00:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 131 points, T:677, killed by a small mimic
00:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3 points, T:19, burned by molten lava
01:11 <K2> ugh i stayed up too late
01:11 <K2> will commit what I have when i wake up
01:11 <K2> gnite
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02:18 <dbanethacker> Hmmm, remember that level with the 9 mind flayers and the eolithid (sp)?  It turns out the room they were all in was a mind flayer nursery.
02:22 <Umbire> Yes, that's a normal themed room
02:22 <Umbire> the neolithid being there was news though
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02:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29853 (13:09:19)
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03:01 <dbanethacker> ok, I thought that would be a normal place to find one, perhaps.
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04:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:91890 (1 day, 6:31:02)
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05:57 <mobileuser> 20:18 <K2> i think i'm going to tweak rodeny just a bit for next version
05:57 <mobileuser> :O
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06:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2688 points, T:3039, killed by a bolt of cold
06:24 <NetSysFire> damn you goblin king
06:24 <NetSysFire> instakill
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06:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) made her first wish - "blessed fixed wand of polymorph", on T:36000 (12:07:23)
06:29 <NetSysFire> where is the grease
06:29 <krm26> i'm just aggravated by this stupid game and its stupid alhoon
06:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 155611 points, T:36095, killed by a wolf, while paralyzed by a monster
06:30 <krm26> there we go
06:30 <krm26> that's what i was looking for
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06:49 <aosdict> having paranoid water but not paranoid step off cliff is not self-consistent
06:50 <aosdict> why does the game protect you from something as mundane as blanking your scrolls and diluting potions, but not protect you in the case where one typo kills you instantly
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07:20 <mobileuser> addition: paranoid water is paranoid lava at the same time, which usually kills you instantly. (I know, that doesn't change your argument)
07:32 <K2> for the consistent argument, i should just remove paranoid swim then. but the genie is already out of the bottle
07:35 <K2> <aosdict> why does the game protect you from something as mundane as blanking your scrolls and diluting potions <--- eh? never seen that before
07:36 <K2> paranoid_confirmation doesnt cover those
07:36 <K2> off to work bbl
07:39 <aosdict> K2: blanking scrolls and diluting potions by typoing into water
07:40 <bhaak> paranoid_ask_me_for_confirmation_if_the_next_action_could_kill_me
07:40 <aosdict> K2: indeed, all 3 other options are more consistent than the current state of affairs (no paranoid protection, both paranoid protections, or paranoid protection against cliffs (and lava?) but not water)
07:41 <terrapin> I mean I'd love a paranoid air option, but a big difference between it and lava/water is it doesn't randomly generate. Just like Medusa can get away with totally BS stoning powers because you always know she's coming and can prepare, open air gets some leeway, too. Also you can never confuse air with a fountain.
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08:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Cen Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1744 (0:44:27)
08:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Cen Fem Una) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:1759 (0:48:00)
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08:30 <dbanethacker> Hello all. I encountered an oddity on the Medusa level.  I was blindfolded in the room next to Medusa on the left with the kraken.  I used my aklys to wake it up and he moved next to a wall.  I threw a boulder at him and he immediately disappeared.  I guess the boulder filled the water and buried him, but I got no message that the kraken was
08:30 <dbanethacker> dead.  Is that expected?
08:39 <terrapin> if you're blindfolded you probably shouldn't get a message, yeah
08:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Cen Fem Una), 5068 points, T:2658, killed by a chameleon imitating a trapper
08:42 <dbanethacker> Ok, I can understand that.
08:42 <dbanethacker> It was the killing off of a kracken in 1 turn with a boulder that filled the water which surprised me the most.
08:50 <terrapin> true, the instakill is surprising. It seems intentional in the code? I wonder if you could do it to, say, Juiblex
08:52 <K2> without looking anything up - i believe if there's a monster swimming in a water tile, and you push/throw a boulder into that space with it, the boulder buries the monster, killing it
08:53 <terrapin> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/461f4536744c2ec474e785f1b3268121a54060cc/src/do.c#L82
08:53 <terrapin> I've don't know what m_at does, does it check swimming?
