00:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:966 (0:40:43)
00:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] parasite (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of iron tekko entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:71249 (13:39:04)
00:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1231 (0:46:12)
00:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1829 points, T:1362, killed by a bear trap
00:27 <terrapin> Umbire yes; in that respect crystal chests are a superior stash container
00:28 <Umbire> Copy
00:29 <Umbire> Wait does that mean magic keys DON'T work on crystal chests?
00:29 <Umbire> Or do they just not work for monsters?
00:39 <terrapin> yeah they don't work on crystal chests
00:40 <terrapin> originally they did but you only rarely find crystal chests before getting a magic key so it kind of trivialized that challenge
00:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1226 points, T:6829, killed by a dwarf zombie
00:43 <Umbire> Aye
01:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9335 (0:53:50)
01:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:9357 (0:54:16)
01:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 671 points, T:988, killed by a death ray
01:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1234 points, T:10517, died of starvation, while fainted
01:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 32 points, T:482, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
02:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3404 (0:22:04)
02:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 194 points, T:436, killed by a hobbit
02:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3245 (3:10:09)
03:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1747 points, T:10183, killed by a hobbit pickpocket, while praying
03:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4918 points, T:4138, petrified by a chickatrice corpse
03:12 <arahael> Crap.
03:14 <xdminsy> :_(
03:15 <arahael> I thought i had gloves on, but I didn't.
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05:03 <mobileuser> heh magic keys and crystal chests
05:03 <mobileuser> the game calls your magic key "mundane" =D
05:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 15 points, T:1839, killed by a fox
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06:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6084 (1:18:54)
07:00 <mobileuser> \o/
07:03 <xdminsy> :_) Seems very time the goblin town requries me to kill Goblin King before reaching that closet.
07:03 <xdminsy> And the closet has no door lol.
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07:53 <xdminsy> https://ibb.co/V3Tf70m
07:53 <xdminsy> Meh, 2 hours and 12kt the nymph removes my chain.
07:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12379 (2:17:31)
08:05 <xdminsy> Lol, the orc shopkeeper doesn't sell to my kind cuz I enter that shop too early carelessly.
08:05 <xdminsy> But he's caught by my spider web :P
08:06 <xdminsy> He cannot block my way into the shop, and buy and sell to me.
08:11 <mobileuser> ah fantastic!
08:16 <mobileuser> aren't you getting attacked by the watch?
08:18 <xdminsy> The shop in goblin town.
08:19 <xdminsy> I've only reached the top 3 levels of main dungeon :)
08:19 <xdminsy> It's too dangerous to go mines before I remove the ball.
08:23 <xdminsy> The watch will attack me if he notice me, i think i won't go minetown.
08:23 <mobileuser> aah ok!
08:31 <xdminsy> Okay the flind is so fearsome :P
08:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8574 points, T:15739, killed by a flind
08:36 <mobileuser> F
08:36 <mobileuser> yeah they are extremely dangerous for early characters :-(
08:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 425 points, T:1323, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse, while helpless
08:49 <xdminsy> Sad, learnt :_[
08:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3047 (0:16:13)
09:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3474 (0:18:24)
09:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5310 (0:30:40)
09:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5806 (0:34:03)
09:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1076 (0:04:37)
09:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1908 points, T:1989, diseased by a kobold zombie, while praying
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09:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:10121 (1:11:40)
10:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13689 (1:50:16)
10:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Magician, on T:14352 (2:02:00)
11:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:16925 (2:22:51)
11:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Arcusmagus' ghost, the former Enchanter, on T:21189 (2:57:44)
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12:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:28110 (3:56:47)
12:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had a wooden dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:28515 (4:01:13)
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:31062 (4:18:13)
13:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31078 (4:18:42)
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13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:31432 (4:25:58)
14:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 3686 points, T:3129, killed by a leocrotta
14:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 1997 points, T:1135, killed by a piranha
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15:05 <mobileuser> finally managed to get MR by rev geno of gray dragons in a small custom-made room
15:06 <mobileuser> thinks got hairy when a tourist NPC opened the door and let some dragons out :-)
15:06 <mobileuser> but survived that
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15:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:34290 (5:17:18)
15:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 262755 points, T:35000, killed by a centaurian soldier
16:13 <mobileuser> YANI advanced spell of light gives the player a gives the player a temporary light radius
16:13 <mobileuser> (I see that yani already exists for scroll of light)
16:14 <mobileuser> oops typed "gives the player" twice
16:16 <aosdict> the reason it exists for the scroll and not the spell is the consumable-renewable principle
16:29 <mobileuser> yeah I guessed that
16:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3700 (2:02:34)
16:32 <mobileuser> I like the narrative of advanced spell casters being able to summon a temporary light globe
16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4030 (2:07:54)
16:36 <Loggers_VIII> you can summon yellow lights by reading a confused scroll of light in 3.7. it would be funny if there were similar effects when casting spells confused
16:38 <mobileuser> heh a swarm of tame yellow lights
16:38 <K2> hi
16:38 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
16:38 <K2> o/
16:38 <K2> mobileuser, I wont be attending worldcon this year, meaning no scottland visit :(
16:38 <K2> scotland
16:38 <K2> scotttttland
16:38 <mobileuser> D:
16:39 <K2> as i am unemployed now, i need to be mindful of expenses
16:39 <mobileuser> yeah, that makes sense
16:39 <K2> if you're around tomorrow, i'd like to ask you again about your bug list
16:39 <K2> gonna get busy :P
16:39 <aosdict> Loggers_VIII: you have me to thank for that
16:40 <mobileuser> hey, nice one aosdict
16:40 <aosdict> thankfully, we do not have to worry about "what if confused spell cast" in nethack because confusion simply suppresses spellcasting entirely
16:41 <Loggers_VIII> I thank you then, for funny light swarms
16:42 <mobileuser> oh, cancelled yellow lights?
