00:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2937 (0:17:43)
00:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3243 points, T:3145, killed by a saber-toothed tiger
00:21 <Imanity> What does an armor piece glowing brown for a moment mean? That destroy armor failed?
00:22 <Imanity> I can't see any erosion on it
00:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1542 points, T:1744, killed by a piranha
00:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2260 (0:17:21)
01:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3453 (0:31:22)
01:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a tortle shaman, on T:3622 (0:33:50)
01:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 throwing stars entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3738 (0:35:12)
01:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4940 (0:51:32)
01:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5285 (0:55:14)
01:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5594 (1:00:36)
01:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5606 (1:00:52)
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02:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8199 (1:35:06)
02:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed guest99987's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:9844 (1:50:37)
02:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:24979 (10:29:11)
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04:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:30699 (14:19:23)
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04:09 <arahaelWeb> Hmm. The abominable snowman doesn't poly.
04:09 <arahaelWeb> Who was it who polyed it yesterday?
04:10 <mobileuser> Imanity "armor piece glowing brown" can mean that fooproofing was removed on an armor piece
04:10 <Umbire> Destroy armor spell can do that btw
04:10 <Umbire> @e?Abominable Snowman
04:10 <Hecubus> Abominable Snowman (Y) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 8d4 bite physical, 6d6 weapon physical, 6d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | carnivore, swims, thick hide, regen, nopoly
04:10 <Umbire> Review the above, arahaelWeb 
04:11 <mobileuser> yeah you may need multiple tries Arahael
04:11 <arahaelWeb> Someone claimed to poly it yesterday, Umbire!
04:11 <mobileuser> look at the MR
04:11 <arahaelWeb> I gave it 3 tries, but that "no poly" looks interesting...?
04:11 <Umbire> that means you can't poly into them
04:11 <arahaelWeb> Ah.
04:11 <Umbire> most uniques are nopoly
04:12 <mobileuser> with MR 50 you need to be pretty lucky to poly them, but still possible
04:12 <arahaelWeb> Hmm.
04:13 <mobileuser> @e?Medusa
04:13 <Hecubus> Medusa (@) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 2d6 tentacle drain str, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 bite petrification | Align: -15 | omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravis
04:13 <mobileuser> same MR, but I've usually managed to poly Medusa when I wanted to...
04:14 <arahaelWeb> I'll try a few more times.
04:14 <arahaelWeb> Got sandwiched between three boulders and the snowman so I had to get out, going to get back into it soon.
04:14 <Umbire> seems you've been pretty lucky, then
04:15 <Umbire> Also unironically stone-to-flesh them
04:15 <mobileuser> well, multiple zaps often needed
04:15 <Umbire> Doesn't work if it's holding the boulders
04:20 <arahaelWeb> It does poly, yep.
04:20 <arahaelWeb> Turned into a jackal. :)
04:21 <mobileuser> \o/
04:27 <arahaelWeb> I'm probably still a bit underpowered for ice queen.
04:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a woolly mammoth), on T:31981 (14:40:37)
04:29 <arahaelWeb> Prescient.
04:31 <arahaelWeb> What AC do you guys usually prefer for ice queen? I've got -16 AC, but I suspect my luck is poor.
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04:49 <Umbire> -30 or lower, usually. 
04:49 <Umbire> You really need to refine your turn-to-turn decision-making and movement though and even then it can be touch and go
04:50 <arahaelWeb> Fair.  Ok, so I'll try and get closer to -30.
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04:52 <arahaelWeb> Going to have to enchant a ton for that.
05:05 <arahaelWeb> Hmm, AC -24 now.
05:07 <arahaelWeb> I suppose I could wish up a dragon hide robe.
05:07 <Umbire> Hi mastodon
05:07 <Umbire> please turn into something less killy
05:08 <arahaelWeb> Heh, there's a bunch of them though.  If it was just one, a poly would take care of that, yeah.
05:09 <Umbire> I am talking about my game
05:10 <arahaelWeb> !whereis Umbire
05:10 <Hecubus> arahaelWeb: Umbire is not playing.
05:10 <Umbire> !whereis UmberConductor
05:10 <Hecubus> Umbire: [hdf-eu] UmberConductor [evil]: (Bar Gia Fem Cha) T:16924 The Dungeons of Doom level: 8
05:10 <arahaelWeb> Ah, eu.
05:10 <Umbire> It is currently gatekeeping the Soko floor and I lack boulders
05:11 <Umbire> Oh right dilapidated armory
05:11 <Umbire> no disenchanter, no disenchanter...
05:11 <arahaelWeb> Odd.
05:12 <arahaelWeb> You've nearly lost your boots.
05:12 <Umbire> I'm aware.
05:12 <Umbire> Puddings tend to do that :v
05:13 <arahaelWeb> Yes.:(  I always try to be careful of that, and then forget it when it comes to the puddings.
05:14 <arahaelWeb> Heh, indeed, I see you're giant, you're always giant these days aren't you?
05:14 <Umbire> Not always
05:14 <Umbire> Been random rolling lately
05:14 <arahaelWeb> I've gone back to my usual monk.
05:20 <arahaelWeb> So much easier now that I have magic missile.
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06:23 <arahael> Why are the ice queen's dogs friendly?
06:24 <arahael> Ah, until I actually attack hte quene.
06:24 <arahael> *queen
06:25 <arahael> Hmm, and it looks like they can't be killed either, anymore?
06:26 <Umbire> They can be made to submit
06:26 <Umbire> Attacking Kathryn again will re-anger them though
06:26 <aosdict> I thought they were never killable, except maybe very early on in the first couple days before the implications of that were clear
06:26 <Umbire> Until you actually defeat her, then they become peaceful
06:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:35178 (15:51:30)
06:27 <arahael> Interesting, I remember they used to be killable.
06:27 <mobileuser> I don't think they ever were...
06:29 <arahael> I'm certain they used to be.
06:30 <mobileuser> I'm the very first player to explore the ice branch, I'm pretty sure they never were ;-)
06:31 <mobileuser> has anyone ever tried throwing tripe at them...
06:31 <arahael> Well, I guess my memory could be playing tricks on me. It does that sort of thing.
06:31 <mobileuser> oh "Cannot be tamed"
06:32 <Umbire> el mao
06:32 <mobileuser> @e?Bourbon
06:32 <Hecubus> Bourbon (d) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 20 | Res: cold sleep petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 2 | Atk: 4d6 bite physical, 3d4 claw physical | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly
06:32 <Umbire> there's a temple below the quest portal floor
06:32 <Umbire> thank goodness I didn't dump my gold in actual quest branch
06:34 <arahael> Btw, I used magic missiles, bouncing them through the two dogs onto kathryn, which then bounced the bolt back through the dogs.
06:34 <arahael> They were lined up very nicely. Unfortunately, the same bolt that eventually caused them to "submit", then hit them again on the rebound.
06:34 <mobileuser> don't tell me you angered Kathryn
06:35 <arahael> She was still full ice queen at that time.
06:35 <mobileuser> phew!
06:36 <mobileuser> I wonder if the pet dogs can be polymorphed. I imagine K2 thought of that...
06:37 <Umbire> Probabl
06:37 <Umbire> Probably did*
06:39 <aosdict> arahael: I always love when you can bounce rays off a conveniently placed monster rather than a wall
06:40 <arahael> It's fun. :)
06:40 <arahael> Makes me wonder if I could make the same bolt bounce off the monster *and* myself.
06:40 <Graznop> just tried it in wizmode - "Ozzy turns into a hobbit mummy. Bourbon turns into a shimmering dragon."
06:40 <arahael> Can you poly the queen herself?
06:43 <arahael> Now that I've completed the ice queen, NOW, I'm AC:-30. 
06:45 <Graznop> Ozzy and Bourbon can then die :(
06:46 <arahael> Graznop: Well, she's already lost a pet, so logically, the remaining two can die.
06:46 <Graznop> I have a feeling this is a bug and will be fixed!
06:47 <Umbire> Bug by oversight but yeah, expecting this to be corrected in upcoming
06:48 <Umbire> An Evil Fix™ would be to make her treat you as she would an Infidel if you beat her after doing that
06:48 <arahael> I'd say they should remain dead. But if you do kill them, you seriously enrage her, yeah. :)
06:49 <Umbire> I mean I expect it'll be prevented altogether
06:49 <Graznop> nice twist
06:49 <Umbire> Which would be the right choice
06:49 <arahael> Now, I guess, I need to find a saddle.
06:49 <Graznop> in the xtal chests?
06:50 <Umbire> Could also just make her immediately hostile Enchantress form
06:50 <arahael> Oh, yes, there's one in teh chest.
06:50 <Umbire> But just preventing poly permadeath altogether (if not poly outright) would likely be the most respectful choice
06:50 <arahael> Which is all empty...
06:51 <aosdict> Umbire: given that it's already a thing in the game, I agree, but this is why I was kind of iffy on including real life stuff in the game in the first place. it's a hack and slash game and the lord british postulate is strong, having exceptions to that which cannot be killed by ANY means is tonally weird
06:52 <Umbire> It should be in the pegasus's chest
06:52 <arahael> It's somehow missing.  But found another.
06:53 <arahael> Oops, the pegasus killed the ONLY priest in the game so far before I could saddle her. Luckily, I already bought protection.
06:53 <Umbire> In any case, later
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07:12 <arahael> If I poly some armour, can the material of that armour change or is iron always iron?
07:13 <arahael> Looks like it changes.
07:14 <arahael> Curious, got a CPM out of it.  Pity monks can't wear armour.