08:56 <mobileuser> I don't know, but if a monster is flying above the water (like Juiblex), you won't kill it by filling the water with a boulder.
08:56 <K2> (mtmp = m_at(rx, ry)) != 0 translates to 'there is a monster at these coordinates'
08:56 <K2> mobileuser i'm not sure, worth testing out
08:58 <bhaak> you don't need the cargo cult programming of '!= 0'
09:04 <K2> but it feels right
09:08 <dbanethacker> < > 0 perhaps (without the space between the < and >) ?
09:08 <dbanethacker> but yes, in principal I see what you mean - monsters above water wouldn't drown/die if they stayed above the water when that water was filled.
09:22 <terrapin> yeah I agree that would be logical, I'm just not seeing anything in the code that checks for flying
09:24 <K2> i'll test it real quick
09:25 <K2> hah
09:25 <K2> flying monsters get buried too if you land a hit
09:26 <K2> should check this for 3.7 also
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09:37 <mobileuser> amazing bug!
09:39 <mobileuser> also, I'm curious how Rodney will be tweaked in the next evilhack version
09:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 144 points, T:449, killed by a goblin
09:40 <K2> inquiring minds want to know!
09:41 <K2> ^ if you get this, you're old
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09:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 489 points, T:778, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying
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09:51 <dbanethacker> qq - can a Giant monk use dragon scales?  I can't wear them and I don't know of any armor I can forge using them that's wearable.  Any suggestions?
09:51 <K2> first off, as a monk you dont want to wear body armor. ever
09:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 422 points, T:648, killed by a goblin
09:51 <K2> the to-hit penalty is too great
09:52 <dbanethacker> Ok you National Enquirer reader you!
09:52 <K2> the only dragon scales a giant can use would be the chromatic dragon scales Tiamat drops
09:52 <K2> heh
09:52 <dbanethacker> or was it National Inquirer?
09:53 <K2> with an I
09:53 <dbanethacker> Alas,I have silver scales.  I guess they're worthless (to my giant monk) so best I leave them somewhere.
09:53 <dbanethacker> just weighing me down a bit.
09:54 <krm26> National *E*nquirer, *E*nquiring minds want to know, alas
09:56 <dbanethacker> Perhaps the Inquirer is the British version?  Renamed to the Mirror or another of their yellow journalism rag sheets?
10:02 <dbanethacker> another question - does a monk with kicking boots get any extra part to his attack by wearing them?
10:03 <dbanethacker> or a bonus, etc.?
10:07 <terrapin> +5 damage on their kick attack, I think
10:07 <terrapin> like any other kick
10:07 <terrapin> *+d5
10:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1533 (0:14:25)
10:10 <dbanethacker> Ok then, better to wear them than regular boots.  Thanks!
10:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:2950 (1:12:24)
10:13 <krm26> silver kicking boots to really unload on the demons
10:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3069 (1:14:08)
10:17 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ac59d217299f...c798d64f1136
10:17 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 c798d64 - Utilize shield skill to shield bash monsters the player is attacking.
10:17 <krm26> high shield skill should reduce bearded axing your shield out of your hand
10:18 <K2> high shield skill gives more AC, which means less chance for a monster to hit you, which means less chance for shield getting ripped away
10:18 <K2> but yeah
10:18 <K2> maybe being master in shield skill makes you immune to bearded axe taking it away
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10:20 <K2> that little debug pline I added was a huge help
10:20 <K2> YUGE
10:20 <K2> krm26 did you see the initial shield skill commit from last night?
10:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4176 points, T:3604, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food
10:24 <krm26> yes i did! you must have missed me complain about low priest skill :-)
10:25 <krm26> here's an idea: higher shield skill reduces shield spellcasting penalty
10:25 <krm26> and krm26 priests get expert shield skill
10:25 <krm26> and free ponies
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10:26 <K2> no :)
10:26 <K2> imo shields should prevent the casting of all wizard type spells outright
10:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3643 (0:39:02)
10:34 <krm26> that is fine k2. but NOT PRIESTS!
