00:00 They died on Oracle too 00:30 I think I have luck blade in my game (from bones) 00:30 time to at least TRY to play 00:31 oh yeah i remember what I was doing. I just got a +3 coppe broadswoard of exellence 00:32 i want dragonbane 00:32 smoky is hallucination and a i have a handuful.. maybe bless and go for it 00:32 i've already gotten denied wishing for it once (have already wish for etoa so it is 50/50 each time i try) 00:33 i'm no more likely to get it simply because i already failed once... (it's still 50/50) 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:25227 00:35 oh yeah i still have to wish for that dumb alhoon hat 00:39 i'm so psyched my xl 21 giant monk can cast polymoprh 00:39 (at 98% fail so don't go changing things j1) 00:39 staff of matter would be pretty killer tho 00:54 sheesh 00:55 Got a warg with a saddle AND barding 01:34 damn i just took a dip in deep water 01:35 if ONLY someone had added paranoid options like all the baby games 01:35 at least it wasn't lava 01:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Pri Hum Mal Law), 19736 points, T:14824, killed by an elven lady, while sleeping 01:36 wait, what's that you say umbire? EVILHACK has paranoid lava??!? 01:36 ...? 01:41 explain to me why this situation exists if the game is going to say " You just stumbled into the lava? Are you sure you want to go into the lava and burn everything yes/NO"' ? https://imgur.com/a/XLpwcHx 01:41 it makes it a pretty sokoban i guess 01:41 but lava and water become nothing more than decoration 01:42 i've fallen in that lava in soko 01:42 Okay but why tag me about this? 01:42 i'm pretty sure somone put it there hoping that would happen 01:42 lol because you're the only one here talkiong to be 01:42 to me 01:42 sorry 01:42 i'm trying to drag you into it 01:43 i've fallen in it more than once 01:44 I'd rather not, thanks 01:44 i guess i'm actually GOING to turn the damn paranoid options to full or whatever since i imagine everyone else uses them and no one agrees 01:45 I actually don't? 01:45 well i just fell in the water 01:46 i do it all the time 01:46 There's a difference between "something's a nice option" and whether or not you use it 01:46 i think it's bullshit that other people can play sloppy and never fall in 01:46 so i may as well figure out how to turn it on like it is in xnh etc. 01:46 I'm not relitigating this. 01:47 there aren't pools of water in vanilla etc in the mines 01:47 are you sure you want to make the mistake you made ? (yes/no?) 01:48 i'll take it 01:48 that's why i greased my bag 01:48 of holding 01:48 lava you can live in for a few turns i thin if you have fire reisstance 01:49 are you sure you want to step into the lava and burn all your stuff and die because you don't have fire resistance! (yes/no) 01:51 not fair to to the countless others who didn't get a pass over the years... is there paranoid water in vanilla 3.7? I can only imagine 02:01 -!- spicyCebolla has left #evilhack 02:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:18 i tried to to bait you umby... just joking around 02:18 i dunno if you got my !tell.. but i was beyond impressed with the elf. they are super har 02:18 d 02:18 imo 02:19 i only really play monk, but that's the last role i would ever choose for "fun" 02:19 race* 02:19 i suck at evil these days. haven't ascended in a long time 02:20 i'm not like some of these people who never die. I die eraly. i die mid game, i die late. 02:22 i just used to play a lot. i suck just as much as most so don't listen to me to begin with lol 02:23 it's super fun though 02:23 * rebatela thanks k2 02:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Rog Gno Fem Neu), 794 points, T:1865, zombified by a kobold zombie 02:35 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 03:14 It's funny, in evil, I often play illithid wizard. (Badly),, but in vanilla... Always monk. 03:16 -!- amateurhour has joined #evilhack 03:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 734 points, T:2805, killed by a rothe 03:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Cav Hum Fem Law), 885 points, T:1758, poisoned by a giant mosquito 03:40 arahael: 03:40 Play 03:40 monk 03:40 in 03:40 iveil 03:40 aaaand of course i typo the last word 03:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:46 rebatela: Haha. I have a few times, actually. My best games have all been Centaur Monk. But... The lack of AC is painful. 