07:15 <arahael> Two CPM's.
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07:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38167 (17:14:04)
08:03 <K2> [backscroll] yup that's an oversight/bug (bourbon and ozzy)
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08:04 <arahael> Why are they meant to be unkillable?
08:05 <K2> just like Kathryn - family. plus she'd be very sad if she knew you could kill them
08:06 <arahael> I think you have an attatchment to Kathryn.
08:07 <K2> well she's my kid, so...
08:07 <arahael> I know. :D
08:08 <K2> :)
08:09 <arahael> This is my best game ever, I'm going to be very sad when I inevitably die.
08:09 <K2> dont die :)
08:10 <cbus> malor, the tnnt links on scoreboard points to https://.hardfought.org/...
08:10 <cbus> malor, check https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/t/torpedojuice.nh.html and look for my Val-Dwa-Mal
08:11 <arahael> K2: I've already died once.
08:11 <K2> well dont die again :)
08:11 <K2> easy peasy
08:11 <arahael> I'll try not to.
08:11 <K2> :P
08:11 <K2> I believe in you
08:11 <arahael> Right now I feel immortal, which is a very dangerious place to be.
08:11 * K2 nods
08:12 <K2> i'm glad this is your best game so far
08:12 <arahael> I enjoyed "pacifying" Kathryn's pets.  Very good dogs.
08:12 <K2> IRL they are awesome doggos
08:13 <K2> ozzy is a 110 lbs baby
08:13 <arahael> How heavy is that in kg?
08:13 <K2> um
08:13 <Graznop> 50kg
08:13 <arahael> Pretty large!
08:13 <K2> yeah just shy of 50
08:13 <K2> yeah he's a big boi
08:13 <arahael> I think in this game I'm over preparing a tad.
08:13 <K2> berbs is 36-37 kg
08:14 <arahael> My stash currently has 229 items.
08:14 <K2> no such thing as too much prep
08:14 <K2> you dont need it until you do
08:15 <K2> bourbon made aosdict her new best friend last year
08:15 <arahael> The stash doesn't include Cleaver, I have that in minetown.
08:15 <krm26> you cannot possibly overprepare
08:15 <Graznop> here's a minor oversight: when viewing dumplogs in a browser, the eu and au servers don't seem to have a favicon whereas the hardfought.org does
08:15 <krm26> sometimes i ascend with 10 unused potions of paralysis and 20 unused potions of full healing and i regret nothing
08:15 <K2> Graznop oof thanks
08:15 <arahael> Graznop: That's not a minor oversight. That's terrible!
08:15 <K2> unplayable!
08:16 <arahael> I should probably stop this game until that's been fixed.
08:16 <Graznop> rage quit!
08:16 <arahael> Considering it!
08:17 <arahael> I still find managing pet hunger confusing as heck.
08:17 <K2> hahaha
08:17 <krm26> you know to #chat with them?
08:18 <arahael> krm26: I never considered that.
08:18 <arahael> The pegasus "whickers", what's that?
08:18 <krm26> you get a different message for pets who are thinking about looking for work elsewhere
08:19 <arahael> So just be wary when they stop "whicker"'ing?
08:19 <krm26> whicker is happy
08:19 <arahael> Ok.
08:19 <krm26> slap some barding on it asap
08:20 <krm26> unfortunately you have to choose between surviving beams and surviving dragons
08:20 <krm26> and make sure you have undead turning for a second chance
08:20 <arahael> She does have some random barding on her.
08:20 <arahael> AC -12
08:21 <arahael> krm26: Surving beams and surviving dragons is a choice?
08:21 <krm26> spiked barding stops engulfing
08:21 <krm26> polished barding stops death rays
08:21 <Graznop> you can forge either
08:21 <arahael> Ah, interesting.  This is just regular barding.
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08:21 <arahael> I've yet to do the forging thing.
08:22 <krm26> if you are planning on riding peg the whole time, then spiked is best
08:22 <krm26> since you can be engulfed off the mount but it gets your reflection when riding
08:22 <arahael> Ah, nice.
08:22 <Graznop> forging is great
08:22 <krm26> if i care i try to make sure to leave the mount behind if i'm gonna be adjacent to a dragon or worm
08:23 <krm26> also don't let peg near the oracle or there will likely be mutual destruction
08:23 <arahael> Found random steel barding.
08:23 <arahael> krm26: Hmm.
08:23 <arahael> krm26: What about the quest monks?
08:23 <krm26> nobody cares about them :-)
08:24 <arahael> Master Po, though.
08:24 <krm26> you can let peg kill all sorts of stuff for you -- any shopkeeper but It, aligned priests you are done with, etc
08:24 <krm26> i don't think master po can hurt peg
08:24 <arahael> Yeah, the peg killed the queen's illithid priest.
08:24 <krm26> make sure to level peg up before constantly riding, just walk the horse around some garbage to quickly kill
08:25 <arahael> How do I take the barding off the peg?
08:25 <krm26> #loot
08:25 <arahael> That's an extra AC, nice.
08:26 <krm26> if you aren't a knight remember every time you cycle your mounting the pet gets a little more unhappy, so keep a stock of apples and carrots by kicking trees
08:26 <arahael> She's level 28. That's decent, yes?
08:26 <arahael> Yeah I have a bunch.
08:26 <arahael> 7 apples.
08:26 <krm26> i forget if peg maxes at 28 or 30?
08:27 <krm26> anyway something i like to do with peg is go back and clean out all the garbage polyfodder i've left in any stores
08:27 <krm26> and collect all the priest spellbooks if i need spells
08:27 <krm26> and kill any friendly @npcs that are walking around
08:28 <arahael> Yeah, I'm tempted to go back to orctown but blegh.
08:28 <arahael> Only real thing of value there is really Cleaver.
08:28 <Loggers_VIII> heh
08:28 <Loggers_VIII> you're monk cleaver has no value
08:28 <krm26> yes, cleaver's value is not positive
08:28 <arahael> I was gifted cleaver.
08:29 <krm26> i should say the only value cleaver has is increasing your chance of getting dragonbane
08:29 <arahael> I wished for dragonbane.
08:29 <Loggers_VIII> but if you do weaponless dragonbane is the only artifact you can get iirc
08:29 <Loggers_VIII> oh riiight
08:29 <arahael> Hmm. Where's my spellbook of dig?
08:30 <Loggers_VIII>  been wondering the same things about my spellbooks of magic missile and identify
08:30 <Loggers_VIII> I might have accidentally polypiled them
08:30 <krm26> ouch
08:30 <krm26> i don't normally have any confusing inventory problems any more since i started using colored markers for everything
08:31 <krm26> name something with #mg for magenta, #MG for bold magenta, #gn for green, etc.
08:31 <Loggers_VIII> makes sense
08:31 <arahael> I've not really done any polypiling either.  It's been a remarkably good game in terms of resources.
08:31 <arahael> Just tried some basic polypiling in the hopes of maybe getting silver boots.
08:31 <Loggers_VIII> I've been lucky too but I wanted to get a spellbook of repair armor
08:32 <Loggers_VIII> soooo nice to have for the late game
08:32 <arahael> I have that.
08:32 <arahael> No identify, though.
08:33 <rebatela> it sucks when you finally learn identify (after learning everything else) 
08:33 <Loggers_VIII> whenever I read a spellbook I think to myself "this one is definitely identify" and then when it is I feel like I somehow predicted it
08:33 <rebatela> i like being able to blank those scrolls
08:33 <Loggers_VIII> if I don't have ID as a spell casting role after the castle I just wish for it
08:33 <rebatela> same with mapping
08:33 <arahael> Oh, maybe my spellbook of dig burned.
08:33 <arahael> I've got so many CPM's. :(
08:34 <arahael> At least 3
08:35 <arahael> Not looking forward to playing nethack next month with only one hand.
08:35 <Loggers_VIII> why one hand
08:37 <arahael> Damn it.  "Your eyesight feels diminished".
08:37 <arahael> Loggers_VIII: Getting a lump removed between my middle two fingers.  Needs to heal after that.
08:38 <Loggers_VIII> if you get crowned you get permanent see invis
08:38 <Loggers_VIII> arahael ouch
08:38 <arahael> Hmm, so I need to get crowned.
08:38 <arahael> Yes, ouch. :(
08:38 <arahael> Very much not looking forward to it, but the lump needs to be removed.
08:39 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
08:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:73763 (1 day, 12:45:02)
08:40 <Loggers_VIII> I played nethack with a broken wrist for a while so it's at least doable
08:40 <arahael> Ouch.
08:41 <arahael> THere's a chance the lump is cancerious, which is a worry, but I'm going to deal with whatever as it happens.
08:42 <Loggers_VIII> good luck to you with that
08:42 <Loggers_VIII> not that I've got much to give, lol
08:42 <arahael> Thanks.
08:45 <Loggers_VIII> out of all of the rumors I've seen holding down 'a' and trying to get a wish from the 8 ball, "they say only an experienced wizard can do the tengu shuffle" has got to be my fav
08:45 <Loggers_VIII> who is "they"?? why are they saying this??
08:46 <mobileuser> many people are saying this
08:47 <Loggers_VIII> only a level 31 wizard can do the tengu shuffle
08:49 <mobileuser> not many people know that!
08:50 <arahael> I didn't.
08:50 <rebatela> had radial nerve palsy in my left arm. couldn't use my left hand. definitely still played 
08:51 <rebatela> vibes though arahael. Hope everything goes smoothly!
08:51 <arahael> Thanks.  I just dno't want it to affect any of my movements.
08:51 <arahael> Affecting strength is OK, just not the movements.