10:34 <K2> lol
10:35 <krm26> think of the priest as like a holy salver
10:35 <K2> your love/hate relationship with priests is epic
10:35 <krm26> uh, sorry, "priest shield"
10:36 <krm26> i don't hate priests at all! they have their properly frustrating elements like many classes
10:37 <K2> heh
10:38 <K2> i'm sure there will be some fine-tuning
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10:50 <mobileuser> silver shield will do silver damage?
10:51 <mobileuser> ooh make it so that eg a shield of cold does cold damage :-)
10:52 <hackemslashem> Yes that would be awesome
10:53 <K2> obj prop on armor is defensive only
10:53 <K2> sorry :P
10:53 <K2> and yes if you shield bash a demon or vampire with a silver shield, it'll do the extra sear damage
10:54 <K2> same for iron shields vs elves, mithril vs orcs
10:58 <mobileuser> but you are making shield an offensive weapon now
10:59 <mobileuser> oh well, hackem will have it ;-)
11:00 <K2> balance, young padawan. balance
11:28 <hackemslashem> I'll just go with what K2 has for now, I thought it would be more of a passive counterattack thing, but I see this is an active hitting thing. Interesting nonetheless!
11:31 <K2> heh
11:31 <K2> i've been wanting to do shield bashing/shield skill for a long time
11:32 <K2> finally
11:32 <K2> \o/
11:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 239 points, T:725, killed by a brown mold
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12:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 139 points, T:432, killed by a carnivorous bag
12:35 <krm26> nom nom
12:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 157 points, T:281, killed by a goblin
12:36 <Loggers_VIII> I just assumed it was a box and got killed trying to loot it
12:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 9 points, T:123, killed by a water moccasin
12:38 <K2> MSGA
12:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 1102 points, T:1871, killed by the Goblin King
12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6561 (1:45:47)
12:59 <K2> The mountain dwarf swings her axe towards your offhand!  The axe hooks onto the small shield!  You hold on tightly to your small shield.  The axe comes free.
12:59 <K2> ^ expert of better skill in shields
12:59 <K2> *or
12:59 <K2> firmly sounds better
12:59 <krm26> yeah! screw you dwarf
13:00 <krm26> "The axe hooks onto the small shield but cannot break your grip. The axe comes free."
13:00 <krm26> tightly and firmly are both fine
13:01 <K2> i've already had a player email me about the shield changes
13:01 <K2> heh
13:01 <K2> repo watcher
13:21 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c798d64f1136...9fdd7d9e4bc5
13:21 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 9fdd7d9 - Prevent shield from being taken away via dwarvish bearded axe attack if expert skill or higher in shields.
13:21 <krm26> which classes can get expert? knights? AND PRIESTS?
13:21 <krm26> of course priests
13:21 <krm26> duh
13:22 <Loggers_VIII> is there a way to keep them from snagging your weapon? same with bullwhip
13:22 <K2> no
13:22 <Loggers_VIII> yani: you can grease your weapon to keep them from holding on
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13:24 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9fdd7d9e4bc5...14f45c9cfcd8
13:24 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 14f45c9 - Wand of wishing in explore mode charges.
13:24 <K2> Loggers_VIII that actually makes sense
13:24 <Loggers_VIII> I know right :)
13:26 <krm26> k2 used to make fun of me for greasing my weapons for no reason
13:26 <krm26> oooh, speaking of grease, just found a nymph with a greased looking glass. what a weirdo
13:26 <K2> well there's still a reason to if they arent fooproof
13:27 <Loggers_VIII> true
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 1157 points, T:1, escaped
13:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 13474 points, T:10418, killed by a dwarf queen
13:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 26 points, T:87, killed by a goblin
13:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 169 points, T:184, killed by a giant rat
13:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 402 points, T:785, killed by a kitten
14:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2251 (0:25:21)
14:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1355 (0:17:01)
14:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of telepathy", on T:1371 (0:19:24)
14:16 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 fountain?