03:59 yeah ... there are ways of getting protection if you are patient/put in the work, but yeah monks et completeyl screwed if you get orctown...then you just HOPE there's a real temple in the dungeon 04:00 vanilla is like that... i'd actullaly wager that evil is in that respect (getting bonus AC as monk) 04:00 meant to say in ways evil is EASIER 04:06 How is it easier to get AC in evil? 04:07 Monks can wear armour if they're grand-master and you have max luck. 04:07 (In vanilla) 04:07 yeah forget about armor 04:07 i'm trying to figure out wat i meant... i had a point 04:08 oh oi know 04:08 someimtes there are no temples in dungeon 04:09 so you donate to minetown 04:09 hoping for another temple 04:09 ice queen 04:09 and you don't have to fight her to use the temple... 04:10 just get to the temple. lock the doors. usually my pets kill the priest. all that's fine, but you just dont EVER want kathryn seeing you hitting a peacerul after youve pacified her 04:12 so you donate to icer queen priest/ kill/ take cold and go to molochs 04:12 you probably wont get shit... but when there are several temples in teh dungeon... 04:13 also they always have spellbooks and usually a robe (goof for polypiling) 04:14 also... just sacrificiing and praying at an altar you can get protection 04:15 I guess i was thinking more about giant monk (because i happen to be playing one) 04:15 they nee all the dvivine protection possible, so i do all that shit 04:16 it's hard to get AC as giant (esp monk whre you aren't weraing armor and shields..) 04:17 or shirts and cloaks like all the other giants... 04:17 but if youre not monk it's not so bad 04:18 rebatela: Ah, yeah, but then, in vanilla, you can just get down to the valley. 04:19 what do you mean?: 04:19 dfv? 04:19 i haven't ascended in a while... need to change this 04:20 i'm well aware that i suck... but i gotta get one here and there 04:23 I mean, there's a guaranteed priest in the valley just below the castle. 04:23 And it's in ghenno where the AC really matters. 04:26 i disagree 04:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1683 points, T:3100, killed by a piranha 04:27 being able to buy 9+ points or not becuse it's orctown makes it much harer for a monk 04:27 than another role thatill will wish for dSM with therir firstr wish 04:28 rebatela: Maybe compared to other roles, but in Vanilla, I'm *always* monk. 04:29 (Near enough, anyway) 04:29 by the time you get to the valley priest, you've seen the whole dungeon and now have a wishing wand. yeah i donate to him and then kill him and take the gold back, but you get 1o ro 2 points maybe 04:30 rebatela: I usually go for all the protection points I can easily get at that point. 04:30 that first d4 of divine protection you get (from prayer or more likely from donating) is more valuable to the guy who can't wear armor... 04:31 i know but if you can wish for dragonscale early on and hit wearing it, thats a huge boost and the god stuff doesn't matter so much... 04:32 Yeah, just I somehow find it's fine in Vanilla. But then again, I _do_ pretty often loose the game before then. I've ascended, though. More than once. (Perhaps 2-3 times?) But in Evil... I *need* that AC. 04:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32 Those demon princes hit hard. 04:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:33 i'm talking about vanilla too... orctown sucks for a monk in vanilla esp. if there isn't another temple in the dungeon 04:34 what is + 5 dsm ? that's gotta be -9 right there... monks can't get that 04:34 so for roles who can wear armor/wish for dsm or whatever protection isn't so imporant 04:35 Yeah I think I agree with your point when you've put it that way. 04:35 Just I feel it's _way worse_ in evil. 04:35 The monsters hit harder. 04:35 with giants (back to talking about evil) it's worse because no shirt... no cloak... 04:35 The monks I've done in evil are centaurs. No boots. 04:35 oh man 04:36 try giant 04:36 I can't play giant monk without crying about the robe. :( 04:36 hehe 04:36 Just... Can't... 04:36 at least you don't have to worry about losing it to a polyrap... 04:37 Eh, I can cry for a short time when that happens - then I go find myself a new robe. 04:37 Kaen often has one. And the valley priest has one. And... Actually robes are almost plentiful in Evil, by comparison. 04:37 Plus I could just wish up a dragonhide one. 04:38 yeah... evil has spoiled you 04:38 not a lot of extra robes in vanilla... 04:38 kill a priest or hope kaen isn't dressing up for the day and is wearing his 04:39 or an off chance in a shop i guess 04:39 Yep. But still, even so, Robes are replaceable, just rare, in vanilla. 