08:51 <Loggers_VIII> that would be unfortunate
08:52 <Loggers_VIII> I got lymes disease once, permanently fucked my joints a little bit
08:52 <rebatela> ?????????????????{"}}         
08:52 <rebatela> ^^ cat
08:52 <Loggers_VIII> hahaha
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08:53 <arahael> Loggers_VIII: That sucks, though I'm pleased ot learn that you can get that under control, at least.
08:55 <mobileuser> was the cat putting scrolls in a row for polypiling
08:56 <rebatela> LOL
08:56 <rebatela> cat and dog have taken so many damn screen shots stepping on print screen... I'm gonna make a collage (ok, maybe i won't actually!)
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09:01 <arahael> Hmm.  A number 5 monster. That I can' see.
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09:02 <arahael> And one that just walks through stone.
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09:02 <arahael> Eats through stone. I wonder if it's a shambling horror.
09:02 <arahael> > Status of Nukla the Spelunker (female, lawful):  Level 20  HP 144(144)  AC -22
09:02 <Loggers_VIII> I hate stone eating horrors
09:02 <Loggers_VIII> heh
09:03 <arahael> I guess it's not a shambling horror.
09:03 <Loggers_VIII> she chose the wrong place to spelunk
09:03 <arahael> I'm going to bump into her a few times. Not like i can see her.
09:04 <aosdict> K2: wait until kathryn goes into a goth/emo phase and tells you to make it so she can be killed in the game - "change it dad, it reflects my inner darkness"
09:04 <arahael> She teleported away. :(
09:04 <K2> never
09:05 <krm26> let peg kill her
09:05 <Loggers_VIII> can it even hit her
09:05 <arahael> krm26: A good idea, but she zaps away once I get within like, 5 squares.
09:06 <krm26> she'll run out of charges
09:07 <arahael> She has now, but now she's running through her telo scrolls.
09:07 <krm26> or you can just let peg loose near her and stay away, peg is often thirsty for blood
09:07 <Loggers_VIII> @e?greater pegasus
09:07 <Hecubus> greater pegasus (u) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 24 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 kick physical, 4d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | herbivore, flies, oviparous, regen, nopoly, infravis
09:07 <arahael> Finally.
09:08 <arahael> Not much of a loot.
09:09 <arahael> Been using the peg on all the shopkeepers.
09:09 <Loggers_VIII> what's your alignment
09:10 <arahael> Neutral.
09:10 <arahael> > You have gravely abused your alignment. <-- Just in case you're wondering.
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09:12 <krm26> you'll grow hair on the palms of your hands for that
09:12 <arahael> I've not heard of that expression.
09:12 <arahael> Got hair everywhere else, though. :D
09:13 <arahael> Including one or two on the chest!
09:15 <krm26> https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-the-hairy-palms-mythos/415243
09:15 <Imanity> mobileuser RE: Armor piece glowing brown, Guess it had no effect because a dragonhide piece was targeted. Assumed one degree of degrasdation would occur, but I guess they're separate spells
09:15 <mobileuser> that's right!
09:15 <krm26> items can resist deterioration
09:16 <arahael> krm26: Ooh, intriguing.
09:18 <Imanity> Either way, more AC so I'm not complaining xD
09:18 <arahael> The peg is not killing the monks.
09:19 <Loggers_VIII>  you talking about the quest guardians?
09:19 <arahael> Yes.
09:20 <Loggers_VIII> it won't attack peaceful quest guardians, hit one in the face or something and then it'll attack them
09:21 <arahael> Hmm, what about the rest of the monks though, not just Po?
09:21 <arahael> I don't think I'm quite prepared to punch them.
09:22 <Loggers_VIII> how so?
09:22 <Loggers_VIII> they're not that strong
09:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:37956 (16:30:37)
09:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37958 (16:30:57)
09:24 <arahael> Hmm if I'm considering getting crowned, I should probably hold a spellbook of restore ability.
09:24 <Imanity> What's the best gear for an Archon? I have 2 of them
09:24 <arahael> I haven't learnt it yet, but I have surely already got it.
09:24 <Loggers_VIII> imanity any artifact you don't want yourself
09:24 <Loggers_VIII> shield of reflection
09:24 <Loggers_VIII> dragonhide/crystal plate armor
09:24 <Loggers_VIII> maybe dragon-scaled
09:25 <Loggers_VIII> actually they can't wear armor
09:25 <Loggers_VIII> but high-enchanted gloves and boots, helmet, etc
09:25 <Loggers_VIII> it doesn't really matter what it is
09:25 <Imanity> Oh sadge
09:25 <Imanity> Can the wizard steal quest artifacts being used by pets?
09:25 <Loggers_VIII> they can wear armor, just not BODY armor
09:25 <Loggers_VIII> should have clarified
09:25 <Imanity> Yeah, like cloaks and shit
09:26 <Loggers_VIII> I don't know off the top of my head actually
09:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:74801 (1 day, 13:31:40)
09:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:74801 (1 day, 13:31:45)
09:28 <arahael> The peg is now level 30
09:28 <Imanity> Guess will find out xD
09:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:38198 (16:36:45)
09:30 <arahael> I fear the next level is death.
09:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 fixed secespita", on T:38202 (16:38:21)
09:40 <krm26> phew a chameleon almost vorpal jabberwocked me
09:40 <arahael> What happens if a bones level is left with the bag of hesperides?
09:41 <Imanity> It defaults to the base item
09:41 <Imanity> Which I think is a dragonhide BoH
09:41 <arahael> Hmm, so unliftable.
09:41 <Loggers_VIII> did you find a bones?
09:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:38702 (16:49:31)
09:42 <arahael> No, was just wondering.
09:42 <arahael> I suppose I should sac the priest on it's own altar, even as neutral.
09:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:38750 (16:50:15)
09:43 <arahael> If they're still fresh enough
09:44 <arahael> Huan Ti wasn't happy.
09:44 <Imanity> xd
09:46 <K2> artifact barding now protects against vorpal
09:46 <K2> getting there
09:46 <K2> i need to settle on a name for this
09:46 <krm26> Pet Bubble
09:46 <Loggers_VIII> k2 while you're here, is there a special message for getting an 8 ball wish or is it just "you may wish for an object"?
09:47 <krm26> "jesus fuck! you may wish for an object"
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> I want to put it in my stop messages so I can leave and come back later without it typing a bunch of a's into the prompt
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 lol
09:47 <K2> just normal wish
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> nice
09:48 <K2> i'm not sold on 'Barding of Unity'
09:48 <Loggers_VIII> me neither
09:49 <K2> so far the barding does this: its spiked barding/barding of reflection wrapped up into one. gives MR, beheading protection. 2 extra points of AC vs other barding
09:50 <arahael> *sigh*, no spellbook of dig or identify.  I guess I don't need dig.
09:50 <Loggers_VIII> it's hard to think of a good name for a barding
09:50 <Loggers_VIII> weapons are free, but what the hell do you name a barding?
09:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:75227 (1 day, 13:52:32)
09:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:75232 (1 day, 13:52:53)
09:51 <K2> i was trying to find a cool dwarvish name for it like Ashmar
09:51 <K2> elven might be more appropriate
09:51 <krm26> Call it Invictus
09:52 <Loggers_VIII> just call it whatever 'barding' is in elf language
09:52 <krm26> Bucephalian Barding
09:53 <mobileuser> Bobble Barding
09:54 <mobileuser> we still don't have bobble hats for doggos
09:55 <Loggers_VIII> we need stupid dog sweaters in evilhack
09:59 <K2> Ithilmar
09:59 <K2> its warhammer's version of mithril used by elves
09:59 <krm26> k2: when levitating and phasing with ashmar you get the really enter the water confirmation prompt
09:59 <K2> but it mentions using it as barding for elven steeds
10:00 <K2> fixed in next version
10:00 <krm26> (when phased into matter, since lev temporarily supressed in matter)
10:00 <K2> ^ krm26
10:00 <krm26> cool cool
10:00 <K2> Ithilmar looks/sounds cool
10:01 <Loggers_VIII> I like it
10:01 <K2> yeah but does mobileuser approve
10:02 <mobileuser> heh
10:02 <K2> what say ye, keeper of the dish?
10:02 <mobileuser> I was perusing legendary horse names
10:02 <K2> (side note, what is elvish for 'dish')
10:03 <Loggers_VIII> dishmar
10:03 <Imanity> lol
10:03 <K2> hahahah
10:03 <K2> https://realelvish.net/names/sindarin/gondor/horse/
10:04 <Loggers_VIII> I always liked the "trampler", "daughter of trampler", and "son of trampler" trifecta
10:06 <arahael> Hmm, polypiling is not cooperating.
10:06 <Loggers_VIII> #save
10:06 <arahael> Useless wands of death.
10:06 <Loggers_VIII> wrong tab
10:09 <Imanity> What are you trying to get from polypiling arahael?
10:09 <Imanity> Spellbook of restore ability?
10:10 <arahael> Imanity: Dig and Identify.
10:10 <Imanity> Oh
10:10 <K2> i really like Ithilmar
10:11 <K2> but there's already Ashmar
10:11 <krm26> remember to keep naming your books after your poly attempts
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> arahael just use pickaxe :P
10:11 <arahael> Loggers_VIII: Bah. :)
10:11 <arahael> krm26: I've got so many books.
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> k2 it's like orcrist and sting
10:12 <krm26> use dilithium crystals as part of the recipe and call it Dilithium Barding, done!
10:12 <Loggers_VIII> genius
10:13 <arahael> Ok, I give up.