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14:17 <krm26> goblin king throne
14:17 <krm26> which i was gonna #quit after sitting in too, dammit
14:18 <krm26> i'll fnid some other way to kill this quick tho
14:19 <Loggers_VIII> heh
14:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an elf corpse on an altar, on T:3263 (0:35:01)
14:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 4803 points, T:3981, diseased by a gnome zombie, while praying
14:27 <Loggers_VIII> feck
14:27 <Loggers_VIII> good run too
14:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 69 points, T:272, killed by a goblin
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14:52 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/14f45c9cfcd8...57d4de00c5c0
14:52 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 57d4de0 - Some descriptive miss messages for thrown/fired objects at the player.
14:57 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame gutso
14:57 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gutso/evilhack/dumplog/1677003975.evil.html
14:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 688 points, T:1039, killed by a champion of The Lady
14:59 <Loggers_VIII> but we are supposed to be allies! :(
14:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a woolly mammoth, on T:4695 (1:04:23)
15:00 <krm26> man i am so inattentive
15:00 <krm26> i'm gonna go kill a priest
15:01 <krm26> hehehehe
15:01 <krm26> suck on that trunk baby
15:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril runed dagger on an altar, on T:4820 (1:06:04)
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> haha
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> now I want to be chaotic
15:02 <krm26> haha! converted the altar before they kill me
15:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 7964 points, T:4853, killed by an air elemental of Camaxtli
15:02 <krm26> that was a fun rampage
15:02 <Loggers_VIII> you got Got
15:03 <krm26> oh i got before i got got
15:04 <Loggers_VIII> you may have gotten Got but you had Gotten them first
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15:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 334 points, T:1521, diseased by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze
15:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 575 points, T:686, killed by the Goblin King
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15:14 <Loggers_VIII> pff some weapons shop is charging one million zm for sunsword
15:14 <Loggers_VIII> in your dreams buddy
15:15 <Loggers_VIII> he's only charging 72,000 for demonbane though, what a deal
15:16 <krm26> that's a nice haul, hug your pet
15:16 <K2> hmm
15:17 <K2> i've spawned about 30 rodneys in a row, with me being at exp level 30, meaning he'll be as tough as he can be
15:17 <K2> havent seen an AC lower than -17
15:17 <K2> spread has been -14 to -17
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 I think sunsword's cursed lol, pet won't grab it
15:18 <K2> oooh there's a -18
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> the rodneys I got last game were all around -21, -22
15:19 <Loggers_VIII> well, not last game
15:19 <Loggers_VIII> but you know what I mean
15:20 <K2> at around 42-43 rodneys
15:20 <K2> lowest is -19
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> hm
15:20 <K2> these complaints i keep seeing of -30 to -40 AC rodneys, i'm having a hard time believing. it could happen if both his robe and hat spawn dragonhide, but that would be super rare
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> I have never seen anything that low
15:21 <K2> -30 is a bit more believable if he's had a chance to cast protection
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> I thought -20 was around the average
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:2371 (0:11:45)
15:23 <K2> oh sweet
15:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 930 points, T:1092, killed by a bugbear
15:24 <Loggers_VIII> I have a genius plan
15:24 <Loggers_VIII> I'm about to turn my starting extra healing into full healing
15:25 <krm26> you spectated me that one game, didn't you, where i had a -40ac rodney k2? that was where i eventually gave up and fled him on the plane of water
15:25 <krm26> i was never able to probe him
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15:26 <krm26> ...that must have been almost a calendar year ago now tho
15:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2848 (0:15:46)
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15:28 <krm26> just out of curiosity, how does a tourist kill the goblin king so fast? i can do it as an infidel with the fire horn, but what the hell does a tourist do?