16:42 <Loggers_VIII> yeah so they don't esplode
16:42 <aosdict> yeah that's pretty much like a light globe
16:42 <mobileuser> does that mean they don't explode at enemies?
16:42 <mobileuser> ah check
16:42 <aosdict> also in xnh they have a light radius of 2
16:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3176 (1:12:32)
16:43 <mobileuser> also nice potential strat for polearm users
16:44 <aosdict> well it doesn't give you enough to get surrounded with them, they also tend to wander aimlessly
16:44 <aosdict> not completely aimlessly, they're still pets
16:44 <aosdict> but I'd still use, like, a jelly fort if I wanted to seriously polearm 
16:45 <mobileuser> yeah probably not very practical, but multiple reads, magic whistle...
16:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law), 2026 points, T:5214, zombified by a dwarf zombie
17:05 <Loggers_VIII> a lot cheaper than a jelly fort, at least
17:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1587 (0:12:08)
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17:32 <Noisytoot> <mobileuser> YANI advanced spell of light gives the player a gives the player a temporary light radius
17:32 <Noisytoot> In FIQHack you can maintain the light spell and it acts as a lamp
17:32 <mobileuser> nice
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17:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:5365 (0:48:46)
18:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 11535 points, T:7037, killed by Mr. Chicoutimi; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
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18:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 44858 points, T:17341, killed by a blue jelly
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20:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4746 (1:27:17)
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20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Inf Cen Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:907 (0:04:19)
20:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Inf Cen Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:917 (0:04:50)
20:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Inf Cen Mal Una), 1890 points, T:1336, killed by a crossbow bolt
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21:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:839 (0:03:22)
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21:45 <Umbire> ab
21:46 <Loggers_VIII> yo
21:46 <Loggers_VIII> what's the word
21:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3768 (0:20:14)
22:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4365 (0:23:45)
22:15 <xdminsy> hi
22:15 <Hecubus> Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack
22:16 <xdminsy> morning guys.
22:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Rog Hob Mal Neu) murdered Thing, his faithful kitten, on T:895 (0:11:54)
22:16 <Loggers_VIII> morning xdminsy
22:17 <xdminsy> ab Loggers :D
22:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] SludgeGunkman (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 506 points, T:927, killed by a mountain dwarf
22:19 <Loggers_VIII> ababab
22:19 <Loggers_VIII> abcdefg, even
22:19 <K2> tuvwxyz
22:20 <Loggers_VIII> you skipped hijklmnopqrs :P
22:21 <K2> heh
22:30 <Umbire> ab K2
22:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1066 points, T:1424, burned by a fireball, while fainted from lack of food
22:54 <bouquet> FYI, my "rustproof" splitmail got rusted to dust by a rust monster in an earlier game.
22:55 <bouquet> sad trombone
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23:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 597 points, T:1784, killed by a gnome lord
23:13 <terrapin> was this your starting splint bouquet?
23:14 <terrapin> oh Sam Gia I guess so
23:15 <terrapin> yeah it looks like sometimes they don't get a rustproof one; odd
23:20 <bouquet> ya, I finally found the ttyrec.  It wasn't rustproof, but it was blessed. Maybe that's the starting tradeoff
23:20 <bouquet> I don't think I've ever seen it not rustproof.
23:21 <terrapin> yeah this is very confusing to me
23:22 <terrapin> the place where samurai normal splint mails are proofed doesn't proof large splint mails
23:22 <terrapin> so i'd expect giants to barely ever get fooproof ones. but they seem to get them the majority of the time??
23:25 <bouquet> another corner case mystery!
23:26 <bouquet> which file/line is it?
23:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:15512 (1:47:56)
23:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:16226 (1:52:31)
23:31 <terrapin> splint gets proofed here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/ad042cf9b1f7400a87a1092b1a0e4bf8b3b3b7ec/src/mkobj.c#L1129
23:32 <terrapin> it looks like it gets changed to large splint after creation if you're a giant, so presumably that's where the fooproofing is somehow lost
23:33 <terrapin> oh i see it
23:33 <terrapin> it's not a giant thing at all. the starting splint can be generated as mithril or another fooproof material, in which case oerodeproof isn't set
23:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 26548 points, T:16664, killed by a tengu
23:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1621 (0:13:01)
23:43 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ad042cf9b1f7...96220c8d6dfe
23:43 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 96220c8 - Fix: samurai splint mails were not always rustproof
23:45 <terrapin> 'night folks
23:46 <nabru> 'night
23:46 <bouquet> thanks, terrapin!
23:47 <xdminsy> night terrapin.