10:13 <arahael> I guess I'll just wish up the id.
10:13 <krm26> call it "Hi Ho, Away!"
10:13 <krm26> imo huge waste of wish
10:13 <krm26> id isn't that important in any case
10:13 <K2> Gwaedal - wind foot
10:13 <K2> heh
10:14 <krm26> faithful servant yet master's bane
10:14 <arahael> krm26: What else is worth wishing for?
10:14 <Loggers_VIII> marker
10:14 <K2> blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl
10:14 <arahael> A third marker?
10:14 <krm26> i'd rather have a rejected artifact wish than a spellbook of identify
10:14 <krm26> especially if you can polymorph
10:14 <Loggers_VIII> wish up a marker and genocide any remotely dangerous monsters
10:15 <arahael> I've already geno'ed antimater vortex.
10:15 <krm26> no no no genocide is for creating more and more and more woolly mammoths
10:15 <Loggers_VIII> you can do both
10:15 <krm26> MORE WOOLLY MAMMOTHS
10:15 <arahael> I'm not a giant!
10:16 <arahael> I have at least 7 wands of death.
10:16 <krm26> 7 is good. got that many wands of teleport?
10:17 <K2> screw it, Ithilmar it is
10:17 <arahael> Oh, mis-counted.  5 wands.  3 of telo.
10:17 <krm26> "Champion Barding" (no possessive) -- that is a funny joke, since the chaffron is also called the champion (horse face armor)
10:17 <arahael> I have no idea how many charges they have, though.
10:18 <arahael> Because the RNG refuses to give me id.
10:18 <krm26> Or call it [something] Caparison, to move away from using barding
10:18 <krm26> or "The Full Bard": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_Maximilian_I,_Holy_Roman_Emperor#Armour_and_weapons
10:19 <krm26> cataphracts are also well-known full caparison mounted units, could be Cataphract Barding
10:19 <krm26> that is my limited knowledge of barding fully-stretched
10:19 <mobileuser> just wish for ID arahael
10:19 <arahael> I've already wished for two artifacts so a third is not going to be fantastic.
10:20 <arahael> mobileuser: I could write id.
10:20 <arahael> Oh, spellbook of ID, yeah.
10:20 <mobileuser> sometimes RNG doesn't cooperate and you just wish :-)
10:20 <arahael> Yes, I think so.
10:21 <arahael> Id is so useful.
10:21 <mobileuser> I've seen people wishing for repair armor which I personally consider a total waste :b
10:21 <Loggers_VIII> yeah that is silly
10:21 <Graznop> rather wish for a wand of poly
10:22 <arahael> repair armour is super useful as a monk, imho!
10:22 <Imanity> xD
10:22 <Loggers_VIII> but you can just wish for a marker and get enchant armor scrolls to repair, plus can write other scrolls
10:22 <Imanity> Do Archons have intrinsic MR? Their resistances state magic, which I've never seen before
10:22 <Loggers_VIII> yes they do
10:22 <Imanity> Pog
10:23 <Imanity> No need for amulet of MR then
10:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify named krm26", on T:43755 (19:48:09)
10:23 <Imanity> lmao
10:23 <Imanity> named krm26 xD
10:23 <krm26> royalties are royalties
10:25 <arahael> Oh, damn it.  My wands of death were invis.
10:25 <Loggers_VIII> hahahahahaha
10:25 <Loggers_VIII> that's still good
10:25 <Imanity> How unfortunate xd
10:26 <Loggers_VIII> curse 3 of them and get free aggravate monster to attract covetous monster
10:27 <Loggers_VIII> *monsters
10:33 <krm26> hahahhehehe
10:33 <Loggers_VIII> uh oh
10:33 <Loggers_VIII> what are you laughing about
10:34 <krm26> the wand of invisideath
10:34 <Loggers_VIII> oh lol
10:34 <krm26> that is a pretty serious mis-id -- how did that happen?
10:34 <Loggers_VIII> I was afraid I was going to see some sort of death message like "krm26-suffocated by a gelationous cube, while paralyzed by a monster" pop up
10:34 <Loggers_VIII> yeah, how did that happen?
10:35 <arahael> krm26: I thought I already identified invis.
10:35 <arahael> And I definitely identified teleport.
10:35 <arahael> No, I'm tired now.
10:36 <arahael> Yes, that's it.
10:36 <krm26> heh
10:36 <krm26> cuz invis and death have very different sales profiles, should be impossible to cross-id
10:36 <krm26> 75 v 250
10:37 <Loggers_VIII> plus you could just y'know
10:37 <Loggers_VIII> engrave
10:37 <arahael> I only engrave-test.
10:38 <Loggers_VIII> message for death is "the bugs on the floor stop moving"
10:38 <Loggers_VIII> not "the engraving vanishes" or whatever the make invis one is
10:38 <arahael> Ah, yeah, that was the big mistake.
10:39 <krm26> i don't even bother engrave-testing most of the time, just dropping crap in stores tells me everything i wanna know
10:39 <Loggers_VIII> wish I had such powers
10:39 <krm26> 88: shoot crap with it, 100: don't put it in a bag of holding, 250: nothing, 50: light, 75: bleargh
10:40 <arahael> But the shopkeepers vary the prices.
10:40 <krm26> no
10:40 <krm26> not for selling
10:40 <krm26> it is either straight or slight penalty if they hate you
10:40 <krm26> so 56/75 = 75, etc
10:40 <krm26> 100% success with no brain power
10:40 <krm26> buying takes more mental math
10:41 <krm26> of course now that you made me say it k2 will be all over that :-)
10:41 <arahael> So the prices the shopkeepers sell at is consistent?
10:41 <Loggers_VIII> it does change with the normal factors but yeah
10:41 <Imanity> Yep
10:41 <Imanity> Use the wiki's price adjustment matrix
10:42 <arahael> That's too much work!
10:42 <Imanity> xd
10:42 <Loggers_VIII> alternatively you could play the video game :P
10:42 <krm26> the prices they BUY at are consistent
10:42 <krm26> not sell
10:42 <Loggers_VIII> yeah sell can have 25%  mark up randomly iirc
10:43 <krm26> mark down
10:43 <krm26> when buying
10:43 <Loggers_VIII> no way
10:43 <Loggers_VIII> don't some shops randomly give 25% markup
10:43 <Imanity> Why does one Archon hold onto his lizard corpses, but the other keeps dropping them for rocks...
10:44 <krm26> has one of them been hit on the head recently?
10:44 <Imanity> Theyre about to be
10:44 <Loggers_VIII> what are their names
10:45 <Imanity> Demonbane and not demonbane xD
10:45 <Imanity> Idk, but the one wielding demonbane is misbehaving
10:45 <Loggers_VIII> I swear, you guys and your pets
10:45 <Loggers_VIII> never giving them proper names
10:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a leather Hawaiian shirt entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:14799 (2:46:20)
10:49 <arahael> Ok, so it looks like after all that poly'ing, I still don't hae the spellbook of restore ability.
10:49 <arahael> I could crown and get it, but...  Better would be vorpal.
10:50 <Imanity> Kind of like my prayer then. 5 consecutive spellbooks that I have not titled acid blast xd
10:50 <Loggers_VIII> everyone's gameplay is at a sort of a lull
10:50 <arahael> Yes.
10:51 <arahael> And I'm too tired to make a run for the valley again.
10:51 <arahael> Too dangerious.
10:51 <Loggers_VIII> imanity's farming for acid blast, arahael's trying to get spellbooks, I'm too stubborn to give up the 8 ball
10:51 <Imanity> How many turns are you at?
10:51 <Loggers_VIII> around 30k flat turns holding down a
10:53 <Loggers_VIII> I need to find a rock or something to put on the a key
10:57 <arahael> Loggers_VIII: If you ran it in tmux, you could script tmux.
10:58 <Loggers_VIII> it's fine it's going pretty fast actually
11:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:77400 (9:28:37)
11:04 <Loggers_VIII> heehee
11:05 <Loggers_VIII> "The Magic 8-Ball winks out of existence, but not before spreading one last rumor."
11:06 <K2> ^ misleading
11:06 <K2> thats also fixed next version
11:06 <K2> so you got an 8-ball wish
11:06 <Loggers_VIII> ja :)
11:06 <K2> bastard!
11:07 <K2> err i mean congrats!
11:07 <Loggers_VIII> hahaha
11:07 <Imanity> Gz
11:07 <arahael> Isnt' the chance of that something like 0.00001% or something?
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11:08 <arahael> Or is that *per roll*?
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11:08 <Loggers_VIII> 100,000 per roll? something like that
11:09 <Imanity> yep
11:14 <K2> neat. i made it so if a steed is wearing ithilmar, they'll never starve
11:14 <K2> they can still get hungry, and you want that so they'll eat things you want them to eat
11:15 <K2> its basically the same rule for tame monsters that arent herbivores/carnivores
11:15 <Loggers_VIII> the woolly mammoth giant meta is becoming viable
11:15 <Loggers_VIII> don't have to carry 100 apples
11:16 <K2> you'd stillw ant to carry some. keep tameness/apport up
11:16 <K2> i may play witht hat too
11:16 <K2> wow
11:16 <K2> hello space
11:16 <Loggers_VIII> heh
11:22 <Imanity> Think my pets are ready
11:22 <Imanity> -28 and -29 AC
11:23 <Imanity> Idk what to give the non-demonbane as a weapon though
11:23 <Loggers_VIII> forge a magical tsurugi or something?