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15:29 <K2> darts
15:29 <hackemslashem> ^^ 
15:29 <K2> krm26 i dont remember speccing you with a -40 ac rodney
15:30 <K2> but sure its possible - dragonhide robe/hat, he could have picked up some armor along the way too
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15:32 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 about goblin king, just darts+camera. fire darts till he wields staff, blind him and get into a comfortable spot where you can fire at him and he's usually willing to trade darts with you until he dies
15:32 <Loggers_VIII> he can get a little scary sometimes but I've got it down to a bit of a science :)
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15:35 <krm26> i would have thought the tortle was too slow to get away with that
15:36 <K2> giants and tortle - spd 10. humans spd 12
15:36 <K2> its not that much of a difference
15:36 <Loggers_VIII> well I had to practice a little but I got the hang of it
15:37 <Loggers_VIII> k2 is a liar it is a massive difference he can get two turns on you instead of one
15:37 <Loggers_VIII> but he just won't approach you if you keep throwing darts he prioritizes picking them up and chucking them back
15:37 <Loggers_VIII> at least, if he's blind? that seems to be how it works
15:38 <K2> monsters can get an extra attack in one round anyways
15:38 <K2> has nothing to do with your speed
15:39 <krm26> we all know k2 doesn't perceive speed properly
15:40 <Loggers_VIII> but he can move two spaces toward you! it's terrifying
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> ooh I got goblin town
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15:41 <Loggers_VIII> maybe I can get gifted angelslayer again
15:41 <Loggers_VIII>  oh random +4 small shield :o
15:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 810 points, T:1064, killed by the Goblin King
15:45 <krm26> bells are such junk
15:45 <krm26> HAHA, whined about bells, found a second bell 10 turns later
15:46 <krm26> wands of wishing are such iunk
15:46 <Loggers_VIII> angelslayer is such a shit artifact
15:46 <mobileuser> ??
15:46 <krm26> he is practicing the whining way
15:46 <mobileuser> ah :-)
15:47 <Loggers_VIII> seriously though bells are so useless
15:47 <Loggers_VIII> that stupid saved by the bell grave gets me hoping for a lamp every time I see it
15:49 <hackemslashem> K2: Problem. Try hitting something bare-handed and not wearing a shield
15:50 <hackemslashem> uhitm.c:1788, got a bad check there
15:51 <K2> lies
15:51 <K2> :P
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15:52 <hackemslashem> The fuzzer never lies :)
15:52 <K2> i'm doing what you said
15:52 <K2> nothing bad is happening
15:53 <hackemslashem> You should get through Denial quickly, because Anger and Bargaining will take the most time
15:53 <K2> what does the fuzzer say?
15:54 <hackemslashem> It says you are dumb
15:54 <K2> ok...
15:54 <hackemslashem> ok ok  https://pastebin.com/cZ3ZnGCK
15:55 <Umbire> ?
15:56 <K2> i'm hitting a giant turtle repeatedly bare-handed as a valk, shield skill maxed so the bash will fire more often
15:56 <K2> nothing bad is happening, no crashes
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15:56 <K2> even delivered death blow with the shield
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15:58 <hackemslashem> Oh ok, I'm dumb then
15:58 <hackemslashem> No, wait, don't wield the shield, bare-handed with no shield
15:59 <K2> ok there we go
16:00 <hackemslashem> Maybe just missing a double check on obj there? 
16:00 <K2> its only happening to roles that can be skilled in shield
16:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 9540 points, T:7626, killed by a mountain dwarf
16:01 <K2> yup
16:01 <K2> needs obj &&
16:01 <Loggers_VIII> mountain nymph stole all my stuff and seemingly vanished into thin air >:(
16:01 <K2> https://termbin.com/2kki7
16:02 <hackemslashem> ok nice that is better
16:04 <K2> nice catch
16:05 <Umbire> Loggers_VIII: No way to detect monsters?
16:05 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/57d4de00c5c0...0dcc511b2e3d
16:05 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 0dcc511 - Fix: crash if attacking bare-handed and not wearing a shield if role has shield skill.
16:05 <Umbire> I know it's after the fact but I often find it means the nymph hit a trap and usually died
16:08 <krm26> or it read your cursed scroll of teleportation :-)
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> I object detected, another nymph that stole some other stuff of mine had died but the other one had vanished
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> I even checked below and found a third nymph that had stolen some of my stuff, but killed her and didn't get anything valuable back
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> my money's on cursed scroll of tele
16:12 <krm26> also coulda hit a trap door
16:12 <mobileuser> or cursed gain level
16:12 <mobileuser> or a levelport trap
16:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2167 (0:29:44)
16:15 <Umbire> lot of possibilities
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16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 4898 points, T:3264, killed by a water moccasin
16:27 <krm26> so much for that magic lamp
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17:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5418 (1:05:44)
17:07 <krm26> this grayswandir on the floor wants to kill me
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17:17 <K2> touch it
17:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1635 (0:28:22)
17:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:6313 (1:21:30)
17:22 <terrapin> wow aligned priests are not morning people
17:22 <terrapin> just tried to wake one up to stop my pseudodragon from killing them and they flipped out
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17:23 <K2> ugh
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17:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:6961 (1:31:05)
17:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had a spellbook of teleport away given to him by Thoth, on T:7502 (1:39:49)
17:46 <Umbire> did you like, scare them awake with a horn?