04:39 and again if the oly temple is in minetown and coaligned... you don't exactly want to kill that priest because you lost your robe to polytrap 04:40 So I only have to cry until it's replaced, unlike giant where I'd be crying for the whole game. 04:40 lol 04:40 the trick is getting those stafffs ( as a giant monk) 04:41 and a HoB 04:41 that you switch out 04:41 i cast poly etc. 04:41 You've mentioned those staffs, I didn't really appreciate them until then. 04:41 i haven't been finding them lately 04:41 but if you do altar work, they are frequent gifts 04:43 I've noticed that. 05:02 -!- cbus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 05:11 rebatela: Werid. I was responding "Test failed: Error on line 1". 05:11 rebatela: I think your client is hiding errors. 05:11 yeah it sucks 05:11 it's def on my end 05:11 i just see arahael 05:12 or stella 05:12 no text 05:12 Curious. I had +R on, just turned it off, but I don't think it made a difference - was wondering if your client was somehow mis-interpreting the +R. 05:12 What client? 05:12 arahael: anyway, i was gonna say something sappy to you i'll share with the whole group if that's ok ? 05:12 Depends on how sappy it is! 05:13 (But yeah, go for it) 05:13 thanks for talking to me 05:13 Not a problem! 05:13 means a lot sometimes.... and we are on opposite sides of the planet and sometimes it's jus us and i wanted to say thank you 05:14 Heh, no worries - but yeah, I think the world could do better to be nicer in general with chats in general. We've let "toxic masculinity" run for too long. 05:14 For both genders. 05:15 (For all genders!) 05:15 oh i came out to #hardfought the other day ! 05:15 That's... A hard place. 05:15 but you were probably sleeping becaue australia and all that 05:15 Yeah. And I've been flat out with VR, too, and learning two languages. 05:18 well no.... i am dangerously into women and think the vast majority of men are disgusting... but yeah whatever... 05:18 humans are beautiful 05:19 have a good night everyone 05:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:19 Take care. :) But yeah, the majority of men are pretty crap. 05:19 Missed by that much! 05:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1010 points, T:3401, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46 [hdf-us] [evil] joes (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 875 points, T:2096, killed by a baby owlbear, while praying 05:52 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3441 06:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1173 points, T:5142, killed by a giant mosquito, while dressing up 06:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:28159 17:42 oof, checked just in time that healing is smoky before I dipped them 18:02 magic lamp rubbing just before bedtime... 18:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:3914 18:04 phew :-) 18:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 7274 points, T:6712, killed by a piranha 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) destroyed coplate's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5734 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 4086 points, T:5945, killed by an enormous rat 19:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:52 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #evilhack 20:16 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 21:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:29056 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:31141 21:55 \o/ 21:57 Niceu 22:09 remembered to wield a long sword too 22:09 got excalibur out of it 22:11 Nice 22:11 don't die 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Dramborleg", on T:32068 22:31 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:32093 23:20 alhoon and the dark one are fighting over my brains :( 23:20 my kingdom for a can of grease! 23:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Umbire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 10252 points, T:8182, zombified by an orc zombie, while sleeping 23:24 Completely unnecessary risks 23:24 Whatever 23:25 does the dark one get the MR from EotA by carrying it? I thought MR was only when worn. 23:25 oh, I guess he could be wearing it, nm 23:29 I think he also generates with an MR cloak? 23:29 @e? dark one 23:29 Dark One (h) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 claw amulet steal, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 23:31 Pino doesn't mention starting inventories 23:39 @e? alhoon 23:39 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confers: fire cold | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -6 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Alignment: -15 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravisible 23:40 crud. I'm trapped above lvl 15 by an alhoon and I can't defeat the dark one at my level. 23:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!]