11:24 <Imanity> That would do quite a bit of damage
11:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 325105 points, T:41574, decapitated by a shambling horror
11:26 <krm26> damn
11:26 <krm26> vorpal horror
11:26 <Imanity> Rip
11:26 <krm26> one round
11:27 <Imanity> Was it summoned next to you?
11:27 <krm26> nope, ended up next to me with 34 hp yet and was 90% confident magic missile would kill it -- didn't quite, and so it got a round, AND it happened to be vorpal, AND it got the roll
11:27 <krm26> that's my luck at work :-)
11:28 <Imanity> Oh :(
11:28 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame krm26
11:28 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1681640538.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html
11:29 <Loggers_VIII> that really is just par for the course for you, isn't it
11:29 <krm26> that's like a 2% roll
11:31 <K2> :/
11:31 <krm26> be a nice archmagi bones for someone on 26
11:32 <Loggers_VIII> iirc you can't get forged artifacts in bones
11:32 <krm26> mm makes sense
11:32 <Loggers_VIII> I'm in it for the lychee
11:32 <Loggers_VIII> love those things
11:32 <krm26> my tree is covered in fruit right now! another month
11:33 <Loggers_VIII> lucky
11:34 <krm26> if luck is plantiny the tree a decade ago
11:34 <Loggers_VIII> like the only perk to living in florida
11:34 <arahael> Can I survive lava now as a monk wearing dragonhide and fire resistance at XP 23?
11:34 <arahael> Like, can I now simply walk across it?
11:34 <Loggers_VIII> yea
11:35 <Imanity> What will stop you sinking?
11:35 <krm26> monk 23 water walking
11:35 <Imanity> Oh
11:35 <Imanity> that's kind of cool
11:35 <krm26> make sure your bag is dragonhide too
11:35 <arahael> Imanity: Really bloated feet, really.  Old.  Gout, you know.
11:36 <Imanity> xD
11:36 <arahael> krm26: Got the bag of persepherides.
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11:37 <K2> heh
11:40 <arahael> > The greater pegasus corpse glows iridescently.
11:40 <arahael> Woohoo!
11:42 <K2> wewp
11:42 <K2> i'm gonna make the barding grant max tameness/apport
11:43 <arahael> Hmm, so valley priest got paid 100,000 zorks and didn't bestow a single protection point.
11:43 <K2> kill him. kill him dead
11:43 <arahael> Yes, I think so too.
11:44 <arahael> Other priests have died for less.
11:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 497 points, T:2144, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion
11:44 <Imanity> How many points do you have already?
11:44 <arahael> Imanity: Not sure.
11:44 <arahael> Can I actually find out?
11:44 <Imanity> Unequip all gear
11:44 <Loggers_VIII> just take off your armor
11:44 <arahael> Imanity: I have a lot, though. :)
11:44 <Loggers_VIII> or get enlightenment
11:44 <Loggers_VIII> invoke the eyes
11:45 <arahael> AC:-5 nude.
11:45 <K2> or steal all thegold back and do it all again
11:45 <arahael> "You have a large defense bonus".
11:45 <Imanity> I think praying for protection is more efficient at that point arahael
11:45 <arahael> K2: The only priest left is in the sanctum.
11:45 <Imanity> Guaranteed 1/9 chance of 1 point
11:45 <krm26> Jared! New blood!
11:46 <K2> i've noticed a couple new names the last few days
11:46 <Imanity> But it has to have a priest inside the temple. If that's the only one around, I don't think it'll work
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11:46 <arahael> I've properly maxed out priest-led protection, anyway.
11:47 <Imanity> Well there's a 1/n chance of receiving a point from a priest with each 400(xl) donation, where n is your divine protection
11:47 <Imanity> I don't think it's possible to max out
11:47 <Loggers_VIII> it is
11:47 <Loggers_VIII> priest protection maxes at 20
11:48 <Imanity> Oh
11:48 <Imanity> That's quite low
11:48 <Imanity> I guess arahael is maxed then
11:48 <arahael> I'n not at 20, but i still have a lot.
11:48 <arahael> If I'm at -5 nude, I think that means I've got... 14 units?
11:48 <Imanity> If your base AC is 9
11:49 <K2> mucho grande AC
11:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:46305 (21:14:51)
11:50 <arahael> So I killed the priest and... Left all the gold there.
11:50 <arahael> It's to leave a message, you see.
11:50 <Loggers_VIII> heh
11:51 <arahael> > Unspeakable cruelty and harm lurk down there.
11:51 <arahael> > Are you sure you want to enter? [yn] (n) <-- "No".
11:51 <arahael> I'll leave it there for the day.  2am and all. G'night!
11:51 <Imanity> cya
11:51 <Loggers_VIII> night arahael! o/
12:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful Kop Lieutenant, on T:2127 (0:17:56)
12:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2353 (0:20:02)
12:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet of flying on an altar, on T:3485 (0:26:31)
12:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 93656 points, T:17162, quit
12:11 <Imanity> !lastgame DragonSidedD
12:11 <Hecubus> Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1681792271.evil.html
12:12 <Imanity> Seems like a wand of polymorph destroyed his armor. Feels bad man
12:19 <krm26> who cares about armor? he was a monk
12:20 <krm26> i'd trade my starting robe for a wand of polymorph straight-up
12:20 <krm26> and he turned into a rock troll killing machine
12:20 <krm26> that's just inexperienced noodling it out right there
12:21 <Imanity> Yeah
12:27 <Imanity> A two-handed sword, katana and tsurugi can be made from mithril, right?
12:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5291 (0:51:13)
12:29 <krm26> yup
12:30 <krm26> all weapons can be made from mithril except for slings i think
12:30 <Imanity> Great
12:31 <Imanity> Going to try and force my Archon's tsurugi to be made from mithril for the +3 dmg bonus
12:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Sam Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4687 (0:47:01)
12:33 <krm26> you can forge a silver tsurugi
12:33 <krm26> starting with silver daggers, knives, or arrows you can make a silver almost anything if you want
12:33 <krm26> mithril too of course
12:34 <krm26> #ad
12:34 <krm26> oops ;-)
12:34 <Imanity> I think the real problem will be humans after lucifer's dead
12:34 <Imanity> So won't be able to get silver bonus any more
12:34 <krm26> after lucifer's dead i recommend not engaging with anything
12:35 <Imanity> Yeah, my pets will hopefully be drawing aggro by yeeting would-be sacrificers into hell
12:40 <krm26> mmm -- my favorite part of tortles: starving to death
12:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:80356 (9:54:22)
12:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:7136 (1:12:34)
12:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4440 (1:06:21)
12:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7384 (1:16:39)
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12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) performed her first genocide (green slimes), on T:7573 (1:18:39)
12:57 <mobileuser> ^ approve
12:57 <mobileuser> horrible green slimes
13:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:4825 (1:18:28)
13:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4933 (1:21:44)
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13:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:82306 (10:12:29)
13:12 <Imanity> Elven items can't be fused to make higher level things like katanas, two-handed swords, etc.
13:12 <Imanity> That's kind of annoying, given how rare non-racial broadswords and longswords are
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> you can just make them
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> you can make literally every weapon in the game with arrows crossbow bolts and darts
13:13 <Loggers_VIII> make yourself a flow chart
13:13 <Imanity> Only have 3 forges though. Not sure if it's worth the effort for a pet
13:14 <Loggers_VIII> it is
13:14 <krm26> yup, #untrap is its own reward now
13:14 <krm26> the forges won't poof unless you do properties or artifacts
13:14 <Loggers_VIII> broadsword recipe is short sword and scimitar iirc
13:15 <Loggers_VIII> arrows to make knives, arrows to turn those into daggers, crossbow bolts to turn 2 daggers into short swords, forge one of those with a knife and forge the scimitar and short sword together for broadsword
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13:15 <Imanity> Won't the forges disappear before completing all that?
13:16 <Loggers_VIII> no
13:16 <Imanity> Suppose can try
13:16 <krm26> forges always disappear with artifacts; chance of disappearing with properties
13:17 <Imanity> Alright
13:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 125319 points, T:28598, killed by a gray dragon
13:17 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame
13:17 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1681663374.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1681756254.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1680684548.evil.html
13:17 <Loggers_VIII> damn it, you can't leave bones there dbanethacker!
13:18 <Imanity> xD
13:18 <Imanity> Soldiers riding dragons can be quite problematic
13:19 <Imanity> Think I faced quite a few in fort ludios
13:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:76985 (1 day, 15:10:04)
13:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2393 (0:13:26)
13:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:83096 (10:22:33)
13:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2673 (0:16:39)
13:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible attis' ghost, the former Gallant, on T:2749 (0:17:07)
13:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1476 points, T:5885, killed by a dart
13:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:77146 (1 day, 15:15:56)
13:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:77156 (1 day, 15:17:39)
13:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:77156 (1 day, 15:17:47)
13:31 <Loggers_VIII> god I am so tired of cancellation
13:32 <Loggers_VIII> the only way to protect against it is body armor >:(
13:33 <Loggers_VIII> tf is monk supposed to do about it
13:33 <Imanity> Yep. Wish there was another body armor piece to combat cancellation
13:33 <Loggers_VIII> I don't!!!
13:33 <Loggers_VIII> I wish there was maybe gloves that did it
13:33 <Imanity> Monks can't use any body armor?