17:46 <Umbire> if they're scared then I think they attack you if you chat
17:47 <terrapin> I chatted them awake
17:47 <terrapin> the wiki warns you about it but I didn't check beforehand
17:48 <Umbire> oh yeah unfortunate
17:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1026 (0:06:09)
17:57 <terrapin> huh tortle shamans don't give telepathy
17:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 4190 points, T:2271, killed by a dwarf queen
18:05 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0dcc511b2e3d...1d3b7ea15949
18:05 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 1d3b7ea - Tortle shamans are telepathic and will grant telepathy intrinsic if eaten.
18:06 <K2> good catch terrapin
18:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:6887 (1:25:19)
18:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4377 (0:18:04)
18:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] microlance (Bar Trt Fem Neu), 6788 points, T:7712, diseased by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze
19:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 11057 points, T:6987, killed by a wolf
19:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 50 points, T:75, killed by a kobold
19:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 731 points, T:1181, killed by an enormous rat
19:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 73 points, T:113, killed by a water moccasin
19:47 <aosdict> K2: I assume the shield bash commit is the one the "sets the stage for another idea very soon" refers to?
19:48 <aosdict> also I assumed this commit implemented manual shieldbashing, you should allow anyone wearing a shield to apply it in a direction to do a shield bash
19:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 842 points, T:1352, killed by a giant ant
20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 483 points, T:996, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a monster's gaze
20:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1088 (0:10:05)
20:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1631 points, T:1175, quit
20:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1178 points, T:1371, killed by a rothe
20:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 901 points, T:1532, killed by a bugbear
20:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 49 points, T:48, killed by a newt
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20:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:377 (0:02:35)
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21:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5026 (0:37:32)
21:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5202 (0:40:37)
21:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5445 (0:43:15)
21:22 <K2> aosdict: 1) yes 2) i thought about that, but I settled on the current implementation
21:22 <K2> its a quasi(?) method of dual wielding, even for a couple roles that wouldnt have that otherwise
21:23 <K2> if you made it so the player could opt to shield bash manually, they'd be giving up a primary attack to do it
21:26 <K2> to want to do that, it'd really have to be worth it
21:27 <K2> maybe something like...
21:27 <K2> manual shield bash, guaranteed stun target for x turns, but the manual shield bash would have to be on a cooldown timer, you couldnt use it whenever you wanted
21:28 <K2> stun or paralyze
21:28 <K2> this is sounding like a slash'em technique
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22:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:15125 (3:44:47)
22:15 <terrapin> ooh my bag had a gem in it
22:15 <K2> nice
22:15 <K2> know what kind?
22:16 <terrapin> no
22:16 <terrapin> could be glass
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22:33 <Umbire> Random bags generate with random items in them sometimes
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22:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) had a large shield entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:1561 (0:08:19)
22:42 <terrapin> neat
22:43 <Loggers_X> +5 :)
22:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2764 (0:13:48)
22:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3136 (0:16:54)
22:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Tou Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo", on T:4111 (0:23:44)
23:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to him by Thoth, on T:17623 (4:38:44)
23:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:18891 (4:59:17)
23:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:18892 (4:59:38)
23:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had a spellbook of lightning given to him by Thoth, on T:20156 (5:25:15)
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23:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] leafG (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 0 points, T:2, killed by a system shock
23:57 <terrapin> !lastgame leafG
23:57 <Hecubus> terrapin: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/l/leafG/evilhack/dumplog/1677214604.evil.html
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