be carrying more than one wand of secret door detection, and probably no reason to be carrying ANY damage wands, or create monster, and all the duplicate rings -- 14:39 but it's annoying that things keep changing.. I mean, the vanilla stuff i've gotten changed is beyond laughable. i'll just stop playing the game if you that's the point 14:39 all that stuff belongs ignored in the magic chest 14:39 what changed, rebatela? 14:39 <@loggers_viii> rip xdminsy :( 14:39 i didnt think anything about giants had changed in the last year or two 14:39 sleep spell became level 2. Also monks can't start with sleep 14:40 ahhh, sleep! yeah 14:40 and markers have like 20 charges 14:40 markers can have 90! it depends 14:40 because i was scumming during the tournament 14:40 nope 14:40 i had a 90 marker just last week 14:40 oh, are you talking vanilla? 14:40 i don't vanilla 14:40 they said anything goes during the tournament 14:40 <@loggers_viii> I promise you that the marker change was not because of your scumming :p 14:40 so i scummed 14:40 and they changed the whole fucking game 14:40 vanilla 14:40 i feel bad 14:40 for everyone else 14:40 yeah, ive vanillaed enough for one lifetime 14:41 hhhh loggers. 14:41 but someone really doesn't like me 14:41 sleep change is great though 14:41 I just start new drow convict. 14:41 i've never seen an "emergency" change 14:41 but they changed the entire fucking game. You can't start with sleep and if you get a marker it has like 20 chaRGES 14:41 ... 14:41 just tell me not to play. don't change the whole game 14:41 i'm clearly missing something. 14:41 ii'm sorry but that's bullshit 14:42 I think it's able to ascend like 3 or 5 drow convicts in a streak. 14:42 you're upset because vanilla made a change for junethack? 14:42 xdminsy, any streak of anything is impressive! 14:42 i'm not upset 14:42 But I think I can't do that:{ 14:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:42 i'm too lazy to streak, i like to dork around for interesting starts 14:42 i feel bad that i got the entire game changed because i was start scumming during the tournament when it was all but encouraged 14:43 how did your start scumming get the entire game changed? sorry if im being dense 14:43 Yes, mobileuser can do streak so easily. 14:43 it didn't 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4509 (1:19:30) 14:43 mobileuser can do anything easily :-) 14:44 The following information pertains to an upcoming version (NetHack 3.7.0). If this version is now released, please verify that it is still accurate, then update the page to incorporate this information. 14:44 As of commit d452242a, Monks can no longer start with sleep. Instead they can start with confuse monster. 14:44 As of commit 9d910773, Monks start with a 25% chance of a magic marker (19–23 charges) and 7.5% chance of an oil lamp. 14:44 heh it's near junethack. 14:44 Intrinsics 14:44 man i forgot that monks can start with markers in vanilla. that is bonkers! 14:44 100% because i was scumming for sleep and a marker during the tournament 14:44 not anymore 14:44 some tool who can't ascend if you did it for them had it changed 14:44 Not sure, maybe you can check the commit date and message. 14:45 it's on there 14:45 i dont see that it has a profound effect on monks really 14:45 those commits were nearly 2 years apart 14:45 yeah looks like loggers 14:45 oh here we go... 14:45 anyway, which tournament are you talking about? 14:45 what happens in the top 10 levels of the dungeon doesnt really massively influence the rest of the run...it can be easy or a slog, but once you're to the midgame you're to the midgame 14:45 the same people cry and get the rules changed 14:46 you are literally making up imaginary issues to be mad at 14:46 ok 14:46 funny you just came out of the woodwork 14:46 Indeed I think vanilla is somewhat simple and didn't care too much about these changes. 14:46 I think when I play vanilla, I just ignore a lot of items. 14:47 i can only (barely) hold one variant in my mind at a time, so i've passed over vanilla for evilhack :-) 14:47 yes I've been lurking the chat this whole time for no reason! the second I saw you start randomly complaining I joined! you got me 14:47 Like scrolls of earth, ring of increase damage, magical breathing, I never use them in vanilla. 14:48 yeah almost all variants significantly de-trivialize the vanilla endgame, that's for sure 14:48 I miss the vanilla +7 Grayswandir and kill everything in melee:D 14:48 but the vanilla endgame isn't trivial at all when you're doing it for the first time :-) 14:48 Soooo mindless. 14:48 the only hard part of vanilla endgame is astral I'd say 14:49 though of course it's hard when you do it for the first time as krm26 says 14:49 having the patience for the plane of water 14:49 awful in all versions :-) 14:49 I sometimes die on astral in vanilla because I underestimate it 14:49 I started a xnh game yesterday but my another mistake arose and died. 14:49 I underestimate evilhack bosses often. 14:50 you don't full understand a boss until it has killed you 14:50 I've died in vanilla astral maybe only once :D. 14:51 I can't understand why they can do that high damage when I have -50 AC. 14:51 Surprise me everytime :{ 14:52 well, sorry you're upset, rebatela 14:52 lol i'm not upset in the least 14:52 Oh oh the lichen give 7 point of expierence, I think I know that but forgot. 14:52 but to pretend that they didn't change that shit because of me start scumming is just ridiculous 14:53 it's probably a good thing. If anything, I exposed it 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:875 (0:03:41) 14:53 i just am not one to cry to the dev team when someone else is playing a way that I don't 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1765 points, T:886, killed by a Grey-elf 14:54 right you're just one to cry to other players :P 14:54 like naming Sting. THank GOD it doesn't affect artiwishing in evil 14:54 whatever man. enjoy not falling in the water and owning the realtime 14:54 I'm currently playing with paranoid confirmation off. when I set a new realtime record I'm excited to see what new excuse you come up with to invalidate it 14:55 it's pointless now. It's never going back 14:56 Emmm but is there some reason to create Sting in vanilla? 14:56 We will have Continues (1/3) etc. soon 14:56 I think just avoid naming Sting and Orcrist is okay. 14:56 if you are chaotic, it means you won't get those as sac gifts 14:57 I agree that devteam should allow some different play styles, dont need to nerf too much in vanilla :D 14:57 i'm still not sure what those two commits you linked have to do with anything recent, one if from 6 months ago and the other almost 18 months 14:57 gk had wand again :( 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 669 points, T:820, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:57 well, back in the day people would get mad when the same people would always name Sting early on and then die on Dl3 or whatever and leave bones 14:57 yeah naming sting/orcrist as chaotic increases your chances of getting secesesesceceespita 14:58 and naming them for anyone gives you yummy elves to eat for sleep resistance 14:58 because then if someone finds the bones it would add to the articount... doesn't matter in evil. i have no idea the vanilla wishing rules these days 14:58 Yes, in evilhack I would naming them :D 14:58 and in vanilla it gives you a higher chance of stormbringer as chaotic 14:58 Oh right, the bones may contains some artifacts. 14:59 well, no if you name Sting it IS an artifact 14:59 the vanilla wishing rules are the same 14:59 ? 14:59 (not the same as evil, the same as they've always been) 14:59 Loggers_VIII: I'm sorry man... I really don't want to fight. I love y'all 15:00 we all play the same game. my bad man 15:00