13:33 <Loggers_VIII> the TH penalty is insurmountable in evil
13:33 <Imanity> I know in vanilla they got a huge to-hit penalty but that was managable
13:33 <Imanity> Damn
13:34 <Imanity> Suppose it definitely elavates the class fantasy
13:34 <Loggers_VIII> cancellation is just a bad mechanic though, is my main problem
13:35 <Imanity> I agree. It's kind of like disintegration for your items
13:35 <Imanity> well, most of them
13:35 <Loggers_VIII> either you have to take out one scroll of charging or potion of holy water, or half of your armor/weapons are +0
13:36 <Imanity> Scrolls, potions and wands too
13:36 <Loggers_VIII> there's no interesting way to counter it, it's just "whoops you didn't farm up enough scrolls haha gotcha"
13:36 <Loggers_VIII> scrolls potions and wands you shouldn't be carrying around normally in open inventory anywya
13:36 <Loggers_VIII> *anyway
13:37 <Loggers_VIII> but wands you can just recharge
13:37 <Imanity> Even then, if you need to heal or escape against someone with a wand
13:37 <Imanity> they can nullify that if they get lucky
13:37 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
13:38 <Imanity> Maybe monks could get some % of scaling cancellation resistance
13:38 <Loggers_VIII> besides, there's already deterioration and shit for armor in the late game, do you really have to steal my enchantment too?
13:39 <Loggers_VIII> it just encourages boring gameplay
13:39 <Loggers_VIII> arghhhhhhh
13:39 <Loggers_VIII> rant over
13:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:83160 (10:32:19)
13:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:83160 (10:32:21)
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13:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:5407 (0:34:08)
13:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Law), 8625 points, T:5407, quit
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13:46 <Imanity> !lastgame DragonSidedD
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13:46 <Hecubus> Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1681837909.evil.html
13:47 <Imanity> My god, someone should tell DragonsidedD to stop use testing
13:47 <Imanity> They're not even price ID-D from the looks of it
13:47 <krm26> send him a scroll
13:51 <Imanity> Maybe if I include a picture of a sad manatee he'll get the message xD
13:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3911 points, T:3692, killed by a piranha
13:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:83612 (10:41:17)
13:53 <Loggers_VIII> vecna you chose the wrong monk to mess with today
13:53 <Loggers_VIII> thanks for the eye
13:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:83615 (10:41:57)
13:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:83615 (10:41:59)
13:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:83616 (10:42:11)
13:54 <Loggers_VIII> heh, never saw the "I am vecna the unholy!" line before
13:55 <Loggers_VIII> I'm Loggers the eighth, asshole!
13:55 <krm26> i REALLY HATE not being able to cast light without pissing off your pet
13:55 <krm26> pets should close their eyes for one turn when you #chat with them
13:56 <Imanity> Yeah
13:56 <Loggers_VIII> oh nice vecna had a spellbook of acid blast
13:57 <Loggers_VIII> imanity you want it? :)
13:57 <Imanity> Last one I need xd
13:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided giant centipedes, on T:83754 (10:45:22)
13:58 <Loggers_VIII> I think I am going to eat the eye of vecna
13:58 <rebatela> Loggers yeah i end of saving so many EA scrolls because of late game cancellation 
13:58 <rebatela> so annoying 
13:58 <Loggers_VIII> I just think it's unnecessary
13:59 <Loggers_VIII> like, who is that for
13:59 <krm26> who is the eye for?
13:59 <Loggers_VIII> for me :)
13:59 <Imanity> xD
13:59 <rebatela> cancelling our stuff? who is that for? pretty sure k2 gets a thirll
13:59 <rebatela> thrill
13:59 <Loggers_VIII> haha yeah
13:59 <Imanity> Cancellation is so strong, I won't end up using Tiamat's scales if I find them
14:00 <rebatela> krm26 keeps all his rings and wands in his bag...
14:00 <rebatela> he had enough of shocking spheres or something 
14:00 <krm26> rings are for chumps, i cut off my fingers on level 1
14:00 <rebatela> speaking of which... i do not like those things 
14:01 <Loggers_VIII> shocking spheres?
14:02 <rebatela> yeah
14:04 <rebatela> but i used to love having wand of poly etc. in open inventory because it can really save you, but then something casts or whatever and it goes to 0 -01  or whatever 
14:05 <K2> i will do a Thing™
14:05 <K2> and it will be Good™
14:05 <Loggers_VIII> oh boy
14:05 <Loggers_VIII> btw k2 what's the damage from eating eye of vecna?
14:05 <Loggers_VIII> can I survive it at 337 HP?
14:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law), 14058 points, T:13175, poisoned by an orcish arrow
14:06 <Loggers_VIII> aw :(
14:06 <krm26> mmm live long enough, poison instadeath
14:07 <krm26> loggers: think you'll need more than that
14:07 <Loggers_VIII> poison instadeath I have come around on
14:07 <Loggers_VIII> I think it's funny
14:08 <rebatela> that's why i play monk... i don't go into mines until lvl 3 and then poison resistance. 
14:08 <krm26> pretty decent unavoidable probability
14:08 <krm26> can always orc it up when you get frustrated
14:08 <rebatela> vanilla you can die instadie to poison though right? 
14:09 <Loggers_VIII> ahhh I forgot that the izchak invincibility bug isn't fixed this version!!!
14:09 <krm26> bug
14:10 <krm26> ?
14:10 <Loggers_VIII> he revives at full health if you kill his angel form
14:10 <Loggers_VIII> but he's not supposed to
14:10 <krm26> i thought he definitely was
14:10 <Loggers_VIII> nah: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/0771f9cef4dc7a342706f2ab77f2e9986963c28f
14:11 <K2> −1 tameness every time you use #ride to try to mount a saddled pet, unless you are a knight. Tameness also influences your chance of success.
14:11 <K2> ^ i'm not seeing where this occurs
14:13 <K2> nothing in mount_steed decreases tameness
14:14 <K2> anyone seeing anything i'm not?
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> it could be different in evil, but I've lost many a steed in vanilla by mounting it too many times
14:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77779 (1 day, 15:51:47)
14:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:77780 (1 day, 15:51:54)
14:14 <K2> yeah i know it happens, i just dont see where
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> ah lol
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> is terrapin here?
14:14 <Loggers_VIII> guess not
14:15 * K2 casts 'summon qt'
14:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:77787 (1 day, 15:53:21)
14:16 <K2> or maybe bhaak, he's around today
14:16 * Loggers_VIII tries to cast 'summon bhaak'
14:16 * Loggers_VIII doesn't have enough energy to cast that spell
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14:24 <qt> hello
14:24 <Hecubus> Hello qt, Welcome to #evilhack
14:25 <qt> what's up?
14:25 <K2> hi qt
14:25 <mobileuser> re: cancellation it used to be much worse actually Loggers_VIII
14:25 <K2> i'm trying to find where tameness is decreased when you #ride a steed
14:25 <K2> its not in mount_steed
14:25 <K2> or doride
14:26 <K2> this should not be this hard :)
14:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:77959 (1 day, 16:03:56)
14:26 <qt> hmm I'll see if I can find it
14:26 <Loggers_VIII> mobileuser makes no difference :)
14:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:77970 (1 day, 16:04:21)
14:26 <K2> thanks
14:27 <qt> it is in mount_steed actually
14:27 <qt> steed.c:653 (idk if the line number is off since I'm not looking at the current HEAD but it should be aroudn there)
14:27 <qt> if (!force && !Role_if(PM_KNIGHT) && !(--mtmp->mtame)) {
14:27 <qt> see it decrements mtmp->mtame in there
14:28 <K2> wtf
14:28 <krm26> prefix decrement sux man
14:28 <qt> sort of hard to read but at the same time you can't do it in advance of that 'if' if you want to make sure knights and wizmode force-mount doesn't decrement it
14:28 <qt> to make it more parseable you'd have to have nested ifs or something
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14:28 <K2> hmm
14:29 <K2> ok
14:29 <K2> thanks qt
14:29 <krm26> oh noes, nested ifs, the horror
14:29 <qt> if (!force && !Role_if(PM_KNIGHT) { --mtmp->mtame; if (!mtmp->mtame) { ... } }
14:29 <krm26> be kind to your distant code readers
14:29 <qt> yeah I didn't mean it would be bad, would be easier to read for sure
14:29 <K2> why isnt the -- after mtmp->mtame
14:29 <krm26> prefix decrement
14:30 <krm26> decrement before consulting
14:30 <qt> --mtmp->mtame means "decrement first, then look at the value after that"
14:30 <qt> mtmp->mtame-- means "look at the value, then decrement"
14:30 <K2> but in other places it shows as mtmp->mtame-- to decrease tameness
14:30 <K2> oh
14:30 <qt> either way it'll decrement the value
14:30 <K2> i see
14:30 <qt> it's just that e.g. if mtmp->mtame == 1, (--mtmp->mtame) > 0 would be FALSE but (mtmp->mtame--) > 0 would be true
14:30 <K2> this code frightens and confuses my primitive caveman brain
14:31 <qt> even though they both end up with mtmp->mtame == 0 at the end
14:31 <bhaak> funny that, it's code from the stone age of programming
14:31 <krm26> oh come on man, bronze age
14:33 <krm26> like, near incrementing jump would be stone age
14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:78108 (1 day, 16:16:49)
14:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:78118 (1 day, 16:18:02)
14:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:78128 (1 day, 16:19:25)
14:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3747 (0:31:23)
14:46 <Imanity> 63 magic marker charges spent for acid blast spellbook. This had better be worth
14:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:78185 (1 day, 16:24:38)
14:48 <krm26> you'll definitely cast acid blast once or twice :-)
14:48 <Imanity> Hope so
14:49 <Loggers_VIII> oh damn I missed lucifer fight :(
14:50 <krm26> that is a flex, creating purity AFTER killing lucifer
14:50 <Imanity> Yep xD
14:51 <krm26> hmmm...what player has kitties named Meooow
14:51 <krm26> oh alas Jared
14:52 <krm26> who the heck are you
14:52 <Imanity> What did he die to?
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14:53 <krm26> looks like general shopkeeper in minetown
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14:53 <Imanity> Must be still getting used to the variant
14:53 <Imanity> Shopkeepers are monsters, even with sleep res
14:54 <krm26> hah, no, kobold killed him with a dart
14:54 <Imanity> Oh
14:54 <krm26> that blows, all his loot is in the shop
14:54 <krm26> at least his loot was all utter garbage so there is that
14:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) destroyed Jared's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:4001 (0:42:35)
14:58 <Loggers_VIII> hm today I will farm baphomet for wraiths
14:58 <Loggers_VIII> nevermind he has to die
14:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:86641 (11:36:14)
14:59 <Loggers_VIII> don't have time for that!
15:00 <qt> Loggers_VIII  <-- clueless
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> heh
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> he got like one lucky turn on me and took off 60% of my health
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> decided he should go away
15:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:78470 (1 day, 16:40:20)
15:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:78473 (1 day, 16:41:26)
15:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:78474 (1 day, 16:41:32)
15:06 <Imanity> Let's see if Orcus likes baths of acid
15:07 <Imanity> He's resisting it. Is there some hidden acid immunity?
15:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:82271 (2 days, 7:29:00)
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> that'd be his MR I believe
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> @e?orcus
15:08 <Hecubus> Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate
15:08 <Imanity> Must be. He resisted cold too
15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:86831 (11:47:31)
15:10 <krm26> omigod stupid fing warning that won't give the goddamn nymphs a rating because i'm level SEVEN
15:11 <krm26> SHOULD BE ZERO CATEGORY
15:11 <krm26> kjkfjdskf
15:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:86990 (11:48:46)
15:14 <Loggers_VIII> I think it's time to just go win
15:14 <Loggers_VIII> monks are op
15:15 <Imanity> Think we have 3 potential ascensions today
15:15 <Imanity> A barbarian, monk and wizard xD
15:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a weredemon, on T:87295 (11:53:21)
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15:19 <Loggers_VIII> goodbye shirt and cloak
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> fuckit I'm still going for it
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> I'm averse to farming
15:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:78731 (1 day, 16:57:24)
15:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:78732 (1 day, 16:57:43)
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> ooh  I gotta see this
15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:87591 (12:03:07)
15:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:87595 (12:03:21)
15:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 5901279 points, T:78818, ascended
15:29 <Hecubus> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/evilhack/dumplog/1681242295.evil.html
15:29 <mobileuser> congrats Graznop!
15:29 <Imanity> Grats
15:29 <K2> \o/
15:29 <K2> yay
15:30 <Graznop> Thanks! enjoyed that
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> gg
15:30 <K2> awesome
15:30 <K2> i'm almost done with this artifact barding
15:31 <K2> working on the lance not breaking bit
15:31 <mobileuser> what, not ascended in disgrace?!
15:31 <Loggers_VIII> rookie mistake
15:31 <Graznop> naw, felt quite pious today!
15:31 <mobileuser> heh
15:32 <Graznop> hmm. what next?
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> ranger?
15:34 <Imanity> Wizard!
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> wizard is god mode :P
15:35 <K2> back in a bit
15:35 <K2> congrats Graznop \o/
15:36 <Loggers_VIII> ugh graz'zt
15:36 <Loggers_VIII> I'm gonna poly him this time
15:40 <Graznop> trying to do all roles, already done wizard :-( Cav, Kni, Inf and Ran left...
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> ach I'm gonna die
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> graz'zt randomly woke up
15:41 <Imanity> Can't you scroll of earth and wand him to death?
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> scroll of earth burned up
15:42 <Imanity> sadge
15:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2026933 points, T:88274, killed by Yeenoghu
15:44 <Loggers_VIII> fun
15:44 <Graznop> oof :(
15:45 <Imanity> No way, they gated in Yeenoghu
15:45 <Imanity> Thats unlucky
15:45 <Loggers_VIII> my favorite part about graz'zt is how he is unkillable if you don't have a scroll of earth
15:45 <Loggers_VIII> really makes the fight interesting
15:46 <Loggers_VIII> sigh
15:46 <Loggers_VIII> ok is time for new run :)
15:49 <Loggers_VIII> hah, I already know the spells magic missile stone to flesh levitation restore ability and knock
15:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Arc Trt Mal Neu), 225 points, T:756, killed by a system shock
15:52 <Loggers_VIII> lol
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:83386 (2 days, 8:20:58)
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:83387 (2 days, 8:21:01)
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 190 points, T:292, killed by falling down a mine shaft
16:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Ith Mal Cha), 4 points, T:39, killed by a falling rock
16:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Ith Mal Cha), 106 points, T:385, killed by a jackal
16:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:288 (0:01:38)
16:04 <mobileuser> Loggers_VIII try some hackem!
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> you know, that's not a bad idea
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> I need something different
16:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:643 (0:02:55)
16:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:1510 (0:06:43)
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16:19 <Imanity> Would anyone like a Demogorgon?
16:19 <Imanity> Free to a good home :)
16:21 <Loggers_VIII> if you die to him I'll take your bones :)
16:22 <Imanity> xD
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16:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:3937 (0:59:53)
16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had 19 throwing stars entrusted to her by Huan Ti, on T:4133 (1:00:45)
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16:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:84266 (2 days, 8:52:56)
16:32 <Graznop> \o/
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16:33 <Imanity> Probably should've let my Archon keep wailing on him. But couldn't tell its hp
16:37 <Umbire> ?
16:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5773 (1:11:04)
16:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6407 (1:16:52)
16:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law), 677 points, T:971, killed by a lesser homunculus, while reading a book
16:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8653 (1:32:47)
17:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 19659 points, T:9450, killed by a bolt of lightning
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17:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2905 (0:23:34)
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18:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:4454 (0:38:08)
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5225 (0:46:35)
18:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] guest99987 (Inf Ith Mal Una), 886 points, T:1119, killed by the Goblin King
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18:28 <Imanity> Is it a good idea to use a drum of earthquake on the astral plane?
18:28 <Imanity> Since I assume most player monsters can't fly
18:34 <Graznop> probably best to spend the turns doing something else? (also woolly mammoths can't fly either). A drum is handy on the plain of air though, and for waking up Rodney
18:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2845 (1:45:55)
18:37 <Imanity> I'm an illithid, with 2 pet Archons so will have no problem navigating
18:38 <Graznop> may help to control the hoards then
18:39 <Imanity> The red horse flies too. If a few turns spent playing the drum cripples their movement, it may be worth
18:39 <Graznop> You''l have to be very careful to get Archons through the portals - leashes will help
18:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3006 (1:48:38)
18:39 <Imanity> Yeah, the plane of water is gonna suck
18:41 <Imanity> But have sea dragon scaled armor and amulet of magical breathing. WIll swim to the approximate bubble location and whistle them over
18:41 <Graznop> problem is if a leashed Archon hits the portal, it teleports (?) away not through, becoming unleashed - then when you step on the portal it doesn't follow
18:42 <Imanity> Like it gets removed from the game?
18:42 <Imanity> rather than waiting on the other side?
18:42 <Graznop> given that you're such a damage machine, are the Archons really necessary? or just a distraction?
18:42 <Imanity> More of a distraction, but they can still hold their own in fights
18:42 <Imanity> One could've very easily soloed demogorgon if I let it
18:43 <Graznop> For them to follow you they have to be adjacent when you step on the portal, or leashed
18:43 <Imanity> Guess will leash them as soon as I'm in the correct bubble
18:43 <Graznop> you'll have noticed how fast they move - it's difficult to be sure they're adjacent
18:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9552 (1:19:50)
18:44 <Imanity> Yep, even when I whistle them to me to go up the stairs, they rarely come adjacent to me xD
18:44 <rebatela> definitely use leasess ive tried getting titans through and always fail 
18:44 <rebatela> leashes
18:45 <rebatela> damn having 2 archons would be pretty sick tho 
18:45 <rebatela> where are you?
18:46 <Graznop> would be immense
18:46 <Imanity> Visiting my stash for the final time. Afterwards will wake the wizard
18:46 <rebatela> oh nice
18:46 <rebatela> might watch. best of luck!
18:46 <Imanity> Ty, on EU
18:47 <Graznop> you gonna run now?
18:47 <Imanity> In about 20-30 mins. Sorting out stash
18:47 <Graznop> cool. best of luck!
18:47 <Imanity> thx
18:47 <Umbire> gl
18:48 <rebatela> i actually hage a game with the amulet and a couple pimped out titans i stopped playing tho. 
18:48 <rebatela> pets that can cast spells are super fun 
18:48 <Imanity> Yeah
18:49 <Imanity> Was tempted to tame a ki-rin too, as a mount, but chose a pegasus
18:49 <Imanity> then he got disintegrated :(
18:50 <rebatela> yeah they are hard to keep alive 
18:50 <Graznop> i had the Balrog from the Orcish temple the other day - it walked me through the monk's quest and to the castle, no spells, just power 
18:50 <Imanity> Damn
18:50 <Imanity> Was it given that weapon Balrogs can get?
18:51 <Graznop> it seemed pretty happy with a unicorn horn
18:51 <Imanity> Aha
18:51 <rebatela> yeah it's nice that you can loot them now and kinda force a +5 frost brand etc on them or whatever
18:52 <rebatela> sometimes they will want to just play with the unicorn horn 
18:52 <Imanity> Glad they take into account object materials and overall AC too, rather than just its enchantment
18:52 <rebatela> you can give a pet crazy armor 
18:52 <Graznop> tried two vampire mages today, but they didn't last very long - first dragon, burrrp...
18:53 <Graznop> pets with crazy armor make for interesting bones!
18:53 <Imanity> Especially when you "die" on level 3 of the main branch
18:58 <K2> hi
18:58 <Hecubus> Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack
18:58 <Imanity> Good bot
18:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:10251 (1:34:35)
19:00 <Graznop> K2, do you still plan on introducing a drow race in the next release?
19:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10514 (1:37:18)
19:03 <K2> maybe
19:03 <K2> i want to
19:04 <K2> trying to get these last forged artifacts knocked out
19:04 <K2> #q
19:04 <Graznop> I imagine a lot of work
19:05 <K2> to do it right, yeah
19:06 <Umbire> Hey K2
19:06 <Graznop> Thanks for the forges in purgatory btw, I stopped to use one today
19:06 <Umbire> did you see the thing about polying Ozzy/Bourbon
19:07 <K2> i did
19:07 <K2> Graznop o/
19:08 <K2> its on the list to fix
19:08 <Umbire> Bet
19:08 <K2> i'm knee-deep in this artifact barding atm
19:09 <K2> oh yay i just fixed this nagging lil issue
19:12 <K2> jousting while riding a steed that is wearing the artifact armor, lance will never break
19:18 <krm26> feature!
19:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:11951 (1:55:38)
19:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4546 (2:29:34)
19:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 57501 points, T:12902, killed by a troll
19:30 <Umbire> Hello Sunsword
19:31 <Umbire> I have very silly Aleax luck
19:59 <Imanity> Why are my Archons not using ring of free action?
19:59 <Imanity> Do they not need it?
19:59 <Graznop> Don't think monsters use them
20:00 <Imanity> Oh I guess until I play a game with the new patch
20:00 <Graznop> yes, next version...
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20:00 <Imanity> I'll just give them rings of increase dmg ig
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20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:18091 (5:26:02)
20:11 <botifico-8ce731f> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±18] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/a55878ebd098...e93e92a405d2
20:11 <botifico-8ce731f> [EvilHack] k21971 e93e92a - New forging artifact recipe - Ithilmar.
20:11 <K2> bbl, food time
20:14 <Umbire> woo warhammer
20:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:85308 (2 days, 11:16:17)
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20:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:85312 (2 days, 11:17:04)
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20:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:18780 (5:39:10)
20:18 <Imanity> Make some light to read by
20:19 <Imanity> Ring the bell to get the attention of the audience
20:19 <Imanity> Read the book to them
20:19 <Imanity> xD
20:19 <Imanity> Love it even after so long
20:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:85324 (2 days, 11:20:05)
20:19 <Graznop> go go go!
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20:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:85493 (2 days, 11:39:25)
20:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:85495 (2 days, 11:39:40)
20:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7878 (1:25:42)
20:40 <terrapin> k2: looks like a sokoprize's material is defined before it has the sokoprize flag set, allowing silver/iron/mithril prizes. Probably want an init_obj_material(otmp) after this block: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/e93e92a405d2d3fa2062295e604ac2f21cc88ee5/src/sp_lev.c#L2096. 
20:40 <terrapin> go Imanity!
20:40 <Umbire> Bring it home!
20:40 <Imanity> :D
20:41 <K2> woo go Imanity
20:41 <K2> terrapin thanks
20:42 <terrapin> saw Ithilmar---looked very cool! worthy of losing GoPur
20:42 <terrapin> (if anything is)
20:42 <K2> thanks
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20:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:85537 (2 days, 11:45:26)
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20:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:85560 (2 days, 11:48:11)
20:52 <K2> terrapin, like so? https://termbin.com/qgm7
20:52 <K2> seems to work
20:53 <terrapin> makes sense to me
20:54 <K2> ship it
20:56 <arahael> Do wraiths leave corpses below the valley?
20:56 <Imanity> The castle counts as a graveyard so no
20:56 <Imanity> You need to go above that
20:57 <Imanity> They leave below too
20:57 <Imanity> But easier to lure to level above castle
20:57 <arahael> *below* the valley.  The castle is above.
20:57 <Imanity> Answered that too
20:57 <Graznop> below is ok
20:57 <arahael> Thanks.
20:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46312 (21:17:46)
20:57 <arahael> "You feel vibrations".  That's new.
20:58 <arahael> Lots of devils and stuff here now.
20:58 <botifico-8ce731f> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e93e92a405d2...4b69b692b7d4
20:58 <botifico-8ce731f> [EvilHack] k21971 4b69b69 - Fix: sokoban prizes could still spawn with an invalid material.
20:59 <arahael> The pegasus "neighs", rather than "wickers", so I guess it needs food.
21:00 <arahael> Nope.  Weird.
21:00 <arahael> Accidental Vecna.
21:01 <arahael> Where's the wraiths!?
21:03 <Graznop> There's not usually very many W in Vecna's graveyard (5 or 6 maybe?)
21:03 <arahael> That's a fair change, I see that's been massively scalled back.
21:04 <arahael> There used to be hundreds. That got fixed, but there were still quite a few.  5-6 is... Quite a change.
21:04 <Umbire> Neighing can signal a need to feed, but not always
21:05 <arahael> Interesting.
21:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 533 points, T:1820, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze
21:06 <Umbire> More often than not it does though, and you have to remember that not all veggy stuff are horse-compatible
21:06 <Umbire> s/stuff/things
21:06 <arahael> Are bananas horse compatible?
21:07 <Umbire> No lol
21:08 <Umbire> They only take those if practically starving
21:08 <Umbire> Apples and carrots are most ideal for u
21:08 <arahael> Ha, I've been using bananas almost this entire time! I've only got a few apples and carrots.
21:08 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/49c218480d8ea565188f1b504b6f8733a1659d77
21:09 <terrapin> horses eat bananas if hungry
21:09 <K2> that's bananas
21:09 <Imanity> Just got the message "you don't feel very smooth anymore". Anyone know what it could be?
21:10 <arahael> Ok, so I've dropped a bunch of oranges and it ate one, but is still "neighs".
21:10 <K2> Imanity - your reflection spell timed out
21:10 <Imanity> Oh I see thanks
21:10 <Graznop> most days I walk past some horses in a field. Tomorrow I will try and feed one a banana. Science!
21:10 <Imanity> xD
21:12 <arahael> Graznop: They are sweet, so they'll generally love them, especially if they've had one before.
21:12 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Chat#Pets
21:13 <arahael> Hmm, so it's not a 'whinny', so not super bad. But not a "wickers", so not great either, but somewhere in between.
21:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3093 points, T:4106, killed by a carnivorous ape
21:16 <terrapin> I love the Demonbane name. "Demonbane's attack passes harmlessly through the spectre" had me real puzzled for a while
21:16 <Imanity> Ikr
21:16 <terrapin> good night everyone, and good luck, Imanity!
21:16 <Imanity> ty gn o/
21:16 <K2> gnite
21:16 <K2> nice PR terrapin
21:16 <K2> just sarted reading
21:17 <K2> *started
21:17 <terrapin> oh cool. I'll be around next evening if you want to discuss it
21:17 <K2> and daaamn how'd i miss that in potion.c
21:17 <K2> ok
21:18 <K2> i'm prob gonna turn in early too, i need it
21:18 <K2> was draggin ass today
21:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 silver shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1238 (0:05:26)
21:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:85952 (2 days, 12:20:24)
21:20 <Imanity> Pets still pet pulled up by potions of gain level if they're leashed to you, right?
21:21 <K2> huh
21:21 <K2> i dont know
21:21 <Imanity> I'll test in wizard mode
21:22 <Imanity> Only if they're adjacent to you
21:26 <Umbire> Finally killed that mastodon
21:26 <Umbire> Leprechaun must've hit a polytrap
21:27 <Imanity> Pog
21:33 <Umbire> Lemme finally do soko before I fuck around and something deathzaps me
21:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:86318 (2 days, 12:35:29)
21:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Jared (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 arrows on an altar, on T:3021 (0:29:37)
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21:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4046 (0:27:14)
21:47 <Imanity> Goggles+sea dragon scaled armor really pays off on the plane of water
21:47 <Imanity> At portal within about 10s
21:47 <Umbire> Glad someone's making use of 'em
21:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7908 points, T:5586, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted centaurian watchman
21:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:41769 (1 day, 12:05:51)
21:54 <Imanity> "Worthy vassal, know now thy true identity! Behold thy steed, the Red Horse!"
21:54 <Imanity> Such cool dialogue K2 :)
21:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:86499 (2 days, 12:59:31)
21:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:86500 (2 days, 12:59:53)
22:01 <Graznop> a tame shambling horror?
22:01 <Imanity> I'm surprised too
22:01 <Imanity> Didn't cast charm monster, it appeared with famine
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22:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:86555 (2 days, 13:11:22)
22:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:86557 (2 days, 13:11:36)
22:12 <Imanity> It is time
22:12 <Graznop> way-hay congrats Imanity!
22:12 <Imanity> ty
22:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8241002 points, T:86566, ascended
22:13 <Hecubus> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1681399465.evil.html
22:14 <Umbire> GG
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22:17 <Imanity> Second person to do 7 conducts too, not bad
22:24 <Umbire> Well done
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22:55 <Umbire> Fire E was attacking a xan for some reason
22:55 <Umbire> reminded me to put ON a rin